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To start go watch ramana maharshi video on the subject. It has to be the best starting point.

I dream awesome dreams. Last night was supposed to be a nightmare, but im so damn enlightened in my dream that nothing phases me. Ofcourse i do run from the bad guys. I think my ability to escape is the reason i cant feel real fear for longer, like i used to when i was a child and couldnt move while the bad guys were after me. Bit i did feel intense fear last night for a while because they were after me, but then i felt 'im going to destroy these fools, i can run so fast and jump through obstacles. I had the feeling this is my territory and i knew how to get around and confuse the shit out of them. All started because me and my girl were trying to stop one guy from stealing a white horse with his truck. He came back with help and well, my girl wasnt fast enough, she got caught and they ate her like zombies.. (i only saw they ate her like zombies,because later that night i dreamt that im explaining what happened to my mother, she wanted to check it out, and we went back. The guys that were chasing me were in a circle eating her... Sadly mom strayed too far too, before i could tell her to gtfo . Damn, is there a thread for sharing dreams? Maybe i should have a dream journal on here in the journal section.

If the illusion is great will we want to escape from it?

1) Don't take things so personally 2) Zombie apocalypse is here - people always on their phones and getting fed information by the media, being controlled by it. 3) This path is about loving yourself. That's why you want to find the true self in the first place. Your mind is creating some fiction and you are believing it to be truth. But even from here, turn away from those thoughts in 180 degrees and see who is experiencing those thoughts. It is you! One point smaller than a point, Everlasting, because experience can never stop. Or have you ever experienced non experience?

Thats what jesus would say! Joking aside, you gonna die anyway. Isnt it more fun if you become aware of the you that never dies? You have been given this chance now and for whatever reason you gravitated towards this. And after all you wont die, only illusions will die. Its a journey of finding truth, not some suicide mission. The true you, they say, can never die. Of course that being the case it doesnt really matter if you get the realization in this lifetime or in the next 100. I feel that I owe it to myself to find the truth, so im on the path. Im enjoying the path. And observing the one that enjoys! I think it would be regrettable to turn away from working on inner peace and inner truth.

Maybe you'll be the next Jesus and save us from our sins by sucking up all our karma. Tnx if u do it btw haha

Self inquiry is not meditation. Your path is your choice. Bye Mikey, I will miss you from this one topic we discussed together. Member me.

LOL all that drama, are you joking? Who is the one tired? Who is the one seeing? These are thoughts. You are seeing them. Self inquire.. It's the simplest thing. You dont need no enlightenment. It will either come or not. All you need to do is ask the question every time you say I... Who is this I? I is the grand though contaning all other. BUt it's still a thought, contain within you - watcher, consciousness, so keep searching for that. That's what Im doing at least. Just watch Ramana, him you should believe, just watch the way he lived.# Ye this forum is full of "allknowers" and I might be one of em sometimes lol //even though I know that I know nothing just like Jon Snow/, but I have tried and tested self enquiry to be truly effective in everyday life.

So salvation is in time and conditional?

That's the stoners' hymn

Im not sure you are thinking it, but just to clarify, the old gentleman in the vid truly is a gentleman, but he is not Ramana Maharshi, he is simply reading some of his work

So would you say withholding from release will allow me to use this energy within me? I imagine something like a fire and if I keep it in, it will start moving up through my breathing activating other stuff instead of going out the wrong end. Anyone have a good idea on what is a good way to use sexuality for spiritual work? Like how do I actually transfer lol

Watch a video on Ramana Maharshi to get a sense of an enlightened being at it's highest. I watched yesterday and today and I was in awe at his story, life and words! (And appearantly his visitors were in awe of his silence too.) He shows clearly that he is not the body... So any enlightened being egoistical might be so only when communicating through the mind. IF they are trully enlightened they know they are not this form. That they are the conciousnes... and so on.. and so on.. I am not a guru. Even Ramana Maharshi is not a guru. The guru is God! Or w/e You! Conciousness The videos of Ramana were more clear to me than anything else! Try them I will help you with a vid: But check out the others too, if you like this, of course.

Sorry I was pondering this question deeply and I wanted to ask it without opening a new thread... Do enlightened beings fap/ have sex? Anyone enlightened that can enlighten me? I mean even if you don't have desire for it, it's not bad, right, so it can be done? I can't stop my sexual urges and they don't go away. MUch harder than thoughts. Help me if its something bad!

I am a comedian!

Dont react. Yield and overcome!

