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You have to think about others too, in the large scale, is it going to help if everyone has huge ego and we eventually kill ourselves, even though we live moment to moment, or is it better for people to have 0 or close to 0 ego so that wars do not happen and we thrive? Like lets say you can have your big bad ego and still live in the moment and feel awesome whatever happens etc, but think about the big scale of things. I know ultimately nothings is good or bad, but as humans there is good and bad from our perspective, and we want to do favourable things for our species. If the individual can be without ego and feel as happy in the moment as a person with ego, then it's just wrong for humanity's sake to keep the ego in the system. Cheers. That's my perspective of things.

Lol, why am I wasting my *time* with this. You are twisting my words, I have never asked you to prove you're enlightened, your ego picked it up. Do you see the problem with having an ego? Conflict (if I didn't have an ego, it would be long over, if you didnt have, it would be long over). I didn't even say that you have to prove it. All I said a million posts ago is I do not believe you are enlightened. You completely warped my words and maybe we should stop chit-chatting as it is not leading us anywhere. You are the one on the high horse and also you have painted a wrong picture of my in your mind and are attacking it. Good on you and your enlightenment "buddy".

My friend, you're doing the same or do you not see the hypocrisy here. I am not the one who claims to be enlightened. I do still have the sense that it is all personal. And it looks like you do too by the way you acted all through this discussion.

That's cool, that's your opinion and your reality, don't try to shove it on me. You are a rose trying to tell another rose that it isnt doing something right. No such thing

I don't consider Christianity as spirituality, I consider it a religion. I have always been an atheist and one can say I still am.

Nice comment, but what if (in my case) I see that all they are talking about is the same thing. All of those teachings I can see they are talking about the exact same thing from their different angles and it seems pretty solid to me what they are pointing at. Btw, I am from Bulgaria, then I lived few years of my life in England, then I moved back in Bulgaria, and now I am going back to England. So I am not that Western. Bulgarians have different culture, so don't put me in common denominator - not that anyone should. (This last point is more towards Socrates than you)

This guy is a master class at ego triggering. I applaud that and I find it helpful

Dude, chill, I am raising my consciousness. Why the nuthouses now? What is wrong with meditation, yoga and reading spiritual books? I also test everything and am doing an empirical investigation. I am living. I have not stopped living to do these things in order to start living after. Relax and leave your misconceptions to yourself. Every person is normal anyway, even a person in a nuthouse - there is nothing wrong with that. Just like every waterfall is normal. From what I gathered this is the root of enlightenment and I have grasped it on intellectual level. Now I am working on reaching the consciousness level in which I am living from that space. Relax and let me be. There is no free will anyway, so if the dice said I will end up in a nut house - I will. If they said I will end up as a king I will, if they said I will end up as a spiritual guru, I will, if they said I will end up living a regular life, I will, etc etc etc (I'm not bothered about the future)... It's all normal experience. You can't say if you are into mysticism you're missing the point, because that has nothing to do with it. You're still a person (or not, wink) and can reach the truth.

Ok you might actually have achieved oneness, maybe you're an endarkened tho haha PS: Nice job, oh enlightened one, going back and giving me bad rep on all my comments, my ego now feels pretty hurt I have negative rep on the site, awesome! Helps me with enlightenment

A lot of hypocrisy going on here. You're still living in the past by arguing with me in the first place. Also you fail to realize that I am interpreting your words in my way and also you are interpreting my words in your way. So you also might not have understood at 100% what I have said. You are dividing all the time in your comments, not something an enlightened being, a being that has realized it's one-ness with all would do, no? You are so deceived(or so I think) you are right and you even spilled the beans that you haven't even got rid of your ego. You're following something other than what Leo's videos were at all about, or at least how I perceived them. Please don't bash on Ekhart, his content is life-saving.

Are you creating peace or are you creating conflict? PS: I never claimed to know what enlightenment is, as I am not enlightened. I was voicing my opinion on what I see. Using the forum.

Question: How do you know I am sad? By my words? You are projecting. I am perfectly calm at this moment, following the teachings of Eckhart Tolle, by being in my body, silencing the mind, acknowledging my breath. I am letting life happen and I am observing it. Not trying to force anything. At this moment I am writing a comment to you, and I am observing that consciously and I am also observing how riled up and defensive you get and even resort to verbal "attacks" to the other party. All I'm saying is that I am not convinced you are enlightened. It doesn't matter and it shouldn't matter to you if my self that I am observing at this moment is doing this projection towards you, if you understand what I mean. Let it be, me thinking you're not enlightened is not hurting anyone but your apparently non-existent ego.

You mean I should teach my ego, make my Ego white-ish (spiritual) like I am implying you have done?

Can say the same towards you and be right also.

I've read or heard somewhere that by taking drugs you can only see nirvana through the window / break in uninvited, so you are kicked out when the effect wears off of-course. But probably the realization one gets during that psychedelic satori stay, right? At least some wisdom

The thing is the things you're saying @Socrates anyone with spiritual understanding can say, but the way you say them, the energy that I get is that neediness to be right. I don't know, text doesn't translate emotion and intent that well. F it.

The only thing I'm point here is even if you are right on the level of thought, the very way you act, the way you defend, like you have figured it out is a way for your own ego to grow. By being right in this argument your goal (without you knowing) is for your ego to conserve this as the truth and grow, because "yes, I know what's false". My ego is in a fight with your ego it's just I think you've deceived yourself that you no longer have an ego? Which is scary imo. PS: Thanks for the conversation anyway, I had a realization while writing it. PS#2: Bottom line is if you are enlightened you should realize that some people in the matrix are still going to think you're in the matrix (can't just believe you right away and shouldn't really). If you're not enlightened but just deceiving yourself, this should've helped you a bit.

You said Emerald did not have an enlightenment experience through ayahuasca. That's what I mean by you act like you know it all. You somehow know that another did not have an enlightenment experience through a drug, because of your own experience with drugs?

I am false and you are true? I do not follow

I don't know, Socrates, your comments always dig deep into my ego and maybe that's your hidden agenda, but maaaaan. You sound like the authority on the subject, like you now know ALL, and shouldnt enlightenment mean you now know you don't know? And something about always defending your mental position, my egoic me keeps on screaming "that folk aint enlightened" Sorry

From" A Bird on the Wing" by Osho - "The more simple a thing the more difficult it is to understand. " So my logical mind immediately kicks in by the following : If enlightenment is infinitely simple, then it is infinitely hard to understand <=> Nothingness is infinitely hard to understand <=> we shouldn't try to understand it, because we need an infinite mind for that.

2 words: Mary Juana

What about the experiences of other dimensions? I have this memory of navigating through other dimensions maybe before I was born or after I died. Now I know I can be deceiving myself or it might've been a dream, but it looks pretty damn real in my memory... That's the sort of thing I'm talking about, Being aware of higher dimensions and ultimately having the actual sense of being an infinite being.

Sorry, but completely wrong. So you do the meditation reciting mantra yes! But you do it for 15 minutes. The other 5 minutes are more important though for transcending the self, u need to send some money to me over my paypal because that way ur self becomes selfLESS (less money, get it?) ! Yeah Enjoy

Don't worry about that, I know that time is an illusion and that all there is is the now. I know my idea is an idea, but it can't be otherwise, as I can't communicate a non-idea. You are also communicating an idea. Also I just started reading an Osho book and the things about seeking you're saying in your next comment.