UnbornTao

It's nonsensical if you assume it is the result of a process. That's why I hinted that it's a paradoxical possibility that's inherently mysterious. You just do - you "take the leap through consciousness." And it is sudden and now. Relative conditions are irrelevant. In the analogy, how do you explain the waking up from the dream? What do you attribute it to? Do you think it is attributable to some cause or action, or an outcome, or an activity? Like A + B + C = awakening? How could the content of the dream possibly produce the experience of awakening from it? It is not possible to put together some content of the dream to produce a realization of its nature. Everywhere you look and everything you do is the dream - including your body. This is what "direct" is all about.

Self-inquiry doesn't do it either. And I wanted a cappuccino god damn it.

Sure. Never-mind.

You think that, in order to wake up from the dream, you can do so by drinking coffee within it. How many times have I used this analogy?

Where did you get the idea that truth is subject to the brain? Whatever is ultimately true about reality is already true - even before you had a brain, and after you lose it.

The history of coffee and curious facts about this bean and beverage, by GPT:

How do you write your books? How do you approach communicating an insight or a direct consciousness? What do you pay attention to so that it gets across - that it's conveyed in a way you find satisfying? I suppose, in one form or another, this might boil down to: What is the art of facilitation really about? What makes a facilitator or author masterful? A bit too generic, perhaps.

Very Zen. 🧘🧘🏼‍♂️

How do you see sentience?

I thought Morgan Freeman was. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Mr8blRexXGQ

I'll have some awareness with the wine.

Besides the advice shared here, you might want to ask that question specifically to your ophthalmologist.

But I love lasagna!

Looks cool - I see it as a more technologically-advanced form of collective survival.

@Breakingthewall @BlueOak @Raze Thanks guys, it was mostly an attempt to lighten up the conversation. Keep fighting.

How much of the conversation is AI-generated? GPT vs GPT.

@Ishanga Got it, thank you. Does it sound like it could be used as an easy way to offload personal responsibility onto external factors?

Hey, you've publicly given your word. We'll be watching.

That's some real commitment.

Right, and I bet it's even trickier to see through that assumption because we are currently "living it." We're inside it, so to speak. We can, and probably should, first approach it intellectually, as a first step - trying to locate it and understand it. Which is what we're doing here.

Persistence, basically.

Sounds a bit far-fetched. Manage or better deal with the disease - or even prevent it to some degree as part of a long-term process - would probably be more appropriate terms than cure. But I don’t know.

We're not? I was making a point. Haven't done the research, though.

Well, that is relative and dependent on you, it seems to me. In the conventional sense, it's clearly relational. For example, we generally don't regard disgusting things as beautiful, because a distinction is being made! If there were such a thing as absolute beauty, then why even call it "beauty" at that point, if it's absolute? The point is that our experience suggests otherwise - that it is conditional. Could it be that whatever is aesthetically (or otherwise) pleasing or agreeable to one's self-concerns is what determines (or a core component of) whether something or someone is deemed beautiful? Why don't we tend to say that dog poop is beautiful? We can also see how it tends to be applied to objects and people - someone is beautiful to me. Is it always a subjective assessment? What's the criterion based on? For example, can so-called beauty exist prior to the application of interpretation? If we say that perceiving an object is different from the application of value and meaning, does perceiving it imbue us with the "beauty-value" of that object? Is the object beautiful in itself? Going a step further, does the object have meaning to itself? A bit all over the place...