Dude you don't even know what I've said. You are judging your interpretation of what I said. I can see that you definitely didn't understand what I meant with my post. Never said anything about new age bullshit, your mind is playing tricks on you. All I said is the guy is talking against what he thinks is bullshit. The easiest thing is to paint a stick figure in your mind and then pull it apart... The truth is, you don't know anything of me, my values and so on. You are acting on your own false beliefs and fighting with your own image of me. It's disheartening that you are not seeing it. Or maybe you are and doing this stuff anyway just for fun.

Maybe perceiving everything as perfect brings you on the path to nirvana. But thats exactly the reason why those people who do not see everything as perfect and are trying to fix things for others who dont see everything as perfect and improving their finite lives should be considered much more of a saint than those who reach nirvana and live in constant bliss and can't be bothered by anything. Oh and by the way, its much easier to see everything as perfect, when you have a warm home, internet and most things that people in the past who didnt see things as being perfect broke sweat for, exactly because they were burnt by a fire that said: Nope, thats not really perfect.

What do you mean non-spiritual... The guy is talking about spirituality, he is against religion and bullshit. He is a warrior of the truth and is not content with just spitting out things that others agree with. He is fighting against delusion from what I've seen so far... Maybe you didn't see the video and are judging him by his cover. He is about increasing the quality of human lives for the rest of the life of this planet. J Just because you know the truth (pretty easy truth to grasp) that all has an end and that nothing really matters in infinity, doesnt mean people have to give up trying to improve their finite lives. In fact, exactly because people werent content with what is, you have the life you are so happy about experiencing right now. Otherwise it would be something else and who knows, you might have even been an "ATHEIST" (yuuuuuk) for your whole life. Lol. Just wanted to give you 2 cents, that your comment was very egoistical. If you are liberated and know the truth, why are you talking down on other forms, saying the form you are living right now is somehow better than another? Or that the experience you are having is better than other experiences. How do you know your experience is not in fact the lowest of all possible? You talk about infinity and determinism. Both those I am completely agreeing on an intellectual level. I don't really need a teaching I havent asked for. This is another sign of a spiritual ego, which I am currently trying to move away from, because it's not me.

I am enjoying this, check out at least 10 minutes of that from this start point, or the whole thing ofcourse. This guy is pretty interesting imo and has sound stuff to say.

I dont want to remove bad thoughts, I might have in the past, but now I am subscribed to : all thoughts are my children. So I gotta MattKahnLove the shit out of them. But ok I see the validity of what you say, and also of what he says. Do I win a spiritual cookie now?

not enlightened here, so cant say if his version is right or wrong Also I dont know whether he has attained liberation or not, because I am not him.

I found that video interesting for few reasons. It showcases how a man is being instantly judged as ego by the spiritual ego. He is a man that is expressing his viewpoint and I don't see him saying anything outrageous. He is stating what he believes to be true. There will always be the other side of the coin, otherwise the coin will vanish. Furthermore, it made me ponder about the right and wrong moral question. There clearly is right and wrong, from the human viewpoint. More or less we all agree that what's wrong with this planet is the suffering, and if we could find a path which leads to us living without suffering, that would be the right path. That's the main reason I took up spirituality in the first place. I made this simple observation which proves once and for all that there is right and wrong from the human perspective - ultimately, through the use of contradiction. If one believes that the statement "there is no right and wrong" is "right", that one is contradicting him/herself and is believing in nonsense. The only possible belief one can have about that statement is that it is wrong, which promotes it from belief to fact. Sometimes one must act on truth. Be passionate about truth. Like that guy. Left brain right brain balance is one of the most important things we need to work on. Sometimes we need to let go, accept, relax, embrace and sometimes we need to act, be passionate, even get angry. It's not wrong, dont label it as ego. Human beings are forces of nature. It's disrespectful to call a force of nature by a 3 letter label. That's really the biggest thing I cant understand. How is it that in spirituality, the realm where we should be without labels AT ALL, we label everyone who expresses themselves strongly as ego... Come on ! :? PS: Sorry, the Right and Wrong thing is from the next video I watched of him... I didnt realize

It doesnt sound far fetched. Ive always known the teuth im looking for should be staring me right in the face... :-D so it must be something simple and subtle. Maybe i just gotta stop thinking about it and just be. Maybe then i join you.

Meditate on a chair. It allows me to go for much longer, because otherwise i have bloodflow problems. Meditation on the ground is usually used because when this started chairs were not invented. You dont need to punish the body to meditate.