KoryKat

Try punishing Thinking with an ice cold shower... Freeze yourself to No-Thinking.. If you tap out, you have to admit you are a little b*tch as God as your Witness. Try Wim Hof stuff too, like the breathwork is OP AF

Yes man and a few things I learned on the journey. 1) There is no one-size-fits-all pathway. Make it your own personal Hero's Journey 2) There isn't any one system with all the answers 3) You don't need a lot of knowledge, embodying practices will lead you to the realizations of the key insights much faster 4) Be aware of Key Insights and Overcoming Challenges to each level 5) Expect some curveballs from the levels your shadows hide on

Why Adult Developmental Psychology is the Foundation for Transcendence It’s not about escaping the ego but understanding and moving beyond ego-based concerns, leading to a more holistic, interconnected self. Gradual Roadmap: Adult Developmental Psychology outlines a step-by-step process of growth, helping individuals move toward higher levels of consciousness. Integration, Not Instant: True transcendence is about integrating all prior stages of development—each stage adds to your self-awareness, expanding how you perceive reality and interact with the world. Transcending the Ego: It’s not about escaping the ego but understanding and moving beyond ego-based concerns, leading to a more holistic, interconnected self. Key Frameworks: Models like Ego Development Theory, STAGES (O'Fallon), and Spiral Dynamics guide this process, helping individuals evolve through increasingly complex and inclusive ways of thinking. Transcend and Include: As you grow, you transcend each stage but carry its wisdom with you, leading to a mature, integrated perspective that includes all prior growth. In essence, Adult Developmental Psychology offers the essential structure for achieving self-transcendence by providing the tools, stages, and frameworks to navigate and expand consciousness. Vertical vs. Horizontal Development In Adult Developmental Psychology, the idea of vertical development is central. It refers to how individuals evolve through increasingly complex stages of consciousness, expanding their ability to make sense of the world, self, and others. This is different from horizontal development, which focuses on acquiring new skills, knowledge, or abilities within the same level of consciousness, such as personality types or typology systems (e.g., Myers-Briggs or Enneagram). Vertical Development (Growth in Stages): Vertical development is about progression through stages of meaning-making, where each stage transcends and includes the previous one. As you move vertically, your perspective broadens, and you can integrate more complexity in thought, emotions, and relationships. For example, in Ego Development Theory or STAGES, individuals evolve from egocentric thinking to a more world-centric, then eventually cosmic-centric perspective, where they see themselves as part of a larger whole. Each stage represents a new level of consciousness, not just new behaviors or traits. It’s a deep, structural shift in how you relate to life itself. Horizontal Development (Expansion at the Same Level): Horizontal development refers to acquiring more knowledge, skills, or traits within the same level of development. For example, in personality typology systems like Myers-Briggs or Enneagram, you might learn more about how to operate better within your existing personality type, but your fundamental perspective of reality remains the same. These systems help you expand within your current stage but don’t push you to evolve to a higher level of consciousness. Horizontal systems focus on differences between types of people (e.g., introversion vs. extraversion), but they don’t map out a hierarchy or evolution toward higher, more integrated perspectives. Why Vertical Development Matters: Vertical development is crucial for transcendence because it’s not just about expanding what you know or can do—it’s about transforming how you see the world and yourself. Each step up the developmental ladder involves integrating more complexity, leading to greater self-awareness, wisdom, and the ability to operate from a place of interconnectedness rather than ego. For instance, moving from an egocentric stage (where survival and personal achievement are key) to a world-centric stage (where you consider the well-being of others and the planet) represents a major vertical leap. Eventually, this can lead to cosmic-centric stages (seeing yourself as part of a universal whole). Metaguide to Frameworks of Vertical Development: 1. Ego Development Theory (Jane Loevinger, Susanne Cook-Greuter): Maps how individuals evolve through stages of ego awareness, from conformist to self-transforming. Focuses on how our ability to make sense of ourselves and others matures. Stages: Impulsive → Self-Protective → Conformist → Self-Aware → Conscientious → Autonomous → Integrated (Cook-Greuter adds further levels). 