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All of the above ! I was wrong. Renouncing the world, escaping to the forest and the mountains, you are simply escaping from a learning situation. In a cave in the Himalayas you won't have any responsibility, but remember, without responsibility you cannot grow; your consciousness will remain stuck. For growth it needs to face, to encounter, to accept the challenges of responsibilities. The true seeker cannot renounce the world and the society, but he certainly renounces many other things. He renounces the so-called morality imposed upon him by the society; he renounces the so-called values imposed by the society; he renounces the knowledge given by the society. He does not renounce the society as such. The true seeker is renouncing the past. He is not going to repeat the past; he is bringing something new into the world. Those who have escaped from the world and society are escapists. Renounce the past, not the world.

Sigmund Freud has said somewhere that man is born neurotic. This is a half-truth. Man is not bornneurotic, but he is born in a neurotic humanity and the society. Man as such is neurotic. It is not that just a few men are neurotic, but humanity is neurotic. Perfectionism is a neurosis. It is an illness. And the more you try to become perfect, the more frustrated you will become. Become an ordinary person. The only miracle, the impossible miracle, is to be just a simple normal person.

A person with very low consciousness can't even realize that he is undeveloped individual.

Only at the highest peak, when love is not a relationship any more, when love becomes a state of your being. The real thing is not a relationship but a state; one is not in love but one is love.

Seeking is needed, but then comes a point when seeking has to be dropped. The boat is needed to cross the river but then comes a moment when you have to get out of the boat and forget all about it and leave it behind. Effort is needed, without effort nothing is possible. And also only with effort, nothing is possible. Advanced meditator drop all techniques of meditation, he lives meditatively, he can sit silently, doing nothing. He can paint, he can play music, he can chop wood. When we walk , we use legs, While sitting there is no need to use the legs. While not talking there is no need to use words. Do not verbalize within. While not using the past there is no need to allow it to flood you. Dying to the past means becoming master of your mind, now you are an advanced meditator.

Life is a dream so enjoy it; but do not ask for more because then you only disturb the dream and get nothing except a disturbed night. Be a witness to the dreaming mind and then there is transcendence: then you go beyond dreaming and beyond mind itself.

Act out all your madnesses through Osho dynamic meditation http://www.oshodynamic.com/index.html http://www.oshonisarga.com/?page=dynamicmeditation Reduce the time and intensity of different stages if required.

Female energy (now, don't read 'woman') has created the path of love and devotion. Even a divine lover will do – there is no need to find a physical lover. Krishna will do for Meera, there is no problem, because for Meera the other exists. He may not be there, Krishna may just be a myth, but for Meera he is, the other exists – and then Meera is happy. She can dance, she can sing, and she is nourished. The very idea, the very notion, the very feeling, that the other exists and there is love, and a woman feels fulfilled. She is happy, alive. Only with this love will she come to a point when the lover and the beloved become one. Then meditation will happen. For female energy, meditation happens only in the deepest merger of love. Then she can be alone, then there is no problem – now she can never be alone – the beloved has become merged, now it is within. Meera or Radha or Teresa, they all achieved through a lover – Krishna, Jesus. One of the Jaina (Jain sect in India) tirthankaras (omniscient Teaching God) was a woman by the name of Mallibai. The Swetamber sect of Jainism calls her Mallibai while the Digamber sect of Jainism calls her Mallinath; they take her to be a man. Jainism path is such that any woman who goes through it is bound to become a man. His path is not of devotion but of knowledge, and so it is completely aggressive. His path is not one of receptivity. In Bengal, in India, there is a small sect which believes that only Krishna is male and everybody else is female.They sleep with a statue of Krishna in their bed. If any man begins to sing and dance like Meera for years on end, sleeping with the image of Krishna on his chest and considering himself his beloved, he will remain a man in name only. His consciousness will undergo a complete transformation. Mystics say that after crossing the fourth plane (mental body) the meditator is neither a male nor a female. After fifth or spiritual body , there is no difference, there is nothing like male and female there. So, when you become enlightened, in that moment you are no more man or woman. In that moment you transcend all duality.

