ChrisZoZo

Stumbled across this way to determine if someone is enlightened/(authentic in what they preach) or not, I would like to share. What you do is go on to a podcast or long interview with them, and watch their face as other people are talking. It’s remarkable some people who I have already think is highly probable to be a fraud. It almost a closes the case as a certainty to me. I watch their face go through a lot of emotions, peace seems to be quite distance. There really seems to be an act that they’re trying to put up, but they’re unable to do because their mind is focusing on monkey mind activities while also focusing on the person talking. So the act becomes very difficult to do and this becomes obvious in my opinion. Some people I found are extremely good at putting up a fake act. I find it more effective to go on a video where there’s three people talking. With every way to determine if someone is lightened, of course this will not absolutely determine if someone is a enlightened, or not. Maybe it is because is partially to do with the fact that it is not absolute truth that someone is enlightened. As absolute truth does not embody a relative term like this it’s simply logically impossible I guess.

From what I’ve heard you can imagine this in spirit if so have fun

Because you’ve already won. You won before you won now and you won later. The most perfect, the most loving and the most amazing thing you’ve created for yourself. @Javfly33 I hope you can join a taste this. Enjoying the infinite number of beings infinitely winning forever. Also reminds me of what’s happened to Leo in the past he keeps having awakenings where they feel like the top total awakening. He won in life and there and there is no greater thing to do. yet somehow out of the infinite will of God, he wins again, and reaches the end again, and bathes in the unimaginable, glory, and joy of that. Somehow greater than before yet still the end, still the ultimate winner.

@sleep how does the hate makes you feel. Throughout your body. You have this hate and if you can really get a feel for it, it can be a great way to do a practice and stick with it even when it gets difficult because you know at the end of the tunnel you will love yourself.

Very true, there’s no need for someone who is true to try to convey himself in anyway. Rather just the light comes through naturally, while clear, simplistic words are spoken. 🙏

Which one is more exciting in your opinion. Go with the more exciting one.

@Razard86 although thank you for pointing out the fact that not everybody is going to be able to use this tool. It’s a strange consequence that the more developed becomes spiritually, the more developed to become in your capabilities to determine who is a Master or not. For example, been able to see “the light” in people Eckhart, describes this in his book. I don’t remember the exact quote, but it’s something like “light can only recognise light.” When someone is able to see the light in someone, it’s almost as like a greater verification that you can get from any logical thing that your mind can possibly come up with.

I just do not agree in this at all. Really really moojiji and really really watch someone who’s established to be a scam artist. You can see so many emotions it’s amazing. this is one thing someone much further on the path said that you would be able to read someone very easily the more you develop. And I’ve noticed that as I’ve made my spiritual gains improved also.

@Yimpa that may be the case, although I do want to still preference this, because some people say they are other say they’re at a certain level and it can be hard to know if you can take their word and listen to them. You can waste a lot of time listening to them when they’re really just frauds, even if they don’t say they’re enlightened. You can even apply this to people who you think are likely to be enlightened, and then listen to the more. If you feel like they act better in situations where they almost have difficulty to keep up the act if they were to keep up an act.

Or maybe even no matter how deep you reach you’ll still want to get further and further in to the ultimate destination and it keeps getting better and better with every realisation becoming more more amazing with even the one prior, seeming to be the most amazing the most fundamental but yet there is greater.

What actually happens when you die is if you’ve not managed to realise the ultimate destination, then you will repeat life over and over again in different ways until you realise the ultimate destination, and then you are there forever. @Someone here let’s be honest what I said you have no way of determining if it’s more correct than what Leo said. Then wouldn’t you take it up on yourself to just realise the ultimate destination while you know you can be alive. If not, at least if you go all out on that you can live such an amazing life that it will not even matter that much because you’ll be drowning in the love of God. Or should I say the love of the ultimate destination.

@Osaid define enlightenment

I feel like I have a good idea, but I would like to hear other peoples perspectives.

“If you don’t have truth, what do you have, nothing” I believe, is the most important (non-spiritual) quote that could be taken on his own and used tremendously. This is so good, because probably one of the worst things about the human race is that we are close minded to good ideas. but yeah also simultaneously, we’re not open to the fact that we are incorrect about our ideas. but this quote single-handedly put it in a manner in which it is great to be open to new ideas. While also being open to your current ones being wrong. It’s amazing that I can see people get wound up in ideas that are wrong and people that can get wound up in thinking and are simply not open to the best way out of their troubles. Yet if they just understood this concept which is really simple, it could literally save decades of torture.

Chris is a good name. But for real good question, ponder that

I would recommend for the average man to just take his teaching and see how well it works for you but that requires a high amount of trust you really can’t half ass his teachings.

@Tech36363 seems legit. If we were to actually test if he was real we would need to set up a test. I recon the best test apart from him straight up predicting the future would be. Asking him a question that would take one minute to state and one minute for the answer. The question would be the most difficult that one could think. I thought of a few like “explain the process of protein folding as an expert under a minute” or “explain the chaneraekhar limit and all the variables with in it”. These are actually very easy questions think of the hardest you can possibly ask that you know can be worked out. From that we can set ask him and if he answers in a manner which is truely in human. We can find work with the fact he is telling the truth. Also we can be still steptickal even is he seems in-human.

The three questions! Race of super intelligent, aliens come to earth and as their form is so far from anything we can comprehend they take the form of humans. They say that they do not want to affect our planet in any way. Except for giving us knowledge so therefore they cannot prove their technological, intellectual and magical abilities in any manner at all, except in their ability to come up with answers to questions. Which can only be given in a verbal form via a human and no other way. Amazingly, it seems that every single question that is asked to them, they can come up with an answer within 5 seconds of thinking and not one time, do they take longer than that. A group of highly sceptical scientists/mathematicians decide to come up with a test to see if they are actual aliens or a fraud. They consider the fact that the humans before them could be using any sort of tricks with any modern technology or some what advanced technology to come up with these answers. As there’s a lot of people desperate to ask these aliens questions they are restricted to only ask three questions. Plus the question has to be verbally said under one minute. Also the answer must be able to be verbally, said under one minute. Plus you know yourself that the answer can be said under one minute. The questions don’t have to be straight mathematical questions like what is 0.37262^3746^0.22^pi. To the first 100 digits. But can be in the form of: “If a 1 km wide sphere is orbiting a black hole which has a mass of 14 solar masses and is orbiting at a speed which is 1% slower than required to have an orbit. What will be the amount of rotations it does around the black hole plus the amount of radial distance travelled in the last rotation. Until one part of it touches the event Horizon. If it’s orbiting from a distance of Pluto. Also, assuming the object cannot be ripped apart, but can be warped naturally by space time.“ What are the three questions they come up with. If you want to go a step further come up with a question in every category. Biology. Economics.Quantum mechanics. Four dimensional shapes. And other categories. Put your favourite question you want as any category you want it doesn’t matter just remember the situation and what is best in the situation.

What’s the best Bashar’s videos. Please post some free ones, but if there’s some behind a paywall that you are very highly recommend, then please do.

Please speak your mind on it Not sure how that could be a conspiracy theory also, as there’s no conspiring against anyone. Sort of like believing planes can fly and calling that a conspiracy cause 9/11.

Although if you’re interested in him, and are unsure where to start look up his content on following your excitement.

Here is one of the best I have found.

Hey Leo, do souls exist and if they don’t exist how do you know?

@Max1993 I am certainly not ready also.

There is definitely a chance that the gaslighting could convert to distrust and even hatred. I would not think if gaslighting was good or bad just try to operative from the highest state of love u can towards your child and then perhaps the appropriate gaslighting will come.