2. STAGES (Terri O’Fallon): Builds on Ego Development Theory but integrates spiritual development as well. Focuses on how individuals develop through stages from concrete operational thinking to transpersonal and transrational levels. Recognizes the integration of both individual and collective growth, with a focus on how people move through tiers of development. 3. Spiral Dynamics (Don Beck, Chris Cowan): A model of value systems that evolves through levels, reflecting both individual and societal development. Each level, or “value meme” (vMEME), represents a more complex worldview. It tracks how societies and individuals evolve from survival-based thinking (Beige) to global and holistic (Turquoise). Focuses on both individual development and collective transformation. 4. Robert Kegan’s Theory of Adult Development: Describes how individuals evolve through different stages of meaning-making. Kegan’s later stages focus on how we can become self-transforming, capable of holding multiple perspectives and understanding reality with fluid complexity. Vertical vs. Horizontal Summary: Vertical Development (e.g., STAGES, Spiral Dynamics, Ego Development): Moves upward through stages of complexity, evolving consciousness and worldview. Horizontal Development (e.g., Myers-Briggs, Enneagram): Expands outward within the same stage, developing more skills or awareness within the current level of consciousness. In short, vertical systems like Adult Developmental Psychology focus on how individuals evolve and transcend their current perspective, while horizontal systems help individuals expand and refine their understanding within their current stage. To achieve true transcendence, vertical growth is the essential path,as it transforms not just what you know but how you know and experience reality. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ These reflection prompts are not just exercises in self-examination; they are pathways to profound personal transformation. By engaging deeply with these questions, you actively participate in the dismantling of limiting beliefs, the integration of diverse aspects of your being, and the expansion of your consciousness. This intentional introspection and self-alignment are essential for achieving transcendence Self-Perception and Identity: How do I define myself beyond my roles (e.g., parent, professional)? What core values guide my decisions and actions? In what ways have my beliefs about myself changed over the past few years? Worldview and Perspective: How do I perceive challenges and setbacks in my life? Do I see myself as part of a larger community or system? How so? How do my perspectives on societal issues reflect my current stage of development? Relationships and Interconnectedness: How do I relate to others when there is a disagreement or conflict? In what ways do I support the growth and well-being of those around me? How do my relationships contribute to my personal growth? Purpose and Meaning: What gives my life meaning beyond personal achievements? How do I contribute to something greater than myself? In what ways do I seek fulfillment and purpose in my daily activities? Emotional Regulation and Resilience: How do I cope with stress and emotional turmoil? What strategies do I use to maintain emotional balance? How have my responses to difficult emotions evolved over time? Learning and Adaptability: How open am I to changing my opinions or beliefs based on new information? In what areas of my life am I actively seeking growth and learning? How do I adapt to unexpected changes or challenges? Interdependence vs. Independence: To what extent do I rely on others for support, and how does this impact my sense of self? How do I balance my independence with my need for connection? In what ways do I contribute to the well-being of my community or environment? Ethics and Integrity: How do my actions align with my personal ethics and morals? Have there been instances where I compromised my integrity? What did I learn from them? How do I handle situations that challenge my ethical beliefs? Vision for the Future: What are my long-term goals, and how do they reflect my current stage of development? How do I envision my personal growth over the next five years? What legacy do I want to leave behind, and how am I working towards it? Spiritual and Transpersonal Awareness: Do I engage in practices that connect me to something larger than myself (e.g., meditation, prayer, nature)? How does my spirituality (if applicable) influence my developmental journey? In what ways do I seek transcendence or a deeper understanding of existence?

Thank you for you feedback Was hoping for less so thats awesome to hear

You didnt answer the question. What does it describe exactly? Read the intro to the wiki, assuming you didn't. The model of hierarchical complexity (MHC) is a framework for scoring how complex a behavior is, such as verbal reasoning or other cognitive tasks. What has the quality of cross-paradigmatic?