If there was no suffering, you would never search for the truth. It is suffering that goes on impelling you to go beyond it. It is anguish and agony that finally compels you to seek and search for the path that goes beyond suffering and agony, to find a way that reaches to blissfulness and to eternal joy. Pain, suffering, old age, death, all these are creating the situation for you to search for truth. Otherwise you would fall asleep; otherwise you would be so comfortable, you would become a vegetable. There would be no need, suffering creates the need for a search. You would like to live a life where there is no suffering, but that life is not possible if you continuously carry the ego with you.

It depends, it depends on the individual. There cannot be any dogmatic statement about it because each individual is so unique. When Basho becomes enlightened he starts singing poetry, poems; Buddha has never done that. When Krishna becomes enlightened he starts dancing, singing; Mahavir has never done that. When Mahavir becomes enlightened he keeps silence for many years, remains absolutely silent, not a ripple is allowed; Meera has not done that. When she becomes enlightened, she dances from village to village, she sings the glory of God. It is very difficult to make a dogmatic statement. Enlightenment is always new, fresh - it is not an imitation, it is not a carbon-copy; it is always original. An enlightened person, if allowed to enter into you, will give you self-evident proofs. But those are not intellectual proofs; they are not arguments of mind. He argues with his whole being. His argument is that of his presence - so allow his presence and don't carry any criterion. If you are a Jain you will miss Buddha; if you are a Jain you will miss Krishna; if you are a Jain you will miss Christ. If you are a Christian you will miss Mahavir. You will carry an idea, a fixed pattern. Don't ask that he should be 'like this'; just be with him. Just sit with him in silence. be open to him. If he has become enlightened, suddenly you will see a throb within you that you have never known before: your energy will start rising. You will see a great silence arising in you, and a great bliss, drop by drop, reaching your innermost core of being. Just be in his presence. If he has arrived, you will feel a sudden pull in your being -- you are being pulled towards some unknown center. And you will feel tremendous beauty, bliss. blessings showering on you. That will be the only criterion; but for that you have to be ready.

Repetitive behaviors are soothing or pacifying and help us deal with stress, it more like a tranquilizer rather than a meditation technique. Unless you are aware of rocking action, your thoughts, your emotions, it can't become a meditation technique. You don't love "sitting still" silently with awareness. It will be better if you begin with something active in the beginning, as I mentioned in my earlier post.

When men and women are 98% same, how they could be targeted differently ? There is a distinction between gender and polarity. Gender is a biological identity. Polarity is a term used in Tantra to refer to the style in which we open (open to life, open to existence, open to God). There are two different polar ways to open: The masculine style of opening (in a man or in a woman) is when we open through silence, meditation, aloneness, asceticism, facing death and through discipline. The feminine style of opening (in a man or in a woman) is when we open through energy, movement, connection, love, touch, the senses, merging into life, pleasure and through surrender. This is NOT saying all men open only through discipline nor that all women open only through surrender. Tantra understand that we all have a masculine and a feminine aspect and that these open and develop in different ways. It is not about an external set of societal behaviours, nor about gender or sexual identity. The masculine aspect is the part within us that is pure witness consciousness, never changing, eternal, known as "Shiva". The feminine aspect is all of the rest...life as it manifests in ever-changing unfolding energy. The body, the emotions, the mind, our life events...all is referred to as the feminine or "Shakti". Now many, though certainly not all, women resonate with the feminine principle. As female bodies have wombs that birth children and breasts that nourish life, they have a natural resonance with life and creation. Many women open through dance, music and feeling energy in their bodies. These same women may not open so much through fasting and isolation and silent sitting meditation.

