Shin

Nobody is ever gonna be ready if nobody speaks up first.

According to Lao Gulu, If you realize what you are more deeply, you could do that with him.

Did you walk outside a lot that day ? I had zero side effect on my side.

Yeah no, the more research I do, the worst it gets lol.

The worst you can have is a group of women laughing and giggling because they find you attractive, maybe one of them asking if she can have your number for one of her shy friend, and that's pretty rare, and that's not really, you know, annoying. You can't compare this to constant harass of lustful people seeing you as a live sextoy, with the possibility of one of them (or a group) to snatch you and rape you in some secluded place.

Who would tell you that ? I see two kinds of people: The assholes from whom you could protect yourself of Insecure men that you start dating In both case why would you care ?

@Etherial Cat Learn Jiu Jitsu and kick their asses

I would feel so unsafe if I was a good looking girl. Like seriously, how do you even walk in the streets alone without wanting to punch some of those guys ?

It's not creepy, what would be creepy is trying to hide it (which you can't do anyway). You're too biased on some level about this, I see zero problem with being friend with beautiful women, unless you're a slave to your dick and/or naive and a "nice guy". Also stop assuming what aaalex or any other people in here means, you do that quite often.

Funnily enough, this is counter productive. You'd rather not hide your attraction at all, and still be friends. I member a girl in college, ok we weren't friends in the end, just a girl I saw quite often in class, but still, she knew very well I found her hot, I didn't hide it at all, but I could see how I could have been friend with her without expecting her to date me at some point. Firstly because objectively speaking, I understood she was a high quality girl (too high for me at the moment), secondly because well I don't know, I don't need her or any other girl to be happy, I can just enjoy her femininity without needing to fuck her, we had great and fun conversations, and I appreciated her for that. I guess most guys are too emotionally insecure and immature to be able to think and feel like that, but it's totally possible to be friend with the opposite sex without expecting anything, but yeah, there is attraction that you can't deny (and shouldn't, it just make it awkward) and it's just stupid or very cutely innocent to expect otherwise I mean I'm friend with other girls not so extremely beautiful and amazing, and It's not a problem, especially when they already have someone (standard a bit too high now I guess ). Even if you're an asshole fuck or a nice guy, you'd rather be friends with girls you are attracted to than trying to get them if you feel they aren't attracted, because well, they have friends, you know that's like most relationship starts ... Now I guess that's a catch 22, if you're too emotionally immature to stop being entitled to women you're attracted to, you probably aren't thinking that you can gain anything long term by just being a genuinely good friend, you're in scarcity mod and need to fuck NOW, and that's so sad

"I don't care anymore"

If you've read Mastery, then you should know that deliberate practice is not an option.

If this is normal cringe, I NEED MORE !

So fucking needy

Not for me, but I was just thinking that guys who have huge problems to be sensitive to women would most likely not understand any of those sentences you wrote that's all One hardcore incel and one hardcore and horny pick up "artist", does that happen often (like on a weekly or even daily basis) ?

If you're attractive, there is no way a guy wouldn't want to fuck with you, so that's not really an option. What you can do though, is to be more selective and learn which kind of guys are more susceptible to just be friend with you for your ass, rather than because you're a potential good friend. I mean, if a guy is really a friend, and he really cares about you as a person, he wouldn't try to date you as soon as you break up or even a few weeks after, no matter how attracted (or in love) to you he is. I don't think you should stop being nice to people just because of those rare situations, but yeah, depending on where you live, smiling at a stranger in the street can be associated very fast with giving a signal that you're attracted. In those situations maybe just also learn by using stereotypes which kind of guys are more susceptible to be overly pushy and asses (not simple I suppose, I have no idea how you can do that tbh ). Thank you for sharing, and I'm happy that you're feeling liberated towards this as of now

Yeah but that's the "Life Purpose, Career, Entrepreneurship" part of the forum though.

So basically, I'm Leo too ? Just because I'm white and bald ?

I just don't think that the people who needs to understand her comment, will understand a post that abstract and conceptual. Only guys who already understand what she's complaining about would be able to decipher that comment imo.

This isn't a sprint, it's a marathon my dude. Don't be interested in having results, just be genuinely interested in knowing what's true. If you aren't right now, that's fine just do something else with your life, there is lots of stuff to embody in life, not just enlightenment.

That's a lot of work, thank you @FlyingLotus

Give a concrete real life experience please ?

Good idea, bad idea ? Useful, not useful ? Needed, not needed ? Explain your perspective below please

What about a forum section like the one I talked about in this thread ? Obviously we can't open a section of the forum just for women or mostly for them, but we can make room for more awareness of what women goes through in the relationship's section of the forum. So those two things are separated in my mind.