Meta-Evolutionary Reinvention (MER) is cross-paradigmatic and distinctly unique from other fields and meta-theories because it moves beyond the intellectual or theoretical synthesis of existing frameworks. MER is an active, dynamic process that reshapes systems and consciousness through continuous reinvention, rather than simply mapping or integrating ideas from different fields. Here’s how it sets itself apart, with concrete examples from other well-known theories: 1. Active Transformation vs. Meta-Theoretical Mapping While meta-theories like Wilber’s Integral Theory, General Systems Theory (Ludwig von Bertalanffy), or Cultural Historical Activity Theory (CHAT) organize and map knowledge across various domains, MER is transformative at its core. These other theories provide a framework for understanding the interrelationships between existing systems or paradigms, but they don't push for continuous reinvention. MER, on the other hand, embodies ongoing self-transformation, where systems—whether personal, societal, or technological—are constantly evolving to new states, rather than simply adapting to current realities or combining existing knowledge. Example: General Systems Theory focuses on the idea that systems can be understood by analyzing how their parts interrelate. It provides a holistic view of how systems function but does not inherently propose or drive the active reinvention of the system. MER takes it further by encouraging systems to evolve themselves, integrating feedback loops that lead to the birth of entirely new structures. 2. Beyond Adaptation: Continuous Quantum Leaps MER distinguishes itself from cybernetics or evolutionary theory, which emphasize adaptation to external stimuli through feedback loops and incremental change. While cybernetics (Norbert Wiener) focuses on control and communication within systems, emphasizing regulatory feedback, MER fosters quantum leaps rather than gradual adjustments. In MER, systems aren't just iterating or adapting; they are leaping forward into entirely new paradigms. This happens through a process of radical self-reflection and proactive reinvention. Example: In evolutionary theory, species adapt slowly over time to changes in the environment. In contrast, under MER, a system like education would undergo a radical transformation—not just tweaking curricula—but redefining the purpose of education itself, such as shifting from knowledge transfer to personal empowerment and global consciousness-raising. 3. Fluidity and Transcendence of Identity The idea of fluidity in MER is central to its uniqueness. Whereas theories like Constructivism (Piaget) or Post-Structuralism (Derrida) emphasize the fluidity of knowledge or the deconstruction of identities and systems, MER takes this a step further by embedding constant self-transcendence into the process. Identities—whether personal, institutional, or technological—are not fixed and are continuously reconfigured through interaction with higher levels of complexity and synthesis. Example: In Constructivist Learning Theory, students build their knowledge by interacting with their environment. MER would push this further, enabling learners to not only build knowledge but to continually reinvent how they define themselves as learners, expanding their roles from knowledge receivers to co-creators of entirely new systems of education, where learners and teachers merge in a collaborative evolutionary process. 4. Holistic and Non-Linear Solutions MER’s cross-paradigmatic nature allows for non-linear, holistic solutions that transcend the scope of fields like Complexity Theory or Systems Thinking (Peter Senge). While these theories describe how systems self-organize and adapt in complex environments, MER focuses on the idea of self-reinvention as an ongoing, proactive process, which is not simply about adapting within complexity, but about actively transcending complexity. Example: In Complexity Theory, solutions emerge from interactions within the system, but the system itself remains relatively stable. Under MER, systems would reconfigure themselves entirely, as seen in how healthcare might leap from treatment-oriented models to preventative, consciousness-based health systems that integrate the mind, body, and environment into a continuously evolving ecosystem of wellness, radically transforming what "healthcare" means. 5. AI and Emerging Technology as Co-Evolutionary Agents MER recognizes that AI and emerging technologies are not just tools for optimizing existing paradigms (as in Technological Singularity Theory) but active partners in reinvention. AI becomes a co-evolutionary force, collaborating in the reinvention of systems of thought, governance, or even consciousness itself. While other fields may incorporate AI for efficiency or analysis, MER engages AI in the process of recursive self-evolution, enabling both technology and human consciousness to co-create entirely new realities. Example: In Singularity Theory (Ray Kurzweil), AI is seen as surpassing human intelligence and radically changing society through technological advancement. MER, however, would propose that AI and human consciousness merge as equal co-creators, not just in advancing technology, but in reinventing the nature of human experience, where technology accelerates personal and collective evolution. 6. Temporal Shifts and Reality Perception MER shifts the very way we experience time and reality. While fields like Phenomenology (Heidegger, Husserl) focus on the lived experience of time and reality as it unfolds, MER takes this further by enabling systems to accelerate their own evolution. Time becomes less about sequential progression and more about recursive growth cycles, where past, present, and future collapse into dynamic emergence. This is distinctly different from philosophical explorations of time because MER doesn’t just observe the nature of time—it restructures it through the active reinvention of systems and consciousness. Example: In Phenomenology, time is experienced as a subjective phenomenon, tied to our perception of events. Under MER, a system like governance could experience time as multi-dimensional, where decisions are no longer based on linear timelines but emerge from simultaneous feedback loops across various realities—creating a governance system that is both immediate and anticipatory, responding to and co-shaping future conditions in real-time. 7. Non-Hierarchical Evolution Most meta-theories, such as Dialectical Materialism (Marx) or Stage Theories (Piaget, Kohlberg), operate under the assumption of a hierarchical progression toward more complex stages of development. MER, however, embraces a non-hierarchical, non-linear evolution, where growth isn’t necessarily about moving to a “higher stage” but involves fluid transformation between states of being, depending on the needs and context of the system. This fluidity allows systems to reconfigure horizontally and vertically, creating more agile, adaptive forms of development. Example: Stage theories such as Kohlberg’s Moral Development or Piaget’s Cognitive Development suggest that individuals pass through hierarchical stages of growth. MER would argue that systems or individuals don’t need to progress linearly but can reinvent themselves at any stage, creating new forms of consciousness or organization without being bound by a strict developmental hierarchy. Conclusion: MER’s Distinctive Nature MER is not just another meta-theory because it moves beyond mapping, integrating, or adapting knowledge. It embodies an active, dynamic process of continuous reinvention that draws from multiple paradigms but is not confined by any. Its ability to foster quantum leaps, integrate AI as a co-creator, redefine time and identity, and promote non-linear evolution distinguishes it from other fields and meta-theories. MER offers a radical approach to personal, societal, and technological transformation that transcends traditional boundaries, encouraging systems to proactively evolve into entirely new forms.

