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I think you're both right to a degree but it might just be more complicated than A or B. Certain mental health issues have indeed been associated with B-deficiency and giving people B-complex might help (if that was the causative factor) although the data is inconclusive as you may see. Forest Plots are borderline statistically significant and confidence intervals remain fairly wide which tells you there is more to it (as it always is) On the other hand, some people do indeed find them energising. B-vitamins are a part of the glycolysis & Kreb Cycle that help your body produce ATP (energy currency) so technically if you were long-term deficient and suddenly you get an influx of B-s in a way you are getting "back on the baseline" but for anyone long term deprived this may come across as "highly stimulating" because they've just been deficient for so long they forgot what it feels like to have energy (this is actually pretty common among guys, I've seen a fair share of that in my practice) In addition, B vitamins are cofactors in all sorts of metabolic processes including things like neurotransmitters and even certain hormones so in a way, you might just be getting back to "feeling normal". And finally, B vitamins are notoriously difficult to measure because they do not hang around for too long (with exception of B12) and so most standardised blood tests are inaccurate and specific essays such as EGOT, MMA or Red Blood Cell Folate need to be acquired for an adequate tissue representation. As an example, a person who just took B12 supplement would show "normal" on Serum B12 but would show high on Methylmalonic Acid test indicating that in reality their tissue levels are depleted but the blood test only saw the circulating supplement so we can't really tell if we are looking at the right thing to begin with From experience with client work, on their own, they rarely do much if not part of a larger dietary/lifestyle modification and at that point we no longer know what made the difference anymore (the major challenge with epidemiology) But then who knows, there is still much we don't understand

@Jannes when I use them for breakfast it is the same recipe as when making oatmeal (just takes longer to cook) something like the breakfast recipes in this videl I made ages ago. When using as a main, then it depends - but yet spices are usually added depending on what meal is it (Mexican, Indian, Lebanese etc..) think of them as a rice alternative and use them as such. They change the taste slightly but considering these things have about 10-15 times as much fibre as white rice, I don't mind.

@integral I order these online in bulk and then mix and match in a jar. I usually do Barley Buckwheat Spelt (for some reason it is more expensive than all the other ones) Wheat Grain Sometimes amaranth or quinoa If you can order these in bulk, that's gonna be cheaper. I do 2 kilos of each about every 4-6 months Then i just throw in a cup in boiling water and once ready top up with whatever I have available.

Nice! I love oat waffles with dark chocolate and berries Try whole spelt porridge with some berries and nuts - guaranteed to double that energy peak ? throw an egg in for a good measure

About 21 - 23 once the epiphyseal plats calcify fully, then your height is set for life . After that, any growth you get is tissue density only (muscle, fat, bone-to a small degree) Sometimes if people have deformities of spine like lordosis and can have them corrected, they may get a few cm back but not sure how common that is and probably irrelevant to healthy people. You get growth hormone spikes throughout your whole lifetime, but its impact diminishes over a time.

Give it a try, go raw for 3 months then come back to use and make a long-educated post about it. Otherwise, these sorts of absolute statements are hollow and meaningless. If we are going to be ignoring the current level of evidence (which disagrees with you) then the only thing left is direct experience. As they say, "direct experience is the king". Would love to see the results of that journey. Heck....document it and then make YouTube video.

agreed with this, sounds like a half-arsed vegan diet @integral bro I don't think you tried hard enough. I am no longer vegan but when I was for 4 years, the first few months until I figured out how to do it properly I was like Walking Dead, then my energy came back and afterwards everything was as it was previously, digestive regularity was definitely better.

Did you test this yourself or the doctor? Have you fasted for 12 hours before the test? You need re-testing and also need to get your long-term blood sugar control testing (HbA1C & HOMA-IR) How are your blood lipids? (cholesterol, triglycerides etc). What is your BMI? Basically go back to a doctor and ask for retesting. No doctor in the world would just leave this without testing further in a 27 year old persom. Could there have been some sample contamination? When I was a kid, my mom had me pee in a jar that previously had honey in it and it was poorly washed and once the doctor tested she called my mom saying I have the most extreme diabetes she has ever seen. Ofcourse the dissolved honey in the sample did not help

sorry, I meant half-life Yes, I'm slowly beginning to realise this. if a patient comes to you with elevated LDL -C and elevated non-HDL, cholesterol, how do you tell if they would benefit from ApoB testing as well? Age? Ethnicity? Other risk factors? (alcohol, smoking) does LP(a) change over lifetime or is it moslty set like APoE4, if you have it, you have higher odds of ending up really fucked if you are not careful.

