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Yeah, we can see how the fundamentalists may start 'thinking' that cube should become water i.e. everything should blow up into emptiness But the resistance vs fluidity explanation shows that this is more of an attitudinal change, a change within. The ice block is the resistance within the fluidity already present in us.

No, this is an explanation of a Royal Ape. Ps: Pointing fingers is an egoic action. See the root of that. We all have to look at our own soup when Ego is concerned. All you see of me is this profile. I am not identified with this profile, it is a tool. It is not my Ego.

Your thoughts are based on your web of beliefs. The web of beliefs swims in an ocean of Awareness. There is a sure and easy way to be aware of awareness alone. Beware, this is like exercising, you have to do this consistently to get some proper results in your actual web of beliefs. Whenever you can/want ask yourself the experiential question "Am I Aware?" (Rupert Spira™) and be interested in that. To be aware of objects, awareness needs to rise in the form of attention and place itself on objects. In order to know itself, it needs to relax attention away from the objects of experience and remain as it naturally is. So it's actually a non-practice, it requires no effort. You can visualize the process as awareness just shining in all directions without a limit (object) in its way to shine on, and so it simply is, like a star if you will, feeling it's own being. The light is used to shine on objects, but the core knows itself by itself without the need to shine itself with attention (well it can't, it's not an object) oops forgot to label the rays as 'Attention'

After watching the vid of Leo's couch wisdom, i want to share that that's exactly why I'm looking for truth. In order to have the objective perspective, or the absolute perspective. Here's what is an absolute perspective - a perspective that is always true: 1) It's always the present moment is true, it's not a perspective. Meaning Even if you take the opposite perspective, it's still true for you that you're in the present moment. 2) You are aware. This is again not dependent on perspective. You are aware whether or not your perspective is that you are aware. 3) You don't know what you don't know - Again, even if your perspective is that you do, you still don't know what you don't know - It's an objective fact independent of subjectivity/perspective. So perhaps we can go ahead and hold these "things" as concrete, as anchors one can use to ground to reality. They are objective reality. Im not saying the list is exhausted, it's just the nuggets that I've found. It's not all perspective... That's my perspective, but based on the three things that are undeniably Not a perspective. PS: By the way I've also had this idea and said it to my buddhist friend once, when I was an atheist that we should together try to have different relligions each week and see how different it feels :D

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You can delete the post but the Truth of this perspective will remain. I offer you the seekers one little experiment. Try to stop drinking water. Observe how long can you last without getting back to it if you last at least the month than the experiment failed. But if you can’t then the addiction is real. This addiction is the most dangerous one. One which is addicted to the quenched thirst. Addiction of the “thirst quench seeker”. Addicted to be quenched rather than thirsty. being thirsty is so scary. Scary to die, scary to be hurt. Addicted to run away from all the dryness. It is no different than other addictions. It just seems the liquid solution. Does this perspective has a right to exist? Why not?! -- Any perspective has the right to exist. There are still some addictions that are better than others. And some perspectives that are more closeminded than others <- This one could also be considered closeminded, depends on your perspective ? thats why i dont care much for perspectives and go for what is objective instead.

Hi and thanks for the questions. I'll give a go at answering, although your direct experience can answer these better than I can. 1) It is Not conceptual - why? Because it is here always in direct experience. All concepts, if they appear, appear in it - it is the space that allows for concepts(or anything) in the first place. What I am talking about when I speak of the present moment is not what happens in the present moment, but the space in which it happens. The space of now is irreducible in nature, unchanging and unmoving. It is a dimensionless point (like any point is, but that's another topic). It's not a confined space, it is rather eternal and inescapable. The concept of the present moment and anything else are always, without exception experienced in the space of the present moment - It's rather evident, but at the same time it's empty nature allows for confusion if you start thinking about it. The present moment is not an object you can point to and say " Aha! There it is". 2) Aware means to know. Aware of experience - to know experience. 3) While you could have these other perspectives on the matter (probably for feel-good purposes) it's still an objective fact that you don't know what you don't know. Taking those other perspectives is simply closing an eye / being ignorant of the fact that noone can know what they don't know. If you really know everything, this will be one of the things you would definitely know. Because it is impossible to know what you dont know, because you cant even know what that is. Why? Simply because its outside of your knowing. Perhaps if you are God that one breaks.

There are no distractions, for all distractions appear in That also. For That is what my inquiry targets, not the content. The content can be this or the opposite of this, but I find it helpful for the content to have arrows pointing me in the right direction. Like a well charted map. An absolute perspective or a point of view about experience is a perspective/point of view which cannot be proven untrue in experience even if you tried. It is also true for everyone, whether they know it or not! Try to go outside the now. Try not to be aware. It's that simple! You can lose your form identity, you can lose eeeeeverything else and everyone will at some point, but those two no-things you cannot lose. Those are eternal and ever present. And perhaps (most likely lol) they are not two, but one/zero, being pointed at from two angles.

I always thought, and still do to some degree, that chakras are about ego. Why? Aren't they content? So we can only be in the unconditional bliss if our chakras are open? >>.<< I have a division within me about Chakras. I'm super egoic. What if opening the Chakras means that Ego becomes infinite? I want it to become 0, because Im egoic this way I mean think about it... If your form self is super advanced Chakra-wise, aren't you going to have a harder time when it's time to leave it behind?