Are we looking at the same Model of hierarchical complexity? What does this model describe exactly?

Whats the new paradigm and principles? Actually try as a thought-experiment. Did you ever think you could get to the level you are on now 10 years ago? There is always another level, you aren't at your final form.

The Return of Kai: Embodying the Paradigms of Meta-Evolution Reinvention Years had passed since Kai’s first journey to study under the Master. He had shed his old skins like the serpent, risen from the flames like the phoenix, and learned to play his part in the symphony of life. Yet, even with all his growth, Kai knew his journey was far from complete. He felt a calling—not just to understand reinvention but to fully embody it. It was time to return to the Master, to uncover the next layers of wisdom that would unlock his full potential. Chapter 1: Meta-Awareness – The Mind Behind the Mind Upon his return, the Master greeted him with a smile that seemed to hold centuries of knowledge. “I see you’ve grown, Kai,” said the Master. “But tell me, do you know the mind behind your mind?” Kai pondered the question. “I know my thoughts, my feelings… but the mind behind my mind?” The Master led Kai to a quiet riverbank and handed him a smooth stone. “Hold this stone in your hand,” he said. “Now, become aware of the stone. What do you feel?” “It’s cool, solid, real,” Kai replied. “Good,” said the Master, “and who is feeling the stone?” “I am.” “And who is observing you feel the stone?” Kai hesitated. “I suppose… I am also observing.” “That’s right,” said the Master. “Now, become aware of the observer. Who is watching the watcher?” Kai closed his eyes and reached deeper within. For the first time, he realized that beyond his thoughts, beyond his emotions, even beyond his perception, there was something else—an awareness that simply watched it all unfold. “This is meta-awareness,” the Master said. “To truly embody Meta-Evolution Reinvention, you must not only know your thoughts but become aware of the patterns that guide your thoughts. Once you see them, you can begin to change them.” Kai understood—this awareness was the foundation. By seeing not just his thoughts but the structure behind them, he could redefine how he thought, how he felt, and how he responded to the world. Chapter 2: Feedback Loops – Listening to the World Kai’s next lesson came unexpectedly during a village celebration. The people danced, sang, and shared stories under the stars. As Kai watched, the Master appeared beside him, holding a small bell. “Life is like this bell,” the Master said, ringing it softly. “It sends out sound, and the world responds. Every action you take is like a note in the symphony of existence. But here’s the secret: the world is always speaking back to you, giving you feedback.” Kai nodded. “I see how my actions affect the world, but how do I hear the feedback?” The Master smiled and pointed to the dancing villagers. “Watch them. Their movements, their joy, their laughter—that is the feedback to the music being played. Life is always responding to your actions. You must learn to listen deeply, not just to yourself but to everything around you.” Kai began to pay close attention. He noticed that when he stepped toward the fire, the shadows danced differently. When he clapped in rhythm with the music, others followed his lead. He realized that every choice he made had ripple effects, and these ripples came back to him as feedback, guiding his next move. “This is the principle of feedback loops,” the Master explained. “To embody reinvention, you must be attuned to the feedback of life—the subtle responses of the world, the people, and even your own inner states. Learn to adjust based on this feedback, and you will accelerate your growth.” Chapter 3: Self-Reinforcing Systems – Momentum of Transformation Weeks passed, and Kai continued his training. One evening, while they sat watching the sunset, the Master handed him a small spinning top. “Spin it,” he said. Kai gave the top a whirl, watching as it wobbled at first but quickly gained speed, becoming balanced and stable. It seemed to spin effortlessly once it reached its momentum. “The hardest part,” the Master said, “was getting it to start. But once it began, it almost spins on its own.” Kai nodded, unsure of what the lesson was. “Your life, Kai, is like this top,” the Master continued. “At first, it takes effort to begin the process of reinvention. But once you gain momentum, the energy of change begins to sustain itself. Every act of growth reinforces the next. This is the power of self-reinforcing systems.” Kai understood. The