I am triggered, you have hurt me really bad. You have ruined all my reputation on the form, which I earned in several weeks. I can't reply you because I can't cope with your infinite intelligence, you are a real ego destroyer and I can't bear more kicking. enjoy !

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It is not conditioning, I have lived in a state of no-mind many times, I know it's taste, it's bliss. Now I have fallen back , so I want to live in peace again.

What conditioning? I am tired of my mind, I want peace.

Facing boredom is meditation. Why people have invented alcohol, drugs. They are ways to escape from boredom. But you cannot really escape; you can only avoid for a while. Again and again the boredom will be coming, and again and again it will be more and more loud. You can escape in sex, in eating too much, in music - in a thousand and one kinds of things you can escape. But again and again the boredom will arise. It is not something that can be avoided; it is part of human growth. It has to be faced. The other response is to face it, to meditate on it, to be with it, to be it. That's what Buddha was doing under the Bodhi Tree - that's what all Zen people have been doing down the ages.

I am totally frustrated with my mind as it is. I can't hope that I can gain something through my mind. When I say total hopelessness, I mean that hope has failed and hopelessness also has become futile. I don't want enlightenment , if it happens, I am not going to create hindrance. I want to rest in peace.

You are the problem; Cabin in woods will not be of any help. It is not London that disturbs you or Paris or New York; it is You! And it is not that London has created you: you have created London. It is not the traffic and the noise and the mad rush: you have created this -- you and others like you. Look! The cause is within you. It is not that you are tense because of noise. The noise is there because you are tense, and you cannot live without it. That is why it is there. You need it, you cannot live without it. And in villages people are suffering. They want to come to Paris or to New York or to London. So don't think that because of the modern life you are so much in anxiety. It is because of you, not because of modern life, and you will be in anxiety anywhere, in any type of civilization. Go to a village for a few days -- two or three days -- and you will feel good for a while because even diseases need readjustment. But within three days you will be adjusted to the village, and then anxieties will start coming, disturbances will be felt again. Now the causes will not be the same, but you are the same. Life has always been so, modern or primitive. Tensions are there, anxieties are there. Objects change, but man remains the same. Two thousand years back you were driving a bullock cart; now you are driving a car -- but the driver remains the same. The bullock cart has changed -- things are different now, you are driving a car -- but the driver remains the same. He was anxious about his cart, tense about his cart; now you are tense and anxious about your car. Objects change, but the mind remains the same. Always try first to find the cause within you. How can the artificial light disturb you? How? If you are against it, it will disturb. If you have the attitude that it disturbs, it will disturb. But if you accept it, if you allow it to happen without any reaction, then you may even start enjoying it.

Kundalini can also awaken spontaneously, for no obvious reason or triggered by intense personal experiences such as accidents, near death experiences, emotional trauma, extreme mental stress, and so on. Madness happens many times, but if you know the technique, then meditation can happen. It always happens on the verge; that is why mystics have always used the term "the sword's edge." Either madness may happen or meditation may happen, and every method uses your body as a sword's edge from which either one or the other is possible.So be concerned with meditation and not with kundalini. And when you are aware, things will begin to happen in you.

When depressed, be depressed. Simply be depressed. Don′t get depressed about your depression. When depressed, simply be depressed. Don′t fight it, don′t create any diversion, don′t force it to go. Just allow it to happen; it will go by itself. Life is a flux; nothing remains the same. You are not needed; the river moves by itself, you don′t have to push it. If you are trying to push it, you are simply foolish. The river flows by itself. Allow it to flow. When depression is there, allow it to be. Don′t get depressed about it. If you want to remove it sooner, you will get depressed. If you fight it, you will create a secondary depression that is dangerous. If you get depressed, be happy that you are depressed and allow the depression to be. Then suddenly the depression will disappear and there will be a breakthrough. No clouds will be there and the sky will be clear. For a single moment, heaven opens for you. If you are not depressed about your depression you can contact, you can commune, you can enter this heavenly gate. And once you know it, you have learned one of the ultimate laws of life: that life uses the opposite as a teacher, as a back-ground.

