How to be wise

@Serotoninluv without a thought, what would be left?

@Emerald I’m working on it.

Donald Trump is just as good as Ramana Maharshi. Except for your mind’s judgment.

@Zeus Is it true that you are speaking with other beings? Meditate on that question.

@Iiris 1% theory, 99% action. Are you falling into the ‘too much theory’ trap.

@Leo Gura It’s not that it’s ‘other’, it’s that it’s not true. It’s fake. Unreal.

Environment is just a thought. It’s not real. Even when you look at an “environment”, if your mind doesn’t name it with thoughts, it remains as nothing.

I shall translate the above comment: I was having a little discussion in the following diary: Because I do not want to spam big personal thread @ Iiris, I decided to open the discussion with the rest of you all. So here's what a user wrote: "Changes come after we accept that we are creators of our anxiety and therefore have the power to change the way we perceive and react to certain circumstances. Acceptance does not mean that we take the blame, it just means that we no longer feel it useful to point the finger out and instead reflect internally. The outer world will always reflect the interior ... that is what it means "we create our own reality" So, here are my thoughts for each of your points: ”The changes come after we accept that we are creators of our anxiety and therefore have the power to change the way we perceive and react to certain circumstances.” First, according to science, generalized anxiety and clinical depression are not caused by our minds, but by our brain chemistry. But let's talk about "regular" anxiety. Let's say that the most spiritually enlightened person who ever walked the earth was given the task of raising ten children by themselves. Would not you feel stressed or anxious? Of course, our reaction to anxiety can actually amplify its power. But to say that "we create anxiety" is a big leap. I would love it @ DrewNows would present some evidence that this is the case. After all, as Carl Sagan said, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." “Acceptance does not mean that we take the blame, it just means that we no longer feel it useful to point the finger out and instead reflect internally.” I agree with this point. We ourselves must act to change what we do not like in our lives. “The outer world will always mirror the interior ... this is what it means "we create our own reality" So will the outside world always reflect the interior? Give me some time! Is the fact that babies are hungry in Africa just a reflection of their inner world? Did not you support your first statement, or is it an axiom only developed spiritual people can understand? (also known as non sequitur) Great reading on this topic: https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/intimacy-path-toward-spirituality/201412/do-we-create-our-own-reality

@SQAAD The Work of Byron Katie: The Four Questions

@Eric Tarpall Probably just your story. You had a thought about how they would smell, and your mind projected a smell. Just like when you think of a lemon, you can taste it.

@SQAAD The problem with positive psychology is that it does not focus on undoing stressful beliefs. It just glosses them over with affirmations. That may be well and good, but the power of those stressful beliefs are so powerful that they effortlessly overwhelm all of the positive affirmations that you try to cover it with. Undoing those beliefs requires spirituality, because the thinking mind cannot cure itself. You need to go in deep enough to ask the heart-mind, which can undo those beliefs and cure your depression/anxiety.

@JohnnyBravo Amazing. Thanks for sharing.

@Leo Gura what about questions such as “how to create a magic pill for enlightenment?” If I contemplate that question for 40 years, will I get the answer to it? Is there a chance for me to get the answer for it?

When I started watching his videos, he seemed Blue to me, because he’s a Muslim. But when you listen to him speak, you can feel a Green/Yellow aura coming from him. Can somebody pin him down by this video:

@Leo Gura please upload it on your website.

@Mezanti yeah, that’s Orange’s need to win. But we all have that to some extent.

@Shaun Lol. I mean his Spiral level, not his skin colour. ?

@Nahm Please elaborate.

Something interesting happened during my self-inquiry session two days ago. When I asked the question ‘is it true’ (for some particular thought), instead of asking the mind, which I usually did, I decided to ask the heart instead. I call it the heart, but what it is is some sort of empty space within you where your mind doesn’t operate in. So when I asked the question there, I went into a meditation on that space, and I felt a clear ‘no’. And that ‘no’ was very transformative. It changed the way I felt about that situation, and it really took a big stab at my identity. True self-inquiry happens when ‘the heart’ answers the question. The mind can’t answer the question that it itself is asking.

@Leo Gura What’s the difference between an enlightenment experience from meditation and from psychedelics? Are psychedelic ones less transformative?

Interesting discussion. The Muslim man is saying a lot of the things that Leo is saying, whilst the Atheist man is saying all the things that Leo hates about Orange. Even though I’m pretty sure the Muslim man is Blue.

@Serotoninluv Of course not.

@Mondsee Fasting only makes your meditation sessions more difficult. It will only be a hindrance in the beginning. Perhaps when you’re advanced, you may use fasting to grow yourself. But definitely not the beginning.

Who else is working with you?

@Iiris