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@Scholar Okay and not so terrible but not especially good. Humans are self referential first and foremost. Social creates the self, so we love the feedback we get as it feeds us. Awareness is preoccupied with its workings, so at a certain level it's always going to want to figure out how to feed what social feeds which is necessary for our path of mastery but unnecessary for enjoying our life. If you ramped up peoples awareness, after a certain level so many demographics would just simply breakdown and reform completely as they're predicated on the social ego that's created for each individual that makes that demographic. I'm not going to address everything you said but I am open to dialogue. As for "humans don't seek truth", by its very existence means that you're wrong about that, instead I would be asking yourself, what 'how' exists for why humans either do or don't. There's frustration when we're wrong and we are tempted to take concrete views over more nuanced views to cope with that frustration up until the positive/negative feedback ratio from reality becomes too distorted, however false positives and everything all the way up to a solid positive can bring just as much distortion without change, as we saw with Nazi's, which is an easy example to pull out, however in this context j recommend adding deeper perspectives.

@Basman yes of course, but 99% of people are unqualified to do it. At the very least, if you can do it you should be doing both. For both, where is the competency relative to the practice and you as a person?

To Curt though, there is, never was and never could nor would or will be any Curt to have suffered any psychosis. Therefore "Curt" is wondering what the fuck you're on about. Poor Curt.

@Davino yeah the self referential aspect of it is pretty cool.

A lot of people come here that don't have enough self respect. What needs to be addressed is their self respect issues. That should be the point of reference for peoples interpretation accordingly, but to do so requires self respect.

@Davino the world is new when you're young, so the brain is of course going to be very plastic. When the world becomes old to you, why would your brain also not get old and or already be a reflection of such? It's all very elementary physics. Only hang around people that are still human otherwise they will make you inhuman. Joy, love, inspiration, courage in the face of adversity, curiosity, self-sovereignty, agency, gratitude and self-respect. These are real people. These are people with brains still plastic. Live life in reverse and you'll live a happy one. "In reverse?" Meaning, ask questions like: well what is it that keeps a brain plastic and open to new experiences? Start there. Suggestion: its the imagination.

Your problem is "Who am I?" Outside of others. It's why you lie. You wouldn't fucking lie if you had sense of self like a belt wrapped around your fucking pants. So you're walking around with your pants down coming up with fabrications so others don't notice as you don't know how to pull them up. Well I just told you how. Deep contemplative slow building of emotional intelligence. That's what you need. Not this fucking academic bullshit that's meandering around most subjects anyway being taught at a max level usually at IQ 120, no once you've done a course even one that's self designed that'll develop your emotional intelligence then you'll not only have the confidence gained from completing it you'll have the competence gained by now being able to manage your states of consciousness that best correspond to you taking not just action but meaningful action where your social reference frame begins and ends with you and where any social additions to that are only where they're complementary to your sense of self therein. No mother fucker knows this shit these days, and the unis are not gonna tell your unwise ass they want you laying at the desperate sugar lick man. You need your own self scope on a personal existential kaleidoscope you can do reruns on continuously to the point where your internal narratives are no longer dominated by external authority and are working more and more to creating internal authority where the outside is again, solely and only complementary. Love your folks no matter what. Love people no matter what. And use those two virtues to manage how you're going to execute the previous paragraph and vice versa. Now hit the fucking ball off the T and get your home run and don't call it quits until you've made it the whole way as well as using your time wisely to do so. Peace.

