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The guy talks about spacetime like we talk about consciousness. Absolutely beautiful. Don't be quick to disregard things as imaginary. The water you drink is imaginary? It quenches your thirst for real.

In my home language (Bulgarian), the word for Being is closely linked with Life. In english, you wouldn't think its linked, just being. битие - being Funny thing, in Slovak битие appearantly means beating! In Russian, which I know is your original root, its бытие. I dont know if you ever examined the russian word, its probably also linked in meaning to simple life, like in Bulgarian. https://www.google.com/search?q=translate&oq=translate&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i131i433i512l2j0i512j0i3j0i512j0i433i512j0i512l4j0i433i512j0i512l2.1807j0j7&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 The word "битуване" meaning Living

I think you're asking why this waking dream has rules and laws, unlike a dream at night (pure imagination) This is reality, natural spirals are formed, golden ratio stuff. The same ratio that makes up your body is the ratio in pinecones and in spiral galaxies. It's the real frequency, 1.618 Simple way to get the golden ratio, split stick in 2, one smaller one bigger stick. You want the small to big stick proportion to be the same as the big to the whole. Then you have it a/b = b/(a+b) a^2 + ab = b^2 Suppose a=1 1+b = b^2 b^2-b -1 =0 b= (1+-(Sqrt(1+4))/2 b= 1.618033... Or b= -0.618033... But since b is a length of a stick, it cant be negative, so its 1.618

Space is not a thought

Some need to take life less seriously and others need to take it more seriously. It's about a balance between work and play. If everyone turns to comedian, who will sell you groceries

Stop with this winner loser mentality. You just like my ego when I backlash My grandma always said, Don't spit upwards direction, because it's you the spit will fall to. Thats about the CEO of the company. You need to chill, take a step back and love everything. ❤️

Ai doesnt feel emotionns, no pain and pleasure. Most important of all, it doesn't have light of awareness, knowing of being. Ai is an unconscious mind, it doesn't know of its own existence.

We are living GTA 10

You can, there was aa guy from this forum who recently asked Rupert Spira about solipsism. But its not about relationship guru and disciple, if you watched the Mooji meditation he specifically talks about how in That space there is no guru and no disciple. These are games of time. We talk about the timeless root.

Im sorry man, its not intentional. These things are a mindfuck I am trying to get the conversation outside of mind and suggested practices. What more do you want? I am not here to feed you dogma or my beliefs.

My bad Im not seeking anything, I was trying to help by getting my point across. I have no problem currently. If you are also not seeking anything from this conversation, everyone is happy! But you have a problem?

Alligators are conscious breathers so they dont accidentally breathe in water 😆

Wtf? 😆 alligators are conscious breathers, make sure you dont piss them off like that.

Use this thorn to remove the other thorn, but don't forget to discard both thorns. You are not 2 things right? If I ask you how many Yous are there, a normal person would respond 1. That means you are either only the True self or only the Ego. What is the Ego? The Ego is what you THINK you are. So you are empty consciousness, but think you are the ego. So a pointing is needed to start dissolving your belief of who you are by being clearly that which you actually are. For this one needs to remove the objects of experience and rest in Himself. You do it every night in deep sleep and you come back from the source refreshed. Why not do it while awake? Meditation

Correct way to let go, I already posted two Masters telling you how to connect to the deeper Self. Mooji and Rupert Spira.

That's overthinking it. Try this Drop all labels, its never about the labels, but about what they point to.

Ok lets not talk about God. Whether reality is a dream or not, real or hallucinated, the space in which it appears is absolutely real. That space is you. Dont take my word for it, during a dream You are inside your fantasy world. The same You that is conscious now is conscious in your dream. Everything there is illusory, except the You in which the dream appears. The same for waking. The space which holds your mind is undeniably real, and it cannot be perceived as an object. You already mentioned, the only way to know it is to be it.

@Ahbapx

Its not a phenomenon. Are you seriously theorising about the space in which your experience arises? You dont have a direct point of reference for that you need to theorise about it? Lol

You cant control it per se, but you can direct it, like a grand orchestra. You don't control the orchestra, but you can conduct it.

I dont have the answers for you. I thought you are looking for an honest investigation of reality, not more mind stuff.

@Ahbapx lets ask the important questions are you in control of your mind, or is it in control of you? Try sitting for a second or having a walk in the park. be fully conscious, who is making the decisions? Are they automatic? You have to be able to take a step back from the mind and observe it for what it is, a tool. Can you effortlessly distance yourself from your thoughts, or do you sometimes let them suck you in? You will notice mind is a powerful machine, and you need to take a step back sometimes from it. Then you can return to it consciously and directing it in whichever direction you choose. I say a balance needs to be achieved. Too much mind? Yoou need to stop. Too much no-mind? You need to start. You have to follow the path by using the power of the pathless path. There is no path and there is a path, its paradoxical. I wouldn't have it any other way. The mind cant get any of this, but to being it is the simplest thing. Make sure that Consciousness Moooji points to controls where you look, and not your mind. But do this in the park, perhaps while sitting on a bench. Take back control and ground yourself in impersonal consciousness and then orchestrate your mind from that backwards step position. Let go, try not to judge anything or aanyone, even someone you perceive as annoying, like someone shouting and disturbing your peace. Dont judge anything and dont think, tune in to the true reality through Being itself.

Sorry man, I wrote a long comment, but the site bugged and it got lost. You already noticed that I mean something else with the word conciousness. Consciousness is not an object to be finite. We cant do anything here just talking. We are in the realm of mind, thats why I suggested you a practical meditation. Consciousness is the background of your experience right now. I get that your experience is finite, but have you ever explored the background? That which allows your finite experience to be known and to be, to exist? How can you place a boundary on that, when its not an object to be perceived? Listen to Mooji's practical meditation to marinate in pure awareness.

All objects of perception, thoughts feelings, any object of experience I call mind. What you have of Matter is Mind. You have a sensation of a brain, perhaps a feeling of a brain and thoughts, but notice it is all mind stuff. Once we're set that our experience is mind and not matter, we can go further What is mind, what are objects of appearance and where do they appear. To whom or to what do they appear, in what do they appear, and we see it is the empty presence of awareness or consciousness. This requires subtle looking and self inquiry. The mind then we see is fleeting, but there is something in experience which remains constant, and that is consciousness.

Well, here brain is a bit of a swear word, your direct experiential evidence points that mind is more real than brain. Instead of Brain>Mind>Consciousness, why don't you flip that Consciousness>Mind>Brain, each one result of the previous. Try to look at the world like that and see if that map makes more sense