Prabhaker

Every child is born clever. No child is ever born idiotic. Great effort has to be made before you can become stupid. But society starts to cripple the child because society cannot allow that much intelligence. That much intelligence is dangerous. A Buddha or a Lao Tzu or a Jesus are people who somehow escaped from society, who somehow managed it that society did not change them into stupid people. We are destroying life of every children , result is this insane state of humanity. We can't see what crimes we are doing, unless we awake from our sleep. Who knows those monks are enlightened ?

Why bring children and animals in between , who talked about them ?

It seems, but it is not. We can't decide what is good and what is bad in our unconsciousness. People who crucified Jesus, poisoned Socrates, burnt Joan of arc, were custodians of morality, contemporary people never thought that they are doing something bad. What an enlightened person do is beyond our understanding. Our morality is a social politics , so that we can adjust in society. A person kills somebody is a murderer , if he kills thousands in a war with enemy country, he is a Hero. In our unconsciousness , we can't know what is sin , and what is virtue.

@Prabhaker LISTENING,' shravan', is one of the easiest and most spontaneous methods of meditation. Osho explains this phenomenon: “Shravan means right listening…and this is a rare achievement. Right listening means not just fragmentary listening…I am saying something, you are listening to it…Your ears are being used; but you may not be present there. If you are not present there in your totality, then it cannot be right listening…” “Right listening means you have become just your ears – your whole being is listening. No thinking inside, no thoughts, no thought process, only listening. Try it sometimes; it is a deep meditation in itself. Some birds are singing. Just become listening, forget everything – just be the ears. The wind is passing through the trees, the leaves are rustling; just become the ears, forget everything – no thought process, just listen. Become the ears. Then it is right listening, then your whole being is absorbed into it, then you are totally present.”

Learn the Art of Listening Osho said that “I don't speak to teach something; I speak to create something. These are not lectures; these are simply a device for you to become silent, because if you are told to become silent without making any effort you will find great difficulty.” " My words keep you awake, and just between the words I give you gaps. And those are the real, essential things. Waiting for another word, you have to listen to silence.

Satsang = being in the company of the truth , by sitting together with a guru or a group of spiritual students.

@Loreena If you take alcohol, it is consumed in the body but effects your mind. If you are a loving person , you will become beautiful. Whatever happens in the body is echoed in the mind, and whatever happens in the mind has its effects on the body. If the mind is sick the body will not remain healthy for long, and if the body is sick then the mind will not be healthy for long. The message is passed between the two and has an effect on both. That's why people who learn how to keep the mind healthy automatically understand how to keep the body healthy. They don't have to work on it, they don't have to make any effort. If the body has had a good rest your behavior will change accordingly. That's why food and rest have always been taken in relation to each other. Your diet should be related to your lifestyle. If there is purity in both, then you can have immense movement in your life, and it will be easier for you to enter the inner world. The same way that you need to understand how to exercise, some understanding is also needed about how to rest. In order to rest you need to know how to relax your body. In this century there is no place for exercise and rest. We are in a strange situation: we don't exercise and we also don't rest. What you call resting is not resting at all. You are lying down, tossing and turning - this is not rest. Rest is a long, deep sleep in which the whole body is sleeping, all its activities have slowed down and all the stress that it has been under is released. Have you ever considered that when you get up in the morning and you are not feeling refreshed and healthy it affects your behavior?

@Loreena Your body is a psychosomatic phenomenon. Mind is the subtlest part of the body, and body is the grossest part of the mind. If you change one, other will change. Grow into a meditator , your body will become proportionate , beautiful. If you practice yoga to make your body proportionate , your mind will become meditative. It takes time , because the change is very deep.

You can see , where the most intelligent people live ! Percentage population living on less than $2 per day

As a politician he became the greatest politician, because the poor people thought "This is the man who is our real representative, because he lives like a poor man in a cottage, he drinks goats' milk, he travels in third class." But they don't know the background -- that to maintain his poverty was very costly. India country has a majority of Hindus. To influence these Hindus, he used a totally new kind of strategy, and that was to live like a poor man. His clothes, his house, his food -- everything will give you an appearance of a very poor man. But if you look into everything minutely, with an impartial eye, you will be surprised that everything is more costly than even the richest man living in a palace -- that will be cheaper. But he succeeded in deceiving people.

