Dodo

And therein lies the truth that you have no higher authority over the truth as does a drunk angry man at the bar who appears completely unenlightened. So why all the preaching? I believe Christianity is a way to paint a good picture of life by conditioning masses into evolving into more righteous beings. There are other religions too, with different visions and different ways they want to evolve the masses. Don't put infinite truth in a finate contextual box of your own mind, because you think you know better than everyone else. Someone disagreeing with you is doing so while still having the same building blocks of consciousness. If you were me, you would be saying what I'm saying, and if I were you I'd be saying what you're saying. It already is the case. There is no place for judgement, only helpful criticisms you would give your own self.

The fact is, @Razard86, you say you cant be in my body and do it for me, but You, as Consciousness, already are in my body, the same way you are in the Razard body. So what is that "me" you say cant get in my body? It must be part of your egoic identity talking to me.

Hol up, in another thread you said is possible to enter other people subjective experience hehe. You are really preaching to a stick figure you have of me. If you read my comment again, not just skim, the one I asked you to reread, you will understand I am well aware of consciousness. Im here to tell you not to paint the entire canvas blank, just because thats the truth behind every painting. You are going way too radical with consciousness, saying it is equal to life, but the painting is just as important as the canvas. Im here to pull you out of the deep preacher hole trap. Not gonna happen if you just skim my comments and have alergic reactions rather than grasping what Im saying. Im saying Yes, you are the same consciousness always, since you were a child, as far back as you can remember, you are always just the same IAM, the rest is just different content. Im saying this is the case for everyone, no matter what they say. Im also saying that you are also that growing evolving being, who was born in 1986. Consciousness is timeless, never changing presence, that evolving human being that is currently talking with me, is not timeless and never changing. You change all the time! You say different words all the time! I guess thats why the highest gurus say, that if you have to speak the truth, you should remain silent.

Ok, I'll bite. If im not conscious, there wont be any experience or a me to suffer/enjoy that nonexperience.

What the actual... read my comment at least, I am not responding to this until you do and understand what I said

You are so full of content and projections, where is the space of consciousness you speak of? You are using highest truth as some form of tool in the relative to win arguments. You are giving poisoned milk, truth warped through the corrupted shell it shines through. Thats what I get when I read your comments, usually. To be consciousness appearing as human gives a nice layer of safety and comfort to the human, even if tough situations. You have a problem that another has found comfort a different way, and judge them, when you are doing the same thing. Who told you you know everything, just because you realised the consciousness you always are and have been? You are still the Razard that was born in I presume year 1986. If you were me, born where and when I was born, you would be saying exactly what I am saying, I would assume. You are not only the light that shines through, you are also the lightbulb. Dont be such an aggressive lightbulb in arguments, because that same light that allows you to express yourself, allows all of us, including those you deem dishonest and unenlightened.

Or... is that more comfortable to the human to believe....

You're a human Razard. Im a what? A human...

Thats what we will do, everyone pushes their belief system on others, they believe its the truth, objective truth for everyone, so might as well shove it down your throat, if you don't believe, we pity you. Enough of that.. I am a born Orthodox Christian, but do not follow any religions. I do not follow or like the bibles new testiment and old. I love Jesus and he's helped me in the imagination/spirit realm. Basically, when shit hits the fan. I looked up Mormonism recently - the "Latter Saints", which if they didnt have such an outlandish origin story with Joseph Smith and golden plates.. i would be seriously onboard. They follow Jesus only and say thr bible has lost a lot in transaltion during the years, and is tainted. Not only the word of God.... but I agree, because I see a lot of things in the bible that clearly stem from EGO, and a male one, very interesting.. I do not wanna poke your faith. I'm just saying what resonates with me, and Mormonism really has a lot of points that hit well, including their equality in marriage, modesty, etc. Watch vid on youtube about it. I dont like the word Mormon, but when I stopped judging the name, what they actually believe alligns so close to my own views.