Sounds like a pretty messed up situation. I wouldn't do it, if it doesn't work out, you won't hear the end of it. If it does work out, he will dangle it in front of your eyes each time he needs a favour from you. Tbh I'd probably figure out how to pay the education myself. Maybe get a job, earn some money and try again in couple years. There is actually higher value in getting your degree once you are older and more experienced in life, in general. Go get some experience and make some money. Some companies may even contribute to your tuition, there is lots of different benefits out there they offer these days. Oh and, separate yourself form your dad as much as you can. Sounds like he has pretty screwed up perception of money, you don't want to be part of that EDIT: oh wait, you already finished the school and now he wants it back?

Good to know, I was not aware of the cost barrier. What is the pharmacodynamic life of a single shot before you need another one? Also regarding Lp(a) - where does it stand among full lipid panel and ApoB in terms of its relevance for CVD risk? I understand that where evidence goes we have Total Cholesterol, LDL C and HDL-C at the top, ApoB probably one step lower and Lp(a) kinda somewhere underneath not being as significant but still interesting. Or is that not so? I have not looked into this myself so I'm a bit in the dark on that one

Have your ApoB measured. It is more important than the entire lipid panel and most likely the most relevant marker. The test is relatively cheap in US If it shows too high and you cannot change the diet for now, it might be a good idea to take an occasional injection of PCSK-9 inhibitor to protect your vascular system from atherogenesis while you fix your gut. Alternatively, taking a low-grade statin would keep those levels low as well. It is not ideal, but it is the lesser evil where arterial plaque build-up is concerned. Just a friendly share

Wouldn't want to be in the same room with you and your 21 cups of bean-associated digestion You ca certainly survive on this but sounds a bit dull, like a prison diet in Mexico

@FourCrossedWands thanks. 40.4 nmol/L isn't extremely low. I wouldn't even call it deficient, but maybe "suboptimal" is the right word. If you can get yourself higher, that would probably be useful. You are unlikely to see any acute difference (e.g. better brain performance) but your long term health is going to receive an extra buff. Based on the longitudinal data for male cardiovascular and cancer mortality being in the 80s up to lower 90s is the most protective. Going over the 90s bends the curve upwards for some reason and extremely high levels are actually associated with harm. Work with your doc to get a correct supplemental routine and make the most of any sun you can get.... of course pay attention to not getting burned

What are the units of measure?

Hard to tell, depends on the entire sourcing infrastructure. Most protein bars are a junk food with extra whey. You could make your own from a mix of dried fruit, raw peanuts, cocoa and 3rd party tested protein powder like Vivo Life. All you need is a food processor and a bit of trial & error. Bake or no bakes. You could make up to 20-30 for the price of 2 in a shop if you source your ingredients in bulk

@The0Self @Lila9 you guys are correct, algae do indeed contain EPA, dunno why I had that wrong. Thanks for the correction

this guys is a joke, I can't believe he has so much publicity - he was never the strongest man, I don't know where that even came from. His records never even came close to Eddie Hall or Bryan Shaw. He is a glorified celebrity on roids and powders - yeah, I would not take this dude as an example of a healthy vegan diet for sure do you think every vegan in the gym wears a t-shirt "plant-powered" like a clown? Not all need to attract attention to themselves. Plenty of athlestes out there who are meat-free. What even is a definition of an athlete? If you are thinking about world class lifter then there are very few but plenty of plant based folks are fit and agile but not famous. agreed No, Vegetable Police is a poser who likes to create drama. I have been following his journey for around 4 years before I realised that for him it is always about "what's the new crazy thing I can be doing" I was even in his Patreon Group at one point. In fact he will tell you that neither carnivore nor vegan nor paleo nor keto nor anything else worked for him. He'll always bring up how everything flares up his IBD and then do some lunacy rather than actually stick to one protocol long enough. His content is all about jibberish and monkey business. I've stopped taking him seriously a long time ago. He is a funny guy tho and gave me many laughs over the year but his health content is all over the place. The camera channel is pretty hilarious I have to admit and he is also a really talented music producer - I bought his album couple years ago and it was really cool. As per John Venus, I don't believe he ever gave fuck about animals. He is a poser and always has been. I wouldn't be surprised if he was, all that time, snacking on meat behind the scenes. He and his wife are just your typical Youtube fitness pseudo-fitness gurus selling cookie cutter overpriced plans. When I spoke to him on vegfest in London, I didn't buy the things he was saying - his body language did not confirm the words he was speaking. But he is a good marketers and a good business man, that's for sure. And he looks like a Greek god with a face that melts your heart which does help Nimai Delgado might be a better example although I'm not sure to what degree he is roid free, he probably is. If you want to see a healthy example, the best one I can think of is Derek Simnet and Krystal Kennings from Simnet Nutrition. I spoke to both of them on VegFest and they are the most charming couple out there. I am sure Richard Burgees from Vegan Gains behind all that drama and depression is a decent guy who just needs to learn to let go and take a step back. But yah overall the vegan influencer scene is riddled with posers, fake natties and a lot of pseudoscience but there are good examples of really caring people who do good things.

