Salvijus

@pointessa "Initiation is related to honoring the lineage of gurus and not sharing information." The way initiations happen in Isha are purely to transmit knowledge. Not an objective knowledge that you see in books but a subjective knowledge that can only happen in a commited atmosphere and energy transmission. I heard sadhguru once said that if you go through the program and you have 0 clue what he was talking about. If you have no understanding what was happening. After 6months of doing the practice you will understand everything that was offered in that program because they don't just talk and talk. They drill this information like a seed in your energy for life and when you do the practice the seed will sprout and you will realise everything that was said in the program from within. It will just sprout out of you. If the seed is not there. If the initiation did not happen nothing will sprout. That's why initiations are so fantastic. Because they drill meditation into you on such a deep levels that it's forever. You can't grasp these subjetive dimensions through books. It has to be transmited there's no other way. If it was possible to just write a book on it then his work would be 100times easier. @pointessa "I am not sure it is a great idea to believe nothing you have accomplished would have occurred without the blessing of a particular person." It's not a belief it's so overhelmingly real for me like my 5 fingers. It's not blessing it's total transformation. People who go through his advanced programs within 24h they transform so much that even their face will change. It's ONLY because of imense energy that's been invested in them through intense initiations. Some people need to be caried by volunteers because they can't stand anymore. Don't confuse initiations with stupid blessings you receive in churches.

Listen carefully from 14min. He says those who suffer will only seek pleasure nothing more. Because people think that enlightenment is the end of suffering. That's why they are chasing enlightenment because they don't realize all they actually want is happyness not dissolusion. The only reason you're thinking about being egoless is because you think after you become egoless you'll be happy. So that's why you think enlightenment is the solution. But all you want is to be happy not dead. It's because you imagine that once you're egoless everything will be perfect in your life. And you're using pain to increase the motivation to get to that egoless state which is fine. But egoless state is not Mukti, it's not enlightenment, it's not dissolusion. It's just a pleasent, fancy experience. All you want is a pleasent experience. But when Sadhguru says suffering will not seek. What he means is that someone who's suffering will not think about dissolusion. Mukti or dissolusion means you trying cease to exist. you're trying to end yourself. To end your life. To escape life and death. To finish all your karma. Only a happy person who experienced this life totally can think of dissolusion. Because for him life pleasures doesn't matter anymore, for a happy person being happy is not a big deal. For someone who's deprived of happyness all his life, for him the highest goal is to be happy. But for someone who's in bliss and exstacy everyday, for him the highest goal is to go cease to exist or beyond life and death, or dissolving all his karma and becoming a limitless existence. You would understand this if you knew what Mukti means. It's much more then a fancy nondual experience.

Honestly i think it's a trap. Her knowledge is also half good only. There are many subtle pitfalls of logic in what she's saying and that's what is the most dengerous thing. She's like jordon peterson for me or Tony Robins. They all seems logical and have interesting ideas to offer, however all of them don't see the full picture. They lack inclusiveness and consciousness in my judgement. If you're sincere and honest to yourself, if your heart is tuned towards the truth, you will always feel who is eminating the truth and who is not. If you have other desires like making money or becoming fame then you'll get suck into cults without knowing. If you say yes to the truth, if truth is the highest value in your life then you'll begin to feel the fake ones very easily. Fake ones have that frequency that just by looking at them for 1 moment you can tell it's not the truth.

Just say I don't know instead of giving him your stupid interstellar answers It's important not to put stupid things in your child's head. If he has questions like that great. Let him think for himself. Let him grow his intelligence. Let him be constantly full of questions and questions and questions. Let him wonder about mysterious universe and nurture his attention and curiosity. Your sun will grow into a saint I don't know is much better state to be then having stupid conclusions about everything that are not even true.

I would reject the drug therapy. Question. Did your therapist look happy to you? Usually these therapist are depressed and upside down. They try to help people but they can't even help themselfs.

If you follow her you will become like her. That's how it works.

Your intention is wrong. I imagine you're doing mindfulness meditation but it's purpose is not to become calm. It's to become more and more aware of your thoughts, feelings and emotions. It's to become more aware of your identity and ego. If you want to be calm go sit in bath tub. Or do a different meditation techneque.

Wow.

No desire = the end of suffering, peace, and liberation. But what you're trying to achieve takes decades of work.

