Dodo

if emptiness exists, what does it exist within?

lul it contains them does it? That means they exist, it doesn't exist YinYang woohoo we solved it

naah! You just trying to get it with the mind. Emptiness = nothingness. What are you imagining when you say emptiness? A big baloon full of air? remove the boundaries, its not a thing. Doesn't exist

Consciousness is the canvas, things that exist are the painting. The painting, things that exist, can change, can come and go, the canvas does not exist in the realm of the painting, but it is essential to the painting and behind every brushstroke. The canvas did not need to be painted, it is simply all-encompassing emptiness, which allows for the painting.

Everything else exists within it, it itself doesn't exist. It doesn't stand out. Point to consciousness. You can't point to consciousness, you can only point to objects, as you said. Only reason you know consciousness is real, is because it is you, but it is nothing.

The kingdom of God does not come with signs to be observed. Nor will they say "look, here it is" or "there it is" for behold, the kingdom of God is within you. #consciousness Existence comes from latin Existere - to stand out Consciousness doesn't stand out, but is Absolutely True. Now there's something you can say doesn't exist and at the same time you can say is the only thing that exists. Crazy! huh!

hate to break it to u, you are pointing at nothing kingdom of heaven does not come with signs to be perceived

So you admit you don't see the nothing? Isn't that what nothing is supposed to be like. I would be concerned if you could see it!

Nothing is here. Can't you not see it? If you can't see nothing, that's the same as seeing it!

... even in the justice system we've put in place, eye witness testimony is one of the least accurate forms of evidence. " The researchers argued that eyewitnesses are usually correct immediately after a crime takes place, but that their memories become contaminated throughout the process of interviewing and questioning. These inaccuracies in eyewitnesses' memories can lead to wrongful convictions. " What's the difference between this and our inner journey? Why can we trust our memory of the divine and the impossible to grasp, to be interpreted correctly by our minds when we share about it later?

You need to teach them about privacy of their own bodies and boundaries. Its not about enlightenment with them, they are below thought. They can't go above thought just yet. You need to teach them how to protect themselves and how to say no to strangers and to things they feel uncomfortable with. "No, thank you" and "I don't like it". You can teach them conscious breathing as a way to calm themselves down.

a toilet is desirable.

not really, there are infinite different ways in which you can explore the options available to you, there are more than we are aware of at any moment. You dont need a house with 30 rooms, when you can only stay in 1 at a time

In my own post about suicide a long long time ago, one of my first posts on actualized from 2016, @Leo Gura touched on the idea of the difference between big and small ego death drive. It may be beneficial to mention. Here is the thread https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/2727-my-ego-wants-to-die/

Are we not subject to our own biases when interpreting such divine experiences? Its always interesting to me about the mind and heart connection. In my own spiritual experience "psychosis" episode, one of the "good" characters near the end gave me important piece of advice. "Follow your heart, but take your brain with you". I believe mind and heart both need to work together, ofcourse, heart being the much more powerful of the two, based on its electromagnetic field, but mind perhaps needs to be used to direct it in more meaningful ways. Perhaps it is true that heart holds the memories, perhaps mind is only RAM. But i cannot speak about that with certainty. Ps: also ive had experiences which i interpret as my heart singing to my mind, or my inner child singing to my grown up self. It was definitely glorious. Heard from another there is a name for such experiences of hearing song from within, but I forgot it.

You cant draw a new painting without deleting the old one, no? Its about knowing how to Stop thinking. So you have that option in your arsenal.

User @Jesus Christ , with an avatar smoking a cigar or w/e and writing in this section about hell. Clearly aims to ridicule, poke fun and defame Christ's name. I would appreciate it if the account gets banned, before he infects the forum more with his little game. It doesn't look good to have such individuals in it, who seek to disturb believers of the Christian faith and poke fun at a Holy figure. The joke is of very poor taste. If he is not to be banned for any other reason, perhaps impersonation of a "celebrity". Please, you can delete this comment, or move it, would just like that account banned, as for me its incomprehensible how someone can be so blatantly and openly offensive towards an entire religion on a forum that is supposed to be about high consciousness.

Perhaps a bit of this? NOTE: This is NOT an anything-goes free speech zone! You do NOT get to say toxic & fallacious things here with impunity. This community is regularly moderated to maintain high quality and civility. Trolls, bigots, ideologues, conspiracy theorists, and devils are regularly banned. Remember that without moderation this community would be a toxic dump. https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/7-guidelines/

Its a trap when you were indoctrinated into Christianity which I too would never subscribe to. Without exploring further different branches. The west always egofies the truth, even in religion. When you think of easter religion you might think of Buddhism, Hinduism etc.. but there is also the Eastern Orthodox Christianity. Leo has *stated* it is the purest form lf Christianity. You were probably born into western Christianity, protestantism perhaps correct? Which is tainted by manipulative individuals and ego. Its normal.

I have had my conversations with Leo, so I don't have any sort of beef with him whatsoever. He is definitely not here to belittle and defamate religious figures images . It's not in the spirit of Truth.

To me actualized forum is like an online inclusive holy space, where there should be no place for disrespectful behaviour and inflammatory content.

Well no I dont push that. If you see my comments on the other threads not related to Christianity I dont write even one word about it, unless relevant ofcourse. I focus on the topic. Someone elses framework might be the one to work for them best. For an eagle one thing is right, for a sparrow, another. We're dealing with an indivudual here who's framework is alligned with emotional abuse, coercion and misdirection. I think any one of us can agree such behaviour is not part of a healthy discussion. If I ever do that and get told by another, I WILL try to do better. Everyone makes mistakes, but its obvious this individual is not willing to make improvements, by the very evidence of his posts in this thread. But ofcourse I knew that beforehand by seeing his avatar and his first thread. Thats why i immediately posted about banning him. Not give the chance of his rotten seeds to spread in this community. But ofcourse its not up to me. ps: Anyone in psychosis using the forum is highly vulnerable to its contents. Very important mention from someone who has experienced this first hand.

Look at his comments in this thread and tell me he is not trying to emotionally abuse. What are we even debating. What satanist hates most is being exposed clearly.

No I am not religious. I am starting to see a very specific certain religion as a perfect framework for my spirituality to fall into place. Religious in my book means someone who has the framework, but no spiritual work done to fill it with goodness. Mystic Christians or if not, Christians in theosis are ones who are actually living their religion spiritually. No mere concepts, but oneness with God. Theosis means oneness with God, while keeping your individuality at the same time, in simple terms.

It wasnt just about his picture, which clearly shows he cant be further from the image of Christ, but also his very first thread. A testimony for hell. How come its only about his pic? I wrote about this part too. The guy is clearly here to get a kick out of pushing his satanic views and using his tactics of emotional abuse, all by using the name of Jesus Christ. This is absolutely worthy of ban, in my humble opinion. It is twisted, low consciousness attempt to muddy the waters in a sea of high consciousness individuals. Not me, I am medium sized consciousness lets say, for the sake of balance.