^ this response ^ Fix this before doing anything else. I can report similar findings. If I spend most of my day sitting on my ass, working and not going outside, my sleep is awful. The more physical activity I include the better. The best sleep are the ones when I spend a whole day outdoors hiking for example and feel exhausted at the end of the day.

Couple of ideas I can think of depending on the scale you want to have an impact. Obviously, all of these are macro categories and they can be broken down into an endless amount of jobs. None of the below are jobs per se, they are sectors which you may consider. Careers in health & welness in general - medicine, alternative medicine, welness services, therapeutic services of any kind Ecology, Sustainability and Planetary Welfare - such as WWF, B-Corp, Fair Trade, Organic Soil Association . Social Services - retirement homes, social care, homeless care, child foster care services etc Law and legal counselling services Careers in consumer right protection of any kind - such as corporate audits, legal support for people who cannot afford private counceling Careers in consumer health protection - FDA, Water treatment, Public health guidelines etc. Careers in public safety services - fire brigade, police department, military, paramedic services, crime & investigation, forensics Other public services - public transport & infrastructure management Education & Tutoring in any shape and form is a humble public service with lasting impact Farming & Food sourcing is much needed public service Missionary work Public entertainment is a gigantic sector with millions of different jobs There is much more. Ofcourse different careers come with different salaries, career progression and satisfaction but if your sole goal is to help people and feel good at the end of a day, you can have that as a mental health coach, as a paramedic, as as an elementary school teacher or an educator or even as a volunteer in a charity shop. All depends on your values, financial needs, freedom requirements and current staus quo

Or maybe this is because people now live longer than those tribals you referred to? Yes, maybe 10,000 yrs ago people didn't have allergies but a pandemic of tuberculosis would have wiped out 80% of the tribe. Not to mention 9/10 children would not live to be 5 years old, mothers would be dying during labour and average lifespan being 30-40. Allergies might be the cost we pay for having eradicated 99% of deadly viruses and bacteria that were killing people left and righjt. Maybe that's a small price to pay for being sure you children don't die of smallpox? As per the mental distress and "mess" consider how our lifes have changed as the society has evolved. We live in different housing, people have more stressors, more burdens and more responsibilities which is causing mental distress - an average women no longer just cares about babies. Now she has a career, dependencies, bills to pay, body to take care of, a husband to satisfy, food to provide, deadlines to deliver, car to drive, grociers to take care of, household to manage, hobbies and interests to satisfy, parents to take care of (who now live longer and are more likely to get sick and need help) etc etc etc. I don't know about your life but I certianly cannot afford to sit and meditate for hours a day or live on fruits while running a business & having a 9-5 job, deadlines, projects, bills to pay in double-digit inflation etc. I could not do that on fruit juices, trust me I tried. (read below) I just want to make sure you are not having a distorted perspective of the world as it would seem from some of your comments. Maybe you are lucky to be able to afford a certain type of lifestyle that many cannot. If you live with parents or live in a place like California, south US, Australia or have a wealthy family, you may completely misrepresent what life is like for most people. I think that's important to appreciate. I can tell you that folks in cold UK, northern Europe, Germany, France or Baltic region cannot live on fruits in January. Or imagine being a single mother living in Manchester UK or the suburban Washington DC with low level of education and an annual income of 18K having 3 jobs. You're glad if you can keep your kids alive with the cheapest diet possible without them going hungry, going dirty or turning to drugs. I know where you're coming from in general. I was a follower of Robert Morse, John Rose, Mangotarian (before he turned to dark side), I was a member of 30 Bananas a Day following Freelee and her craziness and even using ROber Morse's herbs for like 6 months to eradicate my allergies (didn't help as much) and all those sides and I was sold into the ideology of infinite body intelligence, fruit fasting and all of that. If if you look back enough, my comments on this forum 4-5 years ago reflected that. What happened is I started losing strength, libido, my gums eroded a few millimetres on bottom canines (that has never recovered since) and I generally felt like shit on a fruitarian diet. It was the most expensive and most challenging diet I've ever been on. But at some point, you come to a point where you see that this lifestyle is unattainable for most people. And that's where a balance needs to come in. You introduce cooked food, some legumes, spices, some meat (unless ethically conflicted) and suddenly you feel much better. And I know protein is being thrown around a lot but despite that many people still walk around protein deficient as they try to navigate all the internet nonsense and are going from one fad to another. Even highly educated and well-off people struggle with this. I know the opinion of Robert Morse and his community on protein (acid causing, mucous causing and all that stuff) but without it people just feel like crap. What's the point of living like that? Don't take that as a criticism and ignore if doesn't resonate, it's just an observation and an attempt to draw the other side of the chasm.

