UnbornTao

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Finding Yourself Contemplation Get at the most real and present sense of yourself that you can right now. Find you. What comes to mind? Do this now. Notice that everything that arose came to you. Everything is received by you but are you a perception? Is you perceived? Who is perceiving what came to mind as a result of the above exercise?

Hurting others is rarely done for their own benefit; it is an attempt at personal anger relief, perhaps. Helping them is a different matter. You should be clear on your motivation for acting that way. Be honest. Why do you actually want to hurt others? Don't you think there's a more effective approach? How would you feel and react if treated the way you profess? You may be angry or resentful, and are perhaps looking for a pretext to let your impulses loose.

Goes to show they're dealing with beliefs and assumptions and defending them.

Okey-doke! Seriously, no.

Oh, this is pertinent to the discussion:

To be clear, this behaviour is common to humans because believing is easy. It applies to humans no matter the field but you're right that "spiritual" or religious communities -- not saying this is one -- are specially guilty of this, as the purpose of most of them is precisely that, believing.

What is thinking for oneself? How to think critically? Inspired by Pyrrhonism.

A look into pain as it is such a foundational experience.

Go ahead, if you want. As long as it doesn't go against the guidelines and is respectful, sharing a perspective won't get you banned. About the hate part, people will respond however they do. No guarantee all of it will be praise.

Please, keep your posts clean and concise if you can.

Not many. If we're talking profoundly enlightened, a handful.

Rupert Spira and Adyashanti are a couple of the best, they hold satsangs -- meetings, check them out. I've heard Adi Da's transmissions were insane and intense, he was deeply enlightened according to Wilber. He isn't alive but you can check out his videos on YT.

That's a feature.

Happiness may not be circumstantially-derived, after all. You're still holding "winning" -- survival -- as happiness. Whenever things go your way, you say you're happy. When they're not, you say you aren't. I finally got the PS5 - yeah! I'm happy. I couldn't get the Ferrari - oh I'm so depressed. In any case, whenever the condition ceases to exist you're back to chasing the cheese -- of survival. Happiness may be a function of your nature... But hey, who knows? Maybe happiness is not what we think it is.

What is your experience of suffering when it is embraced, turned into, and felt completely?

What would your motivation be for acting that way? I don't see how that would be helpful, except perhaps done occasionally in very specific situations. But it would have to affect another positively, not done for yourself. Perhaps you adopt the role of facilitator and see that another is stuck in a perspective, so you take a stab at his attachments so that he eases up on it.

Fair enough.

Could come up with a lame formula for both cases. I see potential here. I'mfucked-hate: when a human struggles both to get laid and to get paid.

OK.

Know what? When? Tell me what you are.

Fair enough, thank you. Keep up the good work.