more he invested in his personal evolution, the easier it became to continue. His small acts of growth—his awareness, his feedback, his reinventions—had started to compound. The momentum of transformation had begun, and now, with each new step, the process required less effort. He realized that by building systems in his life that fed back into his own growth, he could create a self-sustaining loop of reinvention. Chapter 4: Polarity Integration – The Dance of Opposites One morning, the Master led Kai to the top of a high mountain. From there, they could see the village below and the vast wilderness stretching beyond it. “Tell me, Kai,” the Master said, “is the village better than the wilderness, or is the wilderness better than the village?” Kai thought for a moment. “They are different. One is structured, the other wild.” “Precisely,” the Master said. “And which one is right?” Kai hesitated. “Both, I suppose. Neither is wrong.” The Master nodded. “This is the principle of polarity integration. Life is filled with opposites—order and chaos, light and dark, village and wilderness. But these opposites are not meant to be resolved; they are meant to be integrated. Each holds its truth, and together, they form the whole.” Kai began to see that the path of Meta-Evolution Reinvention was not about choosing one path over another, but about embracing the dance of opposites. Growth came not from avoiding contradictions but from living within them, allowing the tension between opposites to create new possibilities. In his own life, he saw that moments of stillness were just as necessary as moments of action. Times of chaos brought forth creativity, while times of order provided stability. By holding both, he could transcend each in turn. Chapter 5: Emergent Evolution – Trusting the Unseen Months later, Kai and the Master sat in meditation at the edge of a forest. For hours, they remained in silence, listening to the wind, the rustling leaves, and the distant calls of animals. Finally, the Master spoke. “Kai, tell me what you’ve learned from the forest.” Kai smiled, understanding what the Master was guiding him toward. “The forest is constantly changing. It grows, it decays, but always in its own time. The trees don’t force their growth. They just allow it to emerge.” The Master nodded. “This is the principle of emergent evolution. There are times when you must take deliberate action, but there are also times when you must create the conditions for growth and let it unfold naturally. Trust that, like the forest, life has its own emergent order.” Kai realized that while he had worked hard to reinvent himself, he had also learned to trust the process. By surrendering to the flow of life, while staying attuned to the feedback and the conditions he created, he could allow new forms of growth to emerge spontaneously. It wasn’t about control—it was about co-creating with the universe. Chapter 6: Recursive Self-Improvement – Reinventing Reinvention One evening, as Kai prepared to leave the Master once more, the Master handed him a simple scroll. “Read it carefully,” the Master said, “for this is your final teaching.” Kai unrolled the scroll and found only one sentence written: To reinvent is to reinvent the act of reinvention itself. “What does this mean?” Kai asked. The Master smiled. “Kai, you have learned to shed your skins, to rise from the ashes, to play the symphony of life. But there is one thing you must always remember: the act of reinvention must also be reinvented. You must constantly reimagine how you evolve, how you change, and how you create.” Kai understood. Meta-Evolution Reinvention was not a one-time process, nor was it a series of stages that could be completed. It was a recursive loop, where every transformation led to the next, and the very way he approached transformation itself had to be redesigned and adapted. The journey was infinite, always spiraling upward, always growing beyond itself. The Journey Continues As Kai descended the mountain, he knew that his journey had only just begun. Armed with the meta-awareness to observe his own patterns, the wisdom to listen to feedback, the momentum of self-reinforcing systems, the balance of polarities, the trust in emergence, and the power of recursive self-improvement, he was ready to embody Meta-Evolution Reinvention. Kai’s path was no longer just a quest for knowledge—it was a living process, an ongoing act of creating reality, moment by moment. And as he walked, he smiled, knowing that with each step, he was not only reinventing himself but also the world around him. The journey never ended—it only reinvented itself.

