Hyperion

Reality is the infinite field of all possible qualities, meaning that anything you can name, think of and experience is it - and also, it isn't. So it doesn't make the slightest difference what you call it: Reality, unreality, consciousness, spirit, matter, appearance, illusion, everything, nothing, self, no-self, oneness, multiplicity, Yin, Yang, John, Jaqueline, a three-headed Zebra with purple stripes... the name you give it doesn't matter at all, because it is All That Is, and it includes, expresses itself as and transcends absolutely everything.

Mmmm, another well-founded and carefully substantiated criticism. What a delight! Consciousness is the by-product of relative qualities coming into existence (and thereby being experienced). In fact, consciousness, experience, existence and relativity are pretty much synonymous. You can only ever experience that which "stands out" in your awareness from the rest of reality. The totality of reality on the other hand can never be (fully) experienced; it can only be experienced and be made conscious by approximation, if you will (I.e. by raising the vibrational frequency of consciousness). But hey, it seems to me like I already explained all of this at length in my OP, so... why exactly am I writing all of this again?

The opposite of that which can be expressed with words is that which cannot be expressed with words. The opposite of that which can be described as "XYZ" is that which can be described as "not XYZ". That which has no opposite must be all of those things, and also none of those things. Simple logic.

This is going to be my last reply to you on this thread. The Absolute is that which has no opposite. Therefore, whatever you say about it (i.e. whatever relative quality you adscribe to it) isn't it - and also it is, but so is the opposite of whatever you say about it. If you cannot grasp this simple meta-logical fact, then I simply cannot help you. Over and out.

First of all, nonduality is a relative quality/perspective, not Absolute Truth (which includes and transcends both duality and nonduality). Secondly, relative opposites never dissappear. They just become integrated, and thereby transcended. That's the beauty of Reality. It accommodates and allows absolutely everything, because it is absolutely everything. ☯️

Sorry, but for someone who raves so much about logic, you just don't seem very capable of (meta)logical thinking. Also, you seem to have some kind of chip on your shoulder. So I frankly don't really see the point in talking to you. Take care, brother.

@Breakingthewall Lol, I love you too. 😘

No offense, but I simply don't see the point of repeating the same thing over and over and over and over again to someone who seems to be either incapable or unwilling to understand what is being said.

The nature of anything that exists is anything that exists, including all relativity. The Absolute is that which has no opposite, therefore it is the sum of all forms and also not the sum of all forms. I didn't say that you do. You just "need" to raise the frequency of consciousness to the point where it is clearly seen that all possible opposites are always and without exception two sides of the same coin.

Duality and nonduality are two sides of the same coin.

@Breakingthewall Nuff said.

Here's my response: Satisfied? That is relatively (un)true.

Illusion. This is one of those words which are being thrown around in spiritual circles like they're confetti, and yet very few people seem to understand what the word actually refers to. So, let's analyze the confetti so that we can see it for what it really is(n't). Here's what an illusion is NOT: It's not something that isn't real. It's not something that doesn't exist. It's not a hallucination that is being "dreamed up" by some mysterious invisible being. Here's what an illusion IS: It is an incomplete perception (which is a tautology, since all perception is necessarily incomplete). It is a relative perspective (as opposed to absolute truth). It is a part of reality (as opposed to ALL of reality). Here's an analogy: When we see a magician standing on a stage and performing a magic trick, why do we call that magic trick an illusion? Is it because there is no magician, no white rabbit and no hat that the rabbit is being pulled out of? NOPE. We call it an illusion because we are only seeing part of what is actually happening; we see a real magician pulling a real rabbit out of a real hat, but what we don't see is all of the stuff that is going on behind the scenes - all of the things that have been carefully hidden from our view so that we can be amazed and surprised by the things that we do see happening on stage; and since we are missing the full picture, it appears to us like magic. Does this mean that the illusion is "bad"? No, it doesn't. Not only is the existence of illusions not bad, but in fact it is a necessary condition for reality being able to experience/be aware of itself, since reality can only ever be partially perceived and experienced, but never as a 100% complete whole. No illusions = no experience of reality. Here are examples of things that are illusions: The black letters appearing on a white screen that you are seeing now are an illusion. The thought "those black letters appearing on a white screen are just an illusion" is an illusion. The notion that there is something rather than nothing is an illusion. The notion that there is nothing rather than something is an illusion. The notion that reality is physical is an illusion. The notion that reality is a dream is an illusion. The notion that you are human is an illusion. The notion that you are not human is an illusion. The notion that you are consciousness is an illusion. The notion that you are not consciousness is an illusion. Duality is an illusion. Nonduality is an illusion. Oneness is an illusion. Multiplicity is an illusion. Solipsism is an illusion. Time is an illusion. Timelessness is an illusion. Form is an illusion. Formlessness is an illusion. Free will is an illusion. No free will is an illusion. Meaning is an illusion. Meaninglessness is an illusion. Self is an illusion. No-self is an illusion. Anything that can be perceived, experienced and be expressed with words is an illusion. Again: An illusion is NOT something that doesn't exist. An illusion is a part of reality that "stands out" (in your awareness) from the rest of reality. So not only do illusions exist, but as a matter of fact, ILLUSIONS ARE THE ONLY THING(S) THAT EXIST. That which does not exist - which doesn't "stand out" - is the Absolute, which is no-thing aka. everything. --- All of what you just read is an illusion (-> a relative perspective). And all of what you are going to reply will also be an illusion. Now, are you going to cling to one illusion and reject the other, or are you going to be aware of that which holds, encompasses, expresses itself as and transcends all illusions? Your choice.

Yes. "Reality Is" is the ultimate tautology; it is pointing to the exact same (no-)thing (Reality/Being) with two different words. As soon as you add anything to that and say "reality is xyz", you are always expressing a relative perspective, not absolute truth. And for any relative perspective, there is always a complementary opposite counter-perspective which is equally existentially valid. ☯️

Exactly. Reality is that which is, while "unreality" is that which is not; unreality only exists as a relative mental concept which appears in and as part of reality. Therefore, reality does not have an opposite. Q.E.D.

People unnecessarily overcomplicate all this stuff so much, it's crazy. When it's actually incredibly simple. "I" can only exist in relation to "not I". "Now" can only exist in relation to "not now". "One mind" can only exist in relation to "multiple minds". "All is one" can only exist in relation to "all is not one". The only thing/no-thing/everything that has no opposite and therefore is Absolute is reality itself, which is all that there is. Anything else you can name, think of and experience are relative facets/qualities/perspectives that can only exist in relation and contrast to their respective opposite. This isn't rocket science, folks.

Paradox and contradiction are NOT the same. If you're not able to spot your own contradictions, then you're not able to spot your own delusions.

@Someone here Btw, note that everything you are saying here directly contradicts what you are saying in your "God doesn't sleep" thread. Just sayin'.

There also isn't no "it" to not talk about.

It really doesn't matter how much or how little you say about "it"... because whatever you (don't) say about it isn't it, and also it is. So any spiritual (non-)teaching worth its salt will always in some way point beyond the words (and the perspective(s) that they express).

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