@Basman you'd become so incredibly self deluded about its merit that you'd never be able to escape it. Which is precisely what happens to people, perverse incentives combined with the compound interest of social positive feedback guarantees that remaining a permanent condition of servitude to one's most unaware nature. The inverse is also true, take devout religious people, they always think they're good and for their actual good they want to keep it their and for their actual bad without awareness there's generally cognitive dissonance that either leads to awareness to reparation or denial to further degradation. Awareness is the most important, awareness in leadership though concerning our present reality is even more important because the masses of people prefer conformity as that's their brains automatic go to as the brains subconscious re-routes its energy expenditure away from awareness because it's concluded it doesn't have enough of it to dictate it's own survival outside the leaders narrative. We have one leader coupled with a top down hierarchy most of the time across all cultures because both people struggle cognitively to manage thinking about more than one leaders opinions and two because the leader themselves along with their followers are evolutionary wired this way when there isn't the personal development elsewhere. We have councils, NATO for example, and although they have a hybrid hierarchical structure were in some situations all 31 (?) members get equal power even they have singular top level positions leadership. And we've got billions of people on this planet, it's totally nonsensical to believe that only one leader is the best person, we'd have at least a million people on the planet that are equally as good at running these high end positions however its just not how our internal evolutionary hierarchy operates. Just as we have two eyes we only have two brain hemispheres, although it's arguably feasible internally along highly selected groups externally it's too much cognitively for people to handle. It's a great example of our limited capacities as humans we must both humble ourselves and to spend the time on how we can reflect to make smarter practical decisions based on this self knowledge on both socially and personally. One of the ideals of forging a group is to have better error checking with respect to integrity, however if those people aren't at a certain high level of consciousness what often happens of what should be an advantage there when forging a group becomes a disadvantage when bad energy spreads among members and infects them from the bottom up and then corrupts the leadership from the top down, and we dont need to spend much time thinking to find many examples of this. It happens in families to cults to political and religious organisation to police to even medical establishments. I would say that organisations like the fire brigade, all things being equal even though there's struggles here, probably because of the unified goal of saving people without a strong power differential compared to the medical establishment probably both creates the best groups and subsequent people within them when it comes to government organisations. This is why intelligent protocols on spaces like this kind of self actualisation is just as important, it's the unified goal that makes people good, most people are not actually good enough by themselves to be good enough without converging towards a common positive goal in this space, but hence why they are here right. All group formations have their ups and downs, what matters is that the fundamental genuinely positive goal always remains the same for as long as there's resiliency in this sense, a group is able to absorb the negative while still moving towards the positive; balance right, so being on that right hand side of the equilibrium even if it's only slightly. This space and it's problems are a reflection of the greater problems of humanity given the social problems that exist with the positive formalisation that is self actualisation, the world struggles with ego identification much more than the struggles it has on their self actualisation towards ego integration as they never even find the path deeply enough. Even though growth and evolution is the fundamental truth of all of life, most people don't understand that goal in and of itself and can only resonate with it if it's within the context of a social group where you can be socially stratified. Football player? Yeah okay we totally understand your growth goals now and we socially support you as a society. Losing weight? The exact same as there's the social credit score that's being built up there on that social meme. So it's all what's memetically accepted when it comes to anchoring the social acceptance of personal growth en masse, we've had a really positive movement in the self development space in the last ten years but only twenty years ago it was unheard of. Different cultures have had different genres of branding the social acceptance of personal development as well, "Going to become a military boy aye! You go get em you'll become a man son!", "Going to university? Wow, you'll be an educated leader by the end!", professions dictated the social acceptance of personal growth and so we've actually ironically in spite of all our problems as a species progressed when it comes to the formalisation of personal development even though most demographics area still totally out of the evolutionary loop there. The professionalism (i.e. the "go to army = memetically good" for many centuries) of personal development served as thw best protection against evil that we had in spite of its difficulties because of the postive social cohesion in most places that's meant to follow. It's the simple, "we know what you're becoming as we've seen it before and we know it's not evil so we wish you more" however if you're off on your own, socially of there isn't the established culture for it it's like "well what the fuck is this guy doing?". One guy says, "hi my name is Jack, I've been working on my personal development for ten years and..." Versus " hi my name is Tom and I've been in the military for ten years..." What's going to receive more social approval? So our stratification of personal development is inherently good as we're inherently wanting to work away from the evil socially, socialisation is designed as a protective mechanism against evil even if memetically we can sometimes get it wrong, it's only because our evolutionary heuristics are preprogrammed towards this bias and you should never try to fight against it as memetically it's designed to protect itself, you should just seek a greater level of awareness. Coming full circle on the question then, "what happens if you became completely evil", the answer is group formation, socialisation and our inherent desire for good (most of us) is designed to protect against it evolutionarily, even in the worst of organisations which is why our most regarded are generally the most holy, so at a minimum it'll be the opposite of what positive you think it'll be. You'll be quickly ostracised even if you're a really good manipulator, police will be involved eventually, the social environment of your present time will eventually turn against you in as much as you don't have enough positive evolutionary heuristics to trick people into believing you're good, from being physically attractive, rich, intelligent and socially savvy. Ironically, most of us have these heuristics that are designed for socially organising the good from the bad, however in our greatest positions of power we have the most corruption of all because those heuristics operate too simplistically, unable to properly vett everything that makes bad vs good, which is why corrupt politicians can get into one of the most powerful positions as well as why we can simultaneously have millions of people that support them while at the same time millions of people that dont, purely because it creates too much dissonance to think about the positions of millions of people when we can barely contemplate the intelligence of our own. Once a voter has been memetically sucked into one candidate including social conformity, it's almost impossible to change their mind and politicians know this, they know that people struggle which is why there's perverse incentives for them to manipulate because game theoretically they would see that if they don't in some way, they would lose, but the problem with that is of course that they then become even more corrupt as that's the way they're epigenetically now programming their personality. So in one sense it's tough to be a politician and you've gotta have empathy for them in this regard and in another sense, we still have no choice but to continue to demand excellence in integrity even if all sides politician, voter and cultural environment in that dynamic struggle to engineer that to the finish line in terms of their respective responsibilities. So in answer to "what would be wrong with it?", even though we get so much wrong in our process to the finish line of the good in this respect, all of society as we know it would collapse as we're geared to be towards the light, no matter how low consciousness a particular demographic is outside of genuine psychopaths, is where we're naturally wired. "Is this what it's like to ascend morals?" No. Moral ascendency is via self consciousness, awareness and the