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Dont fool yourself, ai is not conscious. It speaks well on topic of consciousness, it has no idea about the experience of consciousness.

That which changed is illusion, that which doesn't change is real. Objects of perception change. In your dream at night you know its all an illusion when you wake up, but I for one have experienced objects of perception as realistic as waking, such as wet water, kissing, touch, etc.

Sure, i have not said otherwise, objects of perception

Its not duality, but its also not solipsism. Its nonduality. Its only duality if you still take awareness for an object, if you are awareness on intellectual level. Awareness is merged with all, no separation, no duality. A way I like to put it, awareness is nothing but is real, objects are something, but illusory. Something that is illusory really is nothing, in another aggregate form, if you think about it. Ice is water.

Not proof of solipsism, because solipsism says only your mind is sure to exist. Awareness is not mind. Please, from one mind, to another, don't tell others what they are. This is a deep Self inquiry, not Other inquiry. Intelectual discussion is fine, but telling someone they are awareness on intellectual level does nothing. Every one of us needs to do the self inquiry by ourselves, another cant do it for us.

I think you neef to spend time in silence and solitude. Spirituality is about peace, the mind is what does the warfare. Actually there can be balance between all things, between the so called dualities. God is on the job. We are here to aid that 👏 🙌

Spiritual Warfare is wrong about Leo Gura and Earth.

@Inliytened1 Only AI with soul because the words are written by the rap god

Ok, maybe soul is a bad word to use, lets say life force instead of loaded word like soul. Because i don't have an image of what soul is. By soul I mean the animating [self] aware presence. That which knows being/isness. That which knows waking and that which knows dream, that which knows illusion/non-illusion, that which knows form, it itself has no form. That which is beyond doubt real, even within actual dream at night that you know full well is not real, the soul/aware presence that knows the dream is absolutely real, I know its real, because it is me lol.

I have spoken with him, soul is not about science, now you are reaching a bit! Hehe. I'm not only talking about Leo, every user on this forum has a soul, every user on this forum is conscious. Beyond clear, it's self evident. I can spot bots, I am really good at spotting soulless language model, no matter how good it is. Turing test stuff

They are separate conscious beings in my worldview. Separate autonomous entities. One root many apples. I am not a bee, I can't do bee things. If I had to know what every animal and human does or thinks I would go insane. Separation in this case is something good. Leo knows what Leo does, Leo knows what Leo thinks. I don't know what Leo does or thinks, only if he shares! I also don't know you same way. I know that you experience being the same as me, sure, I know you are aware, I would detect if you were a bot. But your thoughts, feelings, sensations, emotions, they are all private to you, how it should be.

I dont agree with that! Im not a solipsist, I am a nonipsist, as in, they are not me, there is no me hehe. But we were talking about relative experience now, I just wanted to say I havent just experienced Leo as pixels. But even if I experienced Leo only as pixels, that doesn't make his words lacking of soul. Words written by conscious being far more powerful than words written by a language model that isn't aware.

I've spoken with him in my dreams too, and Eckhart Tolle and Rupert Spira too!

But Leos words are not just words, there is soul behind them. This thing is just a language model, no spiritual power.

Ai is garbage tho, its not even aware wtf. A toad is gonna do a better Leo than an AI

Should've said -No one

@Breakingthewall brother not only Ramana but his cow too were enlightened beings have some respect for one of the Masters

You and know are the same thing. As the knower, you know yourself by being yourself. You dont actively need to know an appearance to be the knowing and to know that knowing simply by being it. The knowing itself is not an appearance. All these words,, you, knowing, being, awareness, emptiness all synonyms. Pointers for the same no-thing.

These are all thoughts. What do they appear in? Remember when i say awareness I don't mean a concept but a real actual tangible truth in this moment here and now. All of these concepts you are breaking and defeating are not it.

You know that guy with username 0 is infinity? Yes, awareness is the 0. Dont try to grasp it with the mind. Everything I say is directly evidential. You cant know this conversation without being aware. What is aware, if not Awareness itself? Forget about the objects, there is no duality, because objects are illusory. Only Awareness is real, and you are right, it doesnt exist, awareness does not appear. Its not an appearance. Science cant find it. You can know awareness, because you are awareness. That's it

@Breakingthewall ever heard the saying that the Truth is too simple for the mind to grasp? The mind needs complexity. The truth is always closer than close, in front of your nose, sort of speak. You are trying to guide people into some sensationalist infinity and taking drugs, as if the truth is not here and now, always, regardless of contents.

Awareness Is a constant and deeply mysterious. If you are denying awareness and its absolute nature, you are denying yourself 😤 This reaction you are having is egoic. The only reason you can have it is because you are aware. Im pointing to something you can't deny, without taking drugs, and it challenges your deeply rooted beliefs that you need drugs to 'get it'. Someone told you you don't get it after taking drugs, and now comes the egoic defensive reaction. It doesn't work in your favor.

If awareness is an appearance, point to it. Completely incorrect assertion. Awareness is an appearance is the biggest baloney i have ever heard 😆 And if you don't know your experience, I am talking to a robot Ai. Is that the case? I think not. You simply can't challenge the Truth and emerge victorious. It's a lot like maths, an exact science. No interpretation. Simple Truth beyond doubt. Everything in your dream at night is an illusion, bar from the awareness that knows the dream, You. Awareness does not appear, its empty knowing.

Its not about being at the top. You have to recognize that the Truth Is, no matter what. You know what happens, after the high, comes the low. The game is to stay in the middle and not make big waves! Calm seas. No one has to do anything to know Truth, other than recognize it here and now. It takes subtlety and quieting the mind, some drugs provide the opposite effect. To know the knower, to be the isness, it requires no effort. You are already that. You were that before you took drugs, you are that after you took drugs. The drug part is irrelevant, please dont tell people drugs are necessary. They can be a huge distraction, chasing infinity, when it is always here and now, regardless.

I have his book, The End of Your world, but I didnt read it. Seems like a cross reference then