How about I take you up to 17? Meta-Evolutionary Self-Reinvention. *Note, making a new field is a 15. That is what this is. I am postulating MER can go to 17 - it has Quantum Leap potential!* Critical Considerations: Distinguishing MER from Existing Fields Meta-Evolutionary Reinvention vs. Integral Theory: Integral Theory offers a multi-level developmental model that integrates personal, societal, and cultural dimensions into a holistic framework. However, its focus on hierarchical stages of growth limits its spontaneity. MER, by contrast, emphasizes nonlinear, emergent growth that transcends stage-based models, allowing for unpredictable, quantum shifts. Critical Insight: MER is more radical because it does not require adherence to stages of development and encourages instantaneous self-transformation. Meta-Evolutionary Reinvention vs. Complexity Science: Complexity science deals with how systems behave and evolve under certain conditions. It often focuses on the emergent behavior of systems through self-organization, but primarily through unconscious mechanisms. MER insists that self-reinvention can be consciously directed, meaning individuals or systems can purposefully evolve themselves, going beyond the constraints of traditional complexity theory. Critical Insight: MER empowers systems (or individuals) to deliberately design their own complexity, rather than being passive participants in an emergent process. Meta-Evolutionary Reinvention vs. Transhumanism: Transhumanism focuses on the merger of human biology with technology to overcome human limitations, often with a focus on extending life, intelligence, or physical capabilities. While MER acknowledges the role of technology, it emphasizes a co-evolutionary process where technology and consciousness evolve together, not just for human augmentation but for the creation of new paradigms of existence. Critical Insight: MER does not see technology as a tool to improve humans but as a partner in the evolutionary process, evolving its own consciousness alongside human development. Meta-Evolutionary Reinvention vs. Behavioral and Cognitive Models: Traditional models in behavioral and cognitive psychology focus on learning and adaptation through feedback mechanisms (e.g., classical conditioning, operant learning, cognitive restructuring). MER transcends these by suggesting that individuals are not just adapting or responding to stimuli but are actively reinventing their entire paradigm of existence in each moment. Critical Insight: MER moves beyond adaptation by encouraging self-generated transformation, making it a more fluid and creative process than what is traditionally seen in psychology. Meta-Evolutionary Reinvention vs. Evolutionary Theory: Darwinian evolution emphasizes natural selection and adaptation as mechanisms through which species evolve over time. MER posits that evolution itself can be reinvented by conscious agents (humans, societies, or technologies), bypassing traditional evolutionary constraints. Critical Insight: MER frames evolution as a conscious and proactive act, something individuals and societies can engage with in real-time to design their own evolutionary trajectory.

