Vestibuowl

So then would you say the existence of relative beauty exists purely and only in survival, and in absolute beauty there is not an existing distinction. I can get onboard with a non distinction in an absolute beauty, but sure some kind of idea of "the beautiful" and the not can exist outside a framework of survival, and survivor bias. or no.

Sure and I may agree on this point even, but I'm simply digging at the root of say the existence of an aversion, and what substantiates that. I give you a steaming pile of shit and vomit, or I give you a diverse platter of ripe tropical fruits, perhaps a bad example, given one may not nurture the body and one may, and the aversion comes from the body and its innate want for the nourishment it intuits it recieves from the fruits and not the pile of shit, and this is also based on the platform of this current reality you find yourself in, but the absolute is here right now. You get the picture though. and if theres an absolute beauty, at what level are you able to fully point to the break down of this aversion, and the apparent pull towards certain beauties over others, if its all absolute beauty in full. Like I said I am merely pondering on this, not caught up on this, and you can see if you analyze this honestly why a puzzle forms, more so in the face of how one could convey the idea of there being no real existing preference on the plane of the absolute. or where the distinction begins of "the beautiful" and the not, illusory or not. Easy to just say its all beautiful, easy to maybe even accept and see this as reality, but breaking it down bit by bit to understand what we see as beautiful and what we see as not and why this happens is an important area of philosophical contemplation. and I simply asked how do ''we'' understand this, properly and deeply. because someone who maybe isn't highly concious isnt going to get anywhere with a statement like oh its all beautiful, you just cant see it. You say "you" gravitate towards beauty, but what is this "you" gravitating towards what, if not just ALL. If just all then no gravity to gravitate.

the puzzlement comes with the apparent distinction of the beautiful and the not

This is something I often ponder, given the non dual nature of God and reality, how do we understand deeply the gravity towards the Beautiful and the apparent preference towards "The beautiful". I understand the beauty of the horror but I think you know what I'm talking about so I dont have to elaborate too much.

Beautiful, Thanks for sharing. I can relate to your encounter with this spark, and too with the great mirror. Bless

If you've ever smoked a sub breakthrough dose of NN DMT, and gazed upon a clear sky full of stars, do you mind attempting to share what you may have seen and or experienced. Words are very difficult and I know you wont be able to capture everything if anything at all, but I am curious to ask about anyone's experience regardless. I myself smoked a 25mg dose last week, two big tokes, out of a glass pipe, at midnight under an un light polluted sky. the experience I had is practically impossible to recount of course, but there was one curious aspect that I wanted to share. First of all, the stars became much much closer than I had ever had them before. Often when I do DMT my world is contained in this fish bowl of sorts, with pillars stretching out into the space in a room of sorts. As I witnessed the stars, now closer than ever, and within this fish bowl, the constellations seemed to form "temples" in 3d within this room of pillars, and it felt as though I was in contact with ancient Gods, it felt like a council, and I was on full display for them. I was particularly fixed on the constellation of Orion's belt. As I came down I also noticed still a "ceiling" to the stars where they were connected on this 3d black tessellation pattern which visually was rather interesting and gestured to a past experience I had. When I used to do LSD there was always a web that id see connecting the stars, and every time Id ask people who were tripping if they saw it , and usually they do. This though was something MORE. There is so much more to this than I can word but it was a very powerful and curious trip and I just want to hear what other people may have seen when ingesting this molecule and beholding our good friends in the sky. Also this is my first post here, this has just been on my mind this week and I figured this is a good place to share and maybe read some other recounts. Not necessarily strictly DMT either. Thanks for reading. Much Love.

1st time I ever did real acid, the trip was going on but nothing too crazy happening just kind of buzzing out and tuning into the magic and the mystery, I ask myself "okay, I took this for some reason, what is it I'm looking for here? go on I'm ready, show me." Then boom, Like a flash of thunder and lightning, a light engulfs my mind and then my entire being, and I had become the light of God, the very substance and base of all things, it was my identity, and it was pervading through all things. and it was consciousness.

I used to engage in gardening and landscaping for money, but injury has put that aside for now. Ive also spent a lot of time volunteering and cooking for people, feeding people is a great purpose, and gives something to do. otherwise I spend a lot of time in life staying on top of various health issue, little energy for much else sometimes. I aim to show love to those I interact with, reflecting the light of consciousness. this feels a simple yet solid purpose. I also like to spend time deconstructing my self and my thoughts, and going on journeys with said thoughts. At times I wish I had more practical things to engage with. I love to read about peoples psychedelic experience and talk with people interested in the subject, probably for me the most interesting thing going in this world. And recently dabbling a bit in DMT hehe Its all about Love. So that really is the life purpose. and having a laugh, because its not so serious.

Absolute hermit for sure

Ultimately, I just want lasting peace and truth. On a more ego based platform, I want less pain and sickness so that I can be more capable physically. And then I just want to go surfing as much as I can haha. wanting to Eating well and have true human connections is somewhere in there too.