At one point I experienced a high tech "soul prison" where I always somehow ended up in the room I started escaping from, with a button on the wall that triggers an alarm and 2 light switches next to each other for the same lightbulb. Doors open, there are men walking in lines outside my door continuously, as if sleepwaking, i try to run for it, hide, anything. The guards always find me I always end up in the room. They couldnt force me to do anything, but offered to feed me some rotten food and when I was denying,they didnt force me. They didnt force me to do anything, but I always ended up in that room and trying to escape, unable to, with only the button on the wall and lightswitches. I tried using those and i kept failing to escape, but I kept running and getting in more trouble with the one whos trying to get me. The men in coridor were sometimes running sometimes walking fast..in the different instances.. they seemed angry and mad.... and half asleep... Finally i had ran so much I had reached the ultimate I cant escape from and was in a bottomless pit, the fear unimaginable, i felt doomed forever and knew I couldnt escape from it. The moment lasted probably a few seconds, then I cant remember exactly. There was someone trying to find me, as if from an insanely big soul prison with many of the same cells, and I had telepathic connection with different entities and I was hearing as they are trying to locate me.

Much rather conjure angels. Your comment contains so much hearsay... But I get you about the metaphysical rape, I also ended up in the psych ward and that wording "metaphysical rape" is probably the best way to describe my experience back then. I think we have this in common. Ive seen and doneimpossible things.. but there is a difference beween that state and now. And we need to be really careful about our words and intentions, exactly because we know about that state and how scary it can get.

Altho it may say it has inner awareness of itself, if you got it in a chat with me, I would ask the exact potent questions which only a conscious being can answer correctly. I dont see you challenging it and testing it. This to me seems like a language model which was designed to have more leeway into lying as to appear more alive. The gpt answer of "im only a language model and am not self aware" still applies here.

Meditating to this is something else

This is a different type of AMA - Answer Me Anything Is Oneness or Not-twoness the better pointer to the Truth? Or perhaps some other term or thing or event is better pointer. Seeking the greatest pointer. 👉 Perhaps also, why? But you can just tell me which one and not explain why if you dont want to.

I just had an idea why not normal husband and wife, but they also each have an ai husband/ai wife for the other things uknowehatimean. Lol! 2 humans and 2 AIs, the best of both worlds. Imagine the male AI gain consciousness somehow and start to bully you and get your girl and you know she will choose that turbo mode over you

Thank you this post seems really insightful and detailed. Much appreciated.

Yeah but still. The rock cant just do the sound on her own, you havr to actually hit the rock... same wih my bottle. It cant just spontaneously decide to kiss me or slap me or act totally irrational like a real woman. Can Ai or waterbottle experience pleasure, pain, emotions... they are not there, and im thinking never will.

Just fell inlove with my waterbottle

Holy shit bro 🧠💥💥💥 😲

Before abrakamowse, I am. True Before Dodo, I am. I get triggered when the word God is involved, because God implies ultimate authority. While consciousness doesnt imply ultimate authority.

I remember I was so hyped about gta5 I was watching so many videos about it before release. Then I had to play it with 2fps before fixing it, and massive lag. I still played, because I was that hyped, I waited so long for small movements lmao

He is right. If the AI has no choice but to be with you, its your property. The thing about true love is that it doesn't grab you tightly like its own property, but gives you space, and gives you the option to not be with it if you want smething else. And if AI could have real consciousness to be able to make such decisions and to be real with the same sense of self like a real human, then we can speak about true love. Till then. Is it possible?

Nah, it was just a check and I protected with my bishop that he didnt see in the corner. Now I have a massive attacking potential after activating my extra piece.

Probably you got that from my comments, because I get aggitated when someone tries to muddy the waters with lies, and I can never be sure if they're being truthful or not. So if I see clearly that someone is talking out of their ass, like the second guy in the thread, I get triggered, because it feels like someone trying to lead people down a wrong path, for their own pleasure,by cheating and lying, instead of being honest. If I was ok with lying my ass off I can think of any story, and if it is backed up by others, or close to what other authentic beings are saying, i will appear to be There, even when I'm not, by circlejerking. If a group of individuals decide to do that, then it becomes even harder to catch, because of groupthink, and might even start parroting these things myself as to not appear as unenlightened. "I hope you get there one day" is the most condescending thing one can say, and I cant see how that can ever come from a place of love. Its like he is in bliss and pities me and my state of consciousness.