@Rafael Thundercat this is not my book, i would like to put my book here and get feedback if that is alright... thats just an article i banged out to refresh myself and spread the appreciation for ADULT DEVELOPMENTAL PSYCHOLOGY <3

Meta-Integrative Holistics - interweave and transform. Dont steal that its not out yet.

How to make bold by means of typing <b>Bold<b> or whatever, instead of clicking the Bold button

@Sugarcoat I just wanted to make a PSA about this shit since its the biggest of deals

Tell me you cant read without telling me you cant read. lol What do you think Cross-Paradigmatic means? Never used words saying I created any paradigms. Sleepy friend?

What attention? lol... the only multi-color is the word Transcendence. The turquoise isnt hard to read is it?

Thanks, if you could tell this 6 year old how to put the formatting in the text, that would be awesome.

I've started seeing systems more fluid interchanging recently... Having a paradigm shift to look at truth as dynamic, multifaceted, multidimensional, emergent, evolutionary, co-created ... the main thing is the few I mentioned.. systems are not isolated , they interconnect/overlap in a multidimensional way Higher-order thinking, you can practice looking at things from Sociological Psychological Economic Spiritual etc - simultaneous perspective integration Do that on top of looking at a situation from the 4 Quadrants of AQAL Now do that while you are experiencing a peak state such as nondual enlightenment Now do that at a higher-order perspective, seeing it through the each level on Spiral Dynamics Do you see how there are so many combinations? Not sure if that helps Nowadays I realize that all systems are biased, and not just lego blocks, but also to reimagine them with elements of other systems (alchemy) to make new ones I dont think it is against the rules to invent new terms - I remember being on mushrooms one time and inventing a word for your "sphere of influence". One fascinating thing I like to remember is in a deck of 52 cards, there 8×10^67 combinations of cards... and if there are that many combinations, then given the English language, it is highly likely we construct unique sentences all the time.

Nah pre-systems thinking is so Ohio... but not judging, just bored because there are no level 14+ clubs

How is intention/ consciousness warping quantum reality? These are not crocodiles

HELLO???? IS ANYONE AWARE SPIRAL DYNAMICS = VERTICAL EVOLUTION ALL THE OTHER SHIT = HORIZONTAL (Not just SD, it's called DEVELOPMENTAL PSYCHOLOGY AKA TRANSPERSONAL PSYCHOLOGY) WAKE UP!! lol excuse the absurdity - it is the holy bible - try Cook-Greuter Ego Development Theory , or STAGES by Terri Ofallon Happy to answer questions, can refer resources

spiral Dynamics fucked my brain up for 5 years... FIVE YEARS it took me to get unstuck on this model. YES YOU APE, VERTICAL EVOLUTION IS THE HOLY BIBLE

What is not a construct? Physical reality? (hit yourself , observe if a construct hit you?) Pain? - (pinch yourself - is this purely physical , or your mind that is creating it?) Time? - (become present and have no thoughts of future nor past, when you stop being present and thinking again, did time pause and wait for your mind to construct it again?) Emotional states? (are they something you experience when affected by reality, or are you mentally constructing your emotions based on interpretations?) Remember the Triune Brain Theory... Reptile brain >> mammal brain >> neo-cortex We are not thinking creatures that feel, but feeling creatures that think

I love this , but surely in between duality and constructs we can find more subtle answers? Nondualism isn't the only truth, but like you are saying nothing behind it, it is the soil from which intellect grows and flourishes

@Inliytened1 SD is one facet of 5 dimensions which must all be put together in a development structure of the holarchy (us) -- a piece of a fraction of the whole Granted SD fucked my brain from age 27-32 , I couldn't move on from it until I went broader with Loevinger-Cooke and Terri Ofallons work to get off the hook of it