Salvijus

When somebody gives a random advice on the forum.

This. And this. I've been telling you this for a long time already. The problem is, intention to surrender is itself an effort. Your effort starts way beyond your current reach of awareness. That's why you can't stay in permenant presence because you're not even fully aware of how much unconscious ego struggling there is. If you want to be in permenant effortless presence, you must learn to observe effort as if it was an object in your mind. Then effort or no effort makes no difference anymore. Even if you're full of effort you won't lose presence.

Does the question, who am I, has many different realizations? Or is it the same realization in different degrees of comprehenshion?

Never saw a single video of them but I don't like them already ? Watch some J.Krishnamurti better. A much higher quality, authentic material. Or stay with Mooji and Spira. Everybody can fake enlightenment by saying the self is not. But peace and harmony cannot be faked. It's a sign of truth. It's a good indication that material is authentic and good quality.

The point is when one realizes that ego is illusory, total disidentification happens and limited identity gets replaced with infinity. So you can't have an ego trancendence without nondual infinite consciouness happening with it. They go together. Realisation that ego is illusory requires enourmous increase in conciousness also. Otherwise it's just intelectual.

But that's what is happening i believe. I think one day you'll realize everybody was telling the same thing you do except in a different language. Saying "I'm nothing" is very appropriate teaching which is equally as true as saying "I'm everything". But you seem to fight over "I'm everything" stance as the only true perspective even tho to say "everything is nothing" is exacly the same statement. So it's just a word game in the end. And unfair criticism of many schools for using different wording i believe.

Lol ? I still think it's a word game ? yes I can say poo is eternal because energy is eternal. E=mc^2. Nothing ever dies. Everything is energy and that energy is god. Everything is god. Nothing ever dies. Energy never dissapears it just changes form. And the energy itself is always eternal. That way it make sense. To me this is just a wording problem. I feel buddhists are talking about the same thing just in a different language and I wanted to fight for their side a little bit to leverage the field i find your criticism of budhhism to be a bit unfair sometimes. To me "I am nothing" and "I am everything" means exacly the same thing. Edit. Nothingness is also energy. A primordial energy. Everything is energy. Everything is god. Everything is eternal.

@Leo Gura That's nice. I get this actually. Yeah it's true. It's true. I agree with everything you sayed I forgot what we're debating about ? The only thing I would put it differently is the wording. I wouldn't call changing impermenant reality - eternal. By definition it doesn't make sense to me. "Every moment is eternal even if it is fluid" yeah but it is nothingness that is eternal not the dancing energy. Dancing energy is temporary. That would be my only difference in percepective. Edit. And yes dancing energy is also nothingness because it comes from nothingness. And are of the same nature. It is one. But somehow it is not eternal. Because by definition if it is changing it is impermenant and not eternal.

@Leo Gura So maybe it's a matter of wording? Perhaps you're using the word absolute in the different meaning then most teachers. I believe nothingness is absolute, and never changing and perfect. Everything else is a flux. It comes from nothingness. The source of all things is nothingness. Thus changeful reality is not essential to what I am. Because when change happens in my essential nature nothing ever happens. Nothing ever happens to nothingness. Even if the entire creation would cease, nothingness would remain the same, thus it's absolute and changful reality is temporary and not essential to me. This makes sense to me at least.

@Leo Gura Are you saying that there is no such thing as impermenant? That everything lasts forever? That there is no such thing as change?

What about the argument that if my hand dissapear I'm still here, witnessing my hand dissapearing? Wouldn't that prove that I'm much more then just the hand? Yes hand is a manifestation of consciouness but it's perhaps not the essence of what I am. All things that can perish are not essential to my being. So yes, everything is one, but not everything is eternal. Only nothingness is eternal and absolute and never changes and has no states or levels. And I am that. Other things are temporary, transient, has levels and what not and are still me, but not essentially. That's how I would frame it at least. Edit. Manifest and unmanifest. One is eternal another is temporary. Both are me. Yet one is essential another is not so. Thus, saying I'm nothing that is bound by time is quite appropriate imo.

I would take 1inch growth in spirit and consciouness, over 1000x god realization experiences and no embodyment.

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Same way you can't achieve permenant peace through anti-depressants. Same way you can't achieve permenant high energy by drinking coffee everyday. Same way you can't achieve permenant peace by smoking hash. Same with alcohol, nootropics, drugs, steroids... you name it. Whatever substance you're using it will only give temporary results and will actually make things worse for you in the long run. Psychedelics are a bit more difficult to comment about because it is possible to use them positively. But largely from my own personal observation people don't get anywhere with these substances. I know they deny this full throttle. Yet I still can't help but see things that way...

Lol. Maybe he should persuade you instead ?

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Yeah, yea, same. It's just a random number that came to me, don't take it seriously ?

@Raptorsin7 He's not fake imo. That's the most important thing. 95% enlightenment claimers are very fake in my judgment. But he's real imo.

@Raptorsin7 Levels definitely. I don't believe in enlightenment anymore. Only spiritual progress is real. No he's not a perfect buddha. But he's pretty cool. Worthy of attention. Has good things to teach.

@Raptorsin7 yeah I resonate with him also. I think he's legit awake. (Soberly) with great source of advice. He's one of the few people I consider authentic when it comes to awakening. He does coaching also, something that might be relevant for you. In that previous video I sent (It's pretty long I know) he talks about his kundalini experience and how it unfold. It really inspired me to get one of those transmittions myself, but it's not available in europe so I forgot about it. But good for us people i guess.

@Raptorsin7 i don't know about the difference, but I'm pretty sure it works online also. (There could be some exceptions tho )

There's a siddhayoga kundalini transmittion events happening in us. I wanted to attend one of those but it's not available in europe. Saw this video long time ago, somebody shared it on the forum. I liked it. I think it's a genuine and very powerful place. Could be an option. Online transmittions also work but I don't know to what extent.

Grow in conciousness a little bit. It would solve the situation by itself without your concious control even imo.

This queation can be expanded beyond just your brother to the whole humanity. "how to act in a way that will help others" and there is no logical answer to it really that could be put into a box or a technique. There's no technique. Appropriate uplifting action comes spontanuously when that intelligence beyond thought is cultivated. That's how a sage functions. Yes. You have to become Jesus Christ to help your brother. ? okey I went too far with this one just for fun. But you get the point i think.

That's not good enough imo. There are literally infinite number of exceptions to every advice. Even if O was to say "show him compassion" there're like infinite number of exceptions to not do that and when it is not appropriate to do that. How will you logic your way out infinite possibilities? The wise way is to function from a place of intelligence that is beyond thought. But it's a far out thing to say, I know. It's not satisfying answer to your question probably. But I would argue that it's the only answer there is...