I would be careful with this. If you depend on those without supplements you will run into critical deficiencies and demyelination of your central nervous system. As a vegan, you MUST supplement B12 if you want to prevent irreversible neurological damage. Once a year you should also run either methylmalonic acid test or holo transcomabalamin test as serum B12 is inreliable. If you are 100% vegan, these may save you from lots of issues. The reason you have no problems is that you probably have good hepatic stores but if you don't supplement, you're gonna run out. Algae are only a source of DHA, fish are a source of both EPA and DHA. They are not better or worse, they are the same gram for gram of DHA but they are less complete you could say where full Omega 3 profile is concerned. Combined with something like flax oil you should probably get all you need. that's an unfair argument against veganism. You would have to assume that omivores don't use those where in fact probably like 60% of gym goers take some form of protein isolate. Be objective In fact I would go as far as to say if you put 100 vegan and 100 omnivore athletes next to eachother, omnivores would be loading up on significantly more additional protein than vegans (but I have no data to back this up, just a speculation on my end)

I love fruits. Love the taste, low how healthy they are, and I feel good when my diet is rich in fibre. Fruits are to me what butter is to you. My gut can handle 100 grams of fibre per day without consequences. And yes to your point, barley porridge on its own is a bit dull, but does that mean the food itself is automatically unhealthy?.....I don't really like this argument of "people need fruit with food otherwise, it tastes blend" Why not combine foods to make them more palatable if you can? What's wrong with that? Most people already suffer enough, have tremendous amounts of burdens, raising kids, paying bills in a double-digit inflation, doing shit jobs they hate, stressors and anxieties in their life, and can't make their food palatable without being guilted by freaks on the internet? Life comes in balance. Nothing good ever comes of extremes Because they are highly educated, highly privileged, white males living in the richest regions of the world, wealthy and EXTREMELY biased sample. They are not the regular Joe or regular Jane with zero health knowledge who cannot just navigate all the pitfalls. I have seen the way people with low nutritional knowledge do keto or carnivore. They eat fucking salamis with mayonnaise and fried eggs and reject fruits and vegetables. They think they are doing what Paul is doing when he loads his steak with a pound of vegetables. They are not. Most people who attempt these diets end up with high LDL and high blood pressure. This is my main grievance that these clowns have complete disregard for how people misunderstand their advice, and all they hear is "red meat is good". Go on nutrition Twitter and actually look up the examples of young carnivores having their bypasses, colonic polyps found on colonoscopy in their early 40s. It is not worth it, the diet is too risky, there are too many unknown variables. People do not differentiate between processed and unprocessed. They cannot tell what fats are saturated and which are not. They don't understand fibre, they don't understand the importance of microbiota. They remember the things that are most exciting - "vegans are wrong, and meat is good" and they go on a crusade (kinda like what you did above) with 2% of the big picture understanding, completely ignorant of the fact that their picture is missing 98% of the clarity. And when someone tries to educate them, someone with PhD let's say, they are dismissed as "epidemiology fanatics" - it is a freaking clownshow. All carnivores have problems which is why they become carnivores in the first place. Do you think it is normal that people cannot digest fibre even thou humans have been eating high-fibre diets pretty much since the times of ancient Egypt and the Roman Empire, way before that even. It's just that it is human nature to become a crusader and ideologist which is how this nonsense spreads. To be honest, I would rather get SIBO than colorectal cancer if those were my two choices.

Edit: my first response was triggered and inflammatory. I'll just tell you what I told you before Please don't settle with your health so quickly to people who are excellent marketers because you may pay for it one day. That's all. Just keep your guard up.