Spiral

I would not get in bed with her too early. Not for her sake but for your own.

A conversation is only as fun as you make it.

No, girls often value youth regardless of age.

Probably living the good life. Without a bunch of forum escapism.

Cold showers to stay healthy and warm during the winter months. Not really the advice you want tho

A heard a “hot witch girlfriend” is the rolls royce of a girlfriend. I want the best, so suppose that’s what I want. On a serious note. A friend I enjoy sex and cuddles with. Bonus points if she really likes what she does for a living.

You could say they are already inside. I didn’t know they care.

@Vzdoh Fear isn’t reasonable! Besides if you don’t fear the lion before it attacks you. It’s too late to be afraid. So to me it seems like a high risk low reward sort of thing. Which isn’t a great investment. That being said I’ll still do it. Was in a relationship a few of months ago. It’s easier with a girl you know very well and trust to act sympathetically and honestly towards you and others.

Confidence and nothing better to do. It doesn’t happen often but it’s always been attractive girls in my experience. Girl can be rather creepy about it tho when they want to but don’t have balls to do so.

My resistance to committed relationships has nothing to do with girls I’ve dated or that want to have a lot of girls sexually. If I have my needs meet I’m happy. My issue comes from what I see in my family, friends and colleagues relationships. Their relationship to me seem terrible and toxic. With the expectation of my grandparents I don’t know anyone who’s relationship I’d describe as even decent. Now don’t get me wrong I don’t mean it’s the girl/wife that’s terrible. Some times it is, sometimes it’s the guy in the relationship. Sometimes there both great but just not a good match. Yet they all stay together anyway. With kids, marriage, a shared economy and the laziness that come from having a partner I get it. I don’t want that to be me. That is what I fear and associate with commitment, because it means that I’m serious. In addition I don’t care for commitment, I’m not the jealous type so I don’t feel like it has intrinsic value.

@Random witch Alright fair enough. That’s fairly common criticism of men. Can’t speak for other cultures however where I’m it’s considered rather unappealing to associate with people who have sexist and/or racist views. A lot of western cultures are way behind tho in this regard.

Besides perhaps vulnerably and nurturing are those really feminine traits in your society? Not saying their masculine either of course.

Holding hands and kissing her(rather then teasingly not do so) seems more romantic than sexual. I do like other tips tho.

I do prefer paying every other time and girl the does the same. So we don’t have to split the bill, it’s considered rude to the waiter where I’m from. But I would absolutely not pay for a girl in the “I pay because I’m the guy” sort of way.

This thread seems toxic. Perhaps banning the “gender x is terrible and y is wonderful” sort of topics could be a beneficial approach.

Facial hair seems to be a big factor also.

The whole struggle of which gender is more terrible and oppressive seems to me to only be escalating. Making the life’s of everyone involved worse. Victim mentally runs rampant on both sides. In more metamodern(aka strange yellow) circles I’ve seen that this isn’t really a problem. How do we move past this here on the forum and have a positive effect in society as a whole? P.S No gender complaints please!

Morally its better to get out so she doesn’t get needlessly hurt if someone wants something more. Although I’m an ass so I wouldn’t have done so either

Sorry to hear that. I this is actually a common and tricky unintuitive issue that’s a bit outside what can be communicated on a forum. Listened to great podcast about I couple of weeks back featuring post-feminists. Unfortunately it’s in Swedish.

Vagueness like “not looking for anything serious” is less of a turn off. However a lot of girls just want some dick as well. People hurt themselves or others when they sleep around. Harm reduction is mostly kind bonus. Don’t get me wrong, sleep around but don’t assume that there is a way to it completely harmlessly.

Great more options, heard guys know their way around dicks a little bit better too.

I find this stuff creepy af when it happens. Power outage is annoying also.

Can be a surprisingly big rush even with strangers

Glad I can offer some extra joy to your life On a serious note, I'm sorry you perceived me as antagonistic/toxic, that was not my intention.

Although we are going thru a paradigm shift so it’s bound to be messy, bloody and terrible. Harm reduction is something we should try to aim for.