Most of the religions stop at self realization, they don't talk about full enlightenment. Translation of Bhagavad Gita 7.3 Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection, and of those who have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth.

They were exceptions, they were tremendously intelligent , that's why we know them. A poor person can be tremendously intelligent, but it is very rare.

I know about Gandhi very well , he was son of a rich person. Gandhi was a well educated person and a successful lawyer. An Indian leader Sarojini Naidu—joked once “To keep Mahatma Gandhi poor, we have to destroy treasures. His poverty is very costly."

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I mentioned that 'It is more likely that if a person is smart , handsome and rich - he is intelligent' , you interpenetrated that ' a rich person is intelligent' , try to understand the difference.

What you have said can be a consolation for many, but without intelligence you can't be successful in any dimension of life.

Financial richness is also a quality, those who deny are deceiving themselves.

An intelligent person is caring and understanding, he can't be otherwise. Rich and happy person is more likely to be caring and understanding. A miserable person spreads misery.

@Loreena A beggar can be a Buddha, but it is very rare. A rich man can be a retard, but it is also very rare. If a person wants to earn money and still he can't earn, it shows that he is not intelligent. It is more likely that if a person is smart , handsome and rich - he is intelligent. If you have option, choose a rich person.

Osho was a dangerous man. His teachings are for the people who are ready to risk their lives for search of truth. Osho said: There are certain basic necessities which should be fulfilled; there is a hierarchy. First your bodily needs should be fulfilled; then your psychological needs should be fulfilled. Only then for the first time you become hungry for spiritual experiences. And this is the hierarchy: bodily needs first, then psychological needs second, and only then spiritual needs. What I can give to you concerns your hunger for spiritual growth. If it is not there, I cannot create it. If it is there, I can show you the path. Only a rich being can have some connection with me. A certain sensitivity is absolutely needed, a certain vision is needed. A poor man is one whose mind is retarded – he may have immense wealth; that does not matter – who cannot understand classical music, who cannot understand poetry, who cannot understand philosophy, who cannot understand the high flights of human spirit. Yes, one of the dimensions of poverty is a man who cannot even produce money. He is the poorest of the poor, because money is such a mundane thing. If you cannot create it, you simply show that you don’t have intelligence enough. I can attract only those people who are very talented, immensely intelligent, very rich in some quality of life. Only from that angle of richness will they have a connection with me.

I am in very good shape. I eat less , only two times a day. Most of the Indians don't know about calories, vitamins, nutritional value etc but some them are very tough and active.

Diogenes was a Greek philosopher and one of the founders of Cynic philosophy. Diogenes made a virtue of poverty. He begged for a living and often slept in a large ceramic jar in the marketplace. Alexander The Great, the King of Macedonia, conqueror of the Persian empire and the greatest military genius of all time, admired Diogenes and asked him if he may do anything for him, to which Diogenes replied, “Only step out of my sunlight.” He became known as the only person to make fun of Alexander the Great and actually live. He used to live naked; he was a very healthy and beautiful man. Even Alexander the Great felt a little jealous. He had everything, but the beauty of Diogenes, his marble-like body, his statue-like firmness….

Buddha was a beggar on the street ! It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. The beggar on £50,000 a year... not to mention living in a £300,000 flat at taxpayers' expense. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2341956/The-beggar-50-000-year--mention-living-300-000-flat-taxpayers-expense-pretending-hungry-homeless-wonder-middle-class-parents-mortified.html India’s Richest Beggars Will Make You Feel Really Bad About Yourself. https://www.scoopwhoop.com/humor/rich-beggars/#.422rbq014

Do you think people on this forum will accept him as an enlightened person , when they know about some violent and some naughty acts of Krishna ?

What do you think about Krishna ? In India , we have not accepted any other incarnation except Krishna’s as whole and complete, and it is not without reason. Krishna is choiceless, he is total, he is integrated, and therefore he is whole and complete. Every religion has divided life into two parts, and while they accept one part they deny the other, Krishna alone accepts the whole of life. It is for this reason that he is glorified as the 'Purnavatar'—the complete incarnation of God.