ChrisZoZo

What is the best definition of being enlightened you have come across?

@RMQualtrough I am a bit confused on it. Are you stating a quote that you would say after rebirth from death? (in the second image) If not then both the second and third are just the third.

Mooji advocates diversity in spirituality

You can speak when your dead!

You're missing the point. Clearly you do exist. It would be better worded as "a you is not necessary for existence". You can remove yourself (the subjective experience of being an observer) from the equation but existence carries on anyway. This is because you (the observer) and reality (the observed) are one thing and not two separate things. I have talked to people who follow Buddhism and state you don't exist. May be more to their point but I felt they believed in the fact that they didn't exist.

Also assumption. Well said the assuming of distinctions is a common trap. 'Not existence' and 'existence' are the same. The distinction less state is king! I guess that one way to elaborate on your point if you agree? @Nahm

Sounds interesting care to elaborate more?

@WokeBloke

@Matthew85 Would you say following someone online is what you need or being with them in persons.

There are many method's psychedelics with a good spiritual exercise is a fast approach. Yea why not? Do you want to directly experience you self creating reality? Yes, you will feel both, Ramana Maharshi said something along the lines of "I am a swinging door, I swing from the person and the world, back to the absolute" this swing won't last any time in this world so. It not like you randomly fall asleep for a few hours.

@CuriousityIsKeyYou can know something absolutely if it's on saliva, 5-MEo-dmt or on oxygen. After absolute truth is met there is just a broadening of understanding you can't get more true than it.

@CuriousityIsKey Experience is king so get to work experiencing.

Nirvana is state of consciousness where you don't identify with you person (person being your idea of your self). A great answer would probably be 1000 pages long. I could say life is god loving himself so much that he allows all aspects of him self to live and he love so much that he will feel the pain and torment in all of it. All aspects are explored we happen to be homo sapien point of perception.

@CuriousityIsKey Regarding what nirvana?

You are missing direct experience, that's what you need, things become much more clear after that. Sorry not sure I can guide your mind out of the maze you are in. Short cut to direct experience psychedelic's obviously but sometimes even the shortcut can't get you there so it helps to do mediation, yoga, self enquiry all that good stuff. Also Mooji is great in my opinion.

@PurpleTree sorry I didn't understand the context my bad

@Thestarguitarist14 You won't benefit from hating here. Please if it's a genuinely raciest form make YouTube video's on it with clear proof because you just seem like your acting mad right now.

Link examples please I have no commitments to this form.

Let me what did you learn? Classic cult thinking.

@Dean Walker Leo quoted Shinzen Young on his strong determination sitting as "the fastest way to enlightenment" is the mediation on steroids video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cub6kY0oHZc

Any tips on how to do the spiral dynamics part?

I remember now it was actually partly said in leo's detox video

@cle103 Final backup (for me) is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJQvt4AkMB8 you need to do Moojiji's invitation first though (https://youtu.be/G5_sbzSXs0E). This will allow the truth to blast right through the pain sadness and depression.

@cle103 My guess is an ego backlash but there is much more to look in to. Also say thank you for all this, Say thank you for the pain and the depression. Love it because there is no reason to hate it. If you can’t love it. Love the fact that you can't love it.