If you begin with sitting, you will feel disturbed inside. The more you try to just sit, the more disturbance will be felt. You will become aware of only your insane mind and nothing else, it will create depression. You will feel frustrated, not blissful, you will begin to feel that you are insane. Sometimes you may really go insane. If you make a sincere effort to ‘just sit’ you may go insane. You may not be ready to be aware of all the insanity inside you. You must be allowed to get to know certain things gradually. Knowledge is not always good. It must unfold itself slowly as your capacity to absorb it grows. Begin with your insanity, not with a sitting posture. Allow your insanity. If you dance madly, the opposite happens within you. With a mad dance, you begin to be aware of a silent point within you; with sitting silently you begin to be aware of your madness. The opposite is always the point of awareness. If you begin with something active, positive, alive, moving, you will begin to feel an inner stillness growing. The more it grows the more it will be possible for you to use a sitting or lying posture.

This kind of forced celibacy is very difficult, it needs a different kind of lifestyle, food and many other things. I can't advise it to a person living normal life in the society.

Meditation brings a kind of celibacy, but not vice versa. A celibacy without meditation is nothing but sexual repression. And your mind will become more and more sexual, so whenever you sit to meditate your mind will become full of fantasies, sexual fantasies. celibacy cannot be taught. Only meditation can be taught. celibacy is the result. As meditation ripens, celibacy comes to fruit by itself. All effort is to be put into meditation. One who puts his effort directly into celibacy will sit suppressing sex in the name of celibacy. And celibacy is not happening – it is only superficial – within the being the worms of desire are crawling. Celibacy should be brought very slowly. All that brings you again and again to sexuality has to be dropped slowly, in steps. And once you start enjoying the energy that becomes available, when you are not obsessed with sex, just that pure energy becomes a dance in you — that is called enriching. Now, your energy is not wasted. Sex is the absence of meditation. When you live meditatively, sex is gone.

There is much difference between awareness and witnessing. Witnessing is still an act; you are doing it, the ego is there. So the phenomenon of witnessing is divided between the subject and the object. Witnessing is a relationship between subject and object. Awareness is absolutely devoid of any subjectivity or objectivity. There is no one who is witnessing in awareness; there is no one who is being witnessed. Awareness is a total act, integrated; the subject and the object are not related in it; they are dissolved. So awareness doesn’t mean that anyone is aware, nor does it mean that anything is being attended to. Awareness is total – total subjectivity and total objectivity as a single phenomenon – while in witnessing a duality exists between subject and object. Awareness is non-doing; witnessing implies a doer. But through witnessing awareness is possible, because witnessing means that it is a conscious act; it is an act, but conscious. You can do something and be unconscious – our ordinary activity is unconscious activity – but if you become conscious in it, it becomes witnessing. So from ordinary unconscious activity to awareness there is a gap that can be filled by witnessing. Witnessing is a technique, a method toward awareness. It is not awareness, but, as compared to ordinary activity, unconscious activity, it is a higher step. Something has changed: activity has become conscious; unconsciousness has been replaced by consciousness. But something more still has to be changed. That is, the activity has to be replaced by inactivity. That will be the second step. It is difficult to jump from ordinary, unconscious action into awareness. It is possible but arduous, so a step in between is helpful. If one begins by witnessing conscious activity, then the jump becomes easier – the jump into awareness without any conscious object, without any conscious subject, without any conscious activity at all. This doesn’t mean that awareness isn’t consciousness; it is pure consciousness, but no one is conscious about it. There is still a difference between consciousness and awareness. Consciousness is a quality of your mind, but it is not your total mind. Your mind can be both conscious and unconscious, but when you transcend your mind, there is no unconsciousness and no corresponding consciousness. There is awareness. You are awareness. You live on the circumference, hence you are not able to see your own center.