I mean that the "perspective" is absolute in a sense that it points to that real thing within which that very perspective appears. The opposite of that perspective will also appear in the same field pointed to by the 'absolute perspectives' that I mentioned, although they are not pointing towards it. The string of words and the pointer are not absolute, but what they point to, that's what I'm trying to communicate that is absolute. Don't get caught up on words.

This could be only if you are looking for an absolute content, not the absolute in which all content appears.

Nothing is absolute only on the level of mind/thought. That's precisely why you need a long explanation and you can't just point to it in my experience here now.

True nonduality is a concept. Also if true nonduality means that truth = false, than it's the same as saying false nonduality means truth = false. Contemplate That's not an absolute statement. An absolute statement does not exist, but a pointer can point to what is absolute right here and now - in experience. The only thing we can know. Are you going to believe your experience or your thoughts about experience?

It's a perspective, but the opposite perspective also implies this perspective is true. For you to write 'My perspective is that I am not in the present moment and that I am not aware' you need to be in the present moment and to be aware. This is exactly the reason why I put perspective in brackets in the topic title. Because this perspective corresponds to something true absolutely true in experience. We cannot be sure whether this is dream or a 'real reality', but what we can be sure is is that we are aware and that it is now. That much we can be sure of. The rest is perspectives, but this, how can this be a perspective

But i understand your point, it's simply not relevant to what I mean. Im saying that even if you think you are the body, you're still aware and in the present moment. Doesn't change the fact that one doesn't know they are aware and in the present moment, the reality of their situation is, that they are there and aware. No matter what they do or don't identify with. Im not saying that those things are noticed absolutely, I'm saying they are true absolutely.

That's what I mean. Even if they don't have this perspective intellectually, it doesnt mean they are not aware and that they're not in the present moment. That's why im saying that those things are absolute- because they dont depend on your perspective. Truth for me is that which always is no matter what the perspective. Independent of perspectives.

Really I don't understand. All im saying with my posts is that there is something absolute - a common ground between all forms of experience - including seeking infinity, not seeking it, being infinity and not being it. What I'm looking for is more like an anchor that I can become directly aware of in ANY situation, so that im not completely lost in the changing content

I'm not talking about "No perspective" either. You have a belief that the infinite means No perspective, because Leo or someone else told you. You're thinking about it and making conclusions. So, I'm not talking about "No perspective" im talking about what is NOT a perspective. I'm talking about what is here ABSOLUTELY without a doubt. Good test for such a thing would be that even the doubt of it would arise in it. No death required to grasp it.

Did not say that im after infinity or that im not after it. Your perspective can only be true if everyone is lying about absolute infinity. Contemplate. For there to be any knowledge about paths to the absolute, there needs to be someone who remained in their bodymind after being aware of it. In order for you to know that what you're saying is true, you must have experienced it? To know foor a fact? Please don't lie like that, not every bunch of text can be considered a valid perspective. It's clearly just your imagination. I'm contemplating the absolute which is also here now, so no death is required. If it's absolute it is here now.

This is just meshing up a bunch of theories though. What I'm interested in is what is the common between all theories which will be absolutely true no matter what. One, whatever it is it has to be known, otherwise it's not relevant. Two, it has to be your present moment reality, because if it isn't it's again not relevant to talk about it. For example, let's take heaven and eternal nothingness. There needs to be a witness to know that heaven and there needs to be a witness to know that eternal nothingness, otherwise it will be just a "skip" action until the knowing appears. The point of Knowing is empty, it doesnt create duality. Even if it's only nothingness, then that nothingness knows itself, in order for this to be a possible afterlife. Or the heaven knows itself, although the concept of heaven allows for a wiggle room for there to be an actual ego self experiencing something external to itself which is amazing.

But, there is still the knowing of it, or that Enlightenment knows itself by itself, but this means knowing is there. Otherwise how could anyone know of it or having experienced it? Also it's not like the absolute will happen in a space outside of "the now", even if it is a radically different experience / non-experience. So at least these two points hold even in the radicalness of infinity

@Driven62 The root of all fear is identification with content. Try to see you're the empty point of knowing of your experience and not exclusively the bodymind you take yourself to be. This will give you more space within and you will stop caring so much about outer things. This can fix your problem in 2 ways : 1) You might find out that the simplicity of your life is a feature rather than a bug. 2) You will have more of a third eye view on things and they won't look so scary anymore. I speak from experience, because before I was suffering from constantly running through my mind that people are judging me for my skin problem. Now, that thought doesn't even appear in my mind.

My Ego / My Mind / Me as an entity in the world is of the world, so it will act and be "wrapped up in" whatever genes and conditioning it is given. Then my Ego was given a "secret key". To be interested in the experience of being aware, rather than the stuff that are present within awareness. By using this key continuously, the true self is allowed to burst forward and one gets more and more the sense that one is not OF this world while being in it. So now there is no real separation between me and Ego. We are one. Actually I am even unsure why call it Ego. It's being. Only now it is less personal with Awareness at the top of the throne. You can say my Ego has evolved to a Wego. ?

My favourite is... The only one that trully exists... Now ??✌???? But anyway, I'd say my favourite would be when I was staring at the Sun with closed eyes and was able to change the colours I was seeing simply by naming word commands. After which I was able to play around, create light and see things appear on the space I was seeing. Like they were appearing from my subconscious to fill in the gaps. I also trapped some light by quickly blinking while looking at the Sun and that light started to blink quicker and quicker as I concentrated on it, after which I clearly saw how it was an angel and it just flew away from my vision all casually ??.

Can't follow step 1, because I am a frog. What can I say, I love my water more than my digesting.