@legendary +1

Lol. Such an intense soundtrack omg

No no no. You're not everything. I am everything

Sadhguru says the same thing also

Loooool

If you get into state of nonduality that doesn't mean you're free from cycles of life and death. To brake the cycle one must dissolve all the karma. Have you been to vipassana? You'd understand what I mean because they are not trying to achieve any nondual state but to dissolve all karma, all cravings and avversions that forces this being to reincarnate.

I agree that the best gift to humans is your enlightenment, but you can also be a bus driver, who travels to enlightenment and takes passangers with him. Career-wise thing you can do is becoming for example if you're a vippassana practicioner you could become a vippassana teacher. Or if you're sadhguru follower you could become an Isha hatha Yoga teacher or any other program teacher. Like that you can find what you want to do. It depends what practices you do and who you follow.

You meditate to become more cousnious. The level of consciousness is the only thing that seperates a devil from devine. All your problems, all your suffering, everything boils down to your level of consciousness. But you don't realise that yet. Meditation is not the only good habit. Leo gives you 65good habits I would summerize into three: self-honesty, selfless activity and self-reflection which is meditation.

Well it started like this. When I started doing this kriya I realized I went a 1week without masturbating I thought okey interesting. Then I went 2 weeks without masturbating then I went 1month and after that it was it I went for 4months and I personaly thought this is it. That was the last time in my life. I thought I will go until I die without masturbating because that's how it felt the neediness and hornyness was absolutely absent. I was confident I won't masturbate again in my life. Then I stopped doing shambhavi for 3-4days because i had problems with heart and bam. I masturbated again. And don't know it is specifically designed to stop it. I think the way it works is it changes your chemistry. Thoughts are a consiquences of your chemistry. If your chemistry is blissfulness then thoughts on masturbating become impossible. They just won't come to you. Usually people want to masturbate to release stress or when they're depressed. Shambhavi removes all the stress, takes away depression and produces a blissful chemistry inside. With all this thoughts about masturbating don't even occur at all. But when you're depressed, stressout and the very chemistry is high jacked by your hormones that's it. I'm not sure. But it's common to feel very happy and alive witch is probably what is the reason behind nofap. I think maybe the kriya also balances the harmone activity, i think it is written in the discribtion as one of the benefits. This could also explain this phenomena. The kriya I'm talking about is shambhavi mahamudra from Inner Engineering program

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No no no. samyama is not a practice. It's an initiation that would unload lifetimes of karma into this lifetime. And thus your life becomes very intense like fast forward. And you learn and you grow very very fast and you dissolve the karma. That's what is so special about samyama. They say if a person gets into trouble every 6months after samyama initiation he will get into trouble every 6hours. because he is working out 100 Life times of karma all at once. Witch is a great benefit. Because if you go slowly it can take many lifetimes to dissolve everything. And on the way you might gather more karma and more karma. What they teach you in samyama is how to stay equanimous and meditate with your eyes open so when you interact with the world you are in meditative state and you go super fast and you don't gather any new karma. And every situation that happens to you puts you higher and higher and higher. And then total dissolusion. What do you think? It's like an 8fold path but much faster because there's an energy initiation being done to you that opens up life times of karma that makes the dissolving process and life very intense and fast.

@Arhattobesamyama is his final program. There's shambhavi, shoonya and then samyama. It's also like that 8fold path that focuses on dissolving karma but the way they do it is very different... Simply but sheer force of initiation they open up deep layers of karma in you and then your life becomes very intense and fast. All you have to do is stay equanimous and your karma dissolves, dissolves, dissolves... I find it very fasinating Does 8fold path has an initiation? Because sadhguru is saying unless a certain amount of energy is invested in you it will take many lifetimes to completly dissolve.

@Arhattobe interesting. But that basicly what samyama is. They say they open many lifetimes of karma in you and teach you to be in meditation with your eyes open. So that you don't gather new karma anymore. You only dissolve dissolve dissolve.What do you think? They call it Life on fast forward I like how they call it Sorry it's the first video were he talks about opening meny Life times at once through initiation in samyama. Starts at 9.30min Second video is just a mistake idk how to delete it.

@Arhattobe let me see if I follow you. The more you cultivate these 8qualities. The deeper layers of karma will come up. And when you burn all the karma then you're in perfect equanimous state. With no cravings and aversions. Did i get it right?

Interesting. I made some research on it. It's new to me. But how is doing this 8fold path will help you reach absolute no cravings no aversion state.? How will it dissolve all the karma?

On what then?