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You, of course. (Relatively speaking.) Why not tell anybody to let go and surrender?
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The ultimate answer to your query is absolute truth aka. THIS. Which, of course, cannot be expressed with words.
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So I guess it's time to give the old broken record another spin, huh? "There is noone here who can let go and surrender" is a relative perspective. "There is someone here who can let go and surrender" is another relative perspective. Both perspectives are relatively true, and neither is absolutely true. They are two partial aspects of reality, not (the totality of) reality itself. Meaning that both can serve as valid and valuable spiritual pointers unless they are being mistaken for expressions of absolute truth. (There is in fact no such thing as an expression of absolute truth. Whatever can be expressed with words is at best relatively true, but never absolutely true). --- There you go. The broken record has spoken!
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Care to hear my response? Or can you already guess what I am going to say?
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Hyperion replied to Will1125's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thaaaat's the spirit. And also, it isn't. -
Hyperion replied to Will1125's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Of course. Relative reality exists to make the recognition of absolute reality possible. Something exists to make the recognition of nothing possible. Form exists to make the recognition of formlessness possible. The self exists to make the recognition of no self possible. All of these experiences arise together and are dependent on each other for their existence. No contrast = no appearance = no experience of reality. It's as simple as that. -
Y'all need to hear this.
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Heaphones required.
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Hyperion replied to Will1125's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
A "not you" cannot exist without a "you", just as a "you" cannot exist without a "not you". They are interdependent relative concepts, as all concepts are. -
Hyperion replied to Will1125's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Can a concept exist without the complementary opposite concept? Can the concept of "self" exist without the concept of "no self"? Can the concept of "no self" exist without the concept of "self"? Can there be white without black? Can there be Yin without Yang? -
Hyperion replied to Will1125's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Is that absolutely true? -
Exactly. That's why it is called "making sense", not "finding sense".
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Thought you might enjoy this. Or not.
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Lol, are you putting words in my mouth again? Hmmm?
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Don't mention it, sweetie. Good to see you too!
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Hehe, this is getting hilarious. I am just writing about my own perspective. Why are you putting words in my mouth by assuming (THINKING) that all I am doing is writing about your perspective and putting words in your mouth? In other words: The statements "appearances are real" and "appearances are not real" are both equally valid. So, where's the problem?
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Great, then we can agree to agree.
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Appearance = existence. It is that which is happening. And it's happening within reality, therefore it is real.
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Exactly. This is precisely what I am saying. "You are god" is just as relatively true/untrue as "you are a person". "You and me are one" is just as relatively true/untrue as "you and me are seperate". "There is no time and space" is just as relatively true/untrue as "there is time and space". "Nonduality is more true, more real, more fundamental, more divine than duality" is just as relatively true/untrue as "duality is more true, more real, more fundamental, more divine than nonduality". And none of these statements are absolutely true. In other words: The belief that duality is illusory and nonduality is not illusory is the illusion. The Absolute is neither dual nor nondual. It just IS.
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You mean that there are no consequences in an absolute sense, but only in a relative sense? Nice distinction. Thanks for confirming the difference between absolute and relative.
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Ok great, so let's take some examples: "You are god". Is this absolutely true? "You are not god". Is this absolutely true? "You are a person." Is this absolutely true? "You are not a person." Is this absolutely true? "Life is a dream". Is this absolutely true? "Life is not a dream". Is this absolutely true? "There is separation". Is this absolutely true? "There is no separation". Is this absolutely true? Are all of these statements equally true? You have just expressed this with words.
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This is too good to not share it.
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Who is trying to make things fit into a box? Didn't you say that I don't exist? Again: Beware of delusion. Delusion = confusing relative truth for absolute truth. What is relative truth? Anything that can be expressed with words (because it is partial aka. conceptual). What is absolute truth? That which cannot be expressed with words (because it contains and transcends absolutely everything).
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Don't you always insist that there is noone here who can (not) make it out alive, or do/think/say/be anything at all? Does the question you posted above indicate that you don't actually buy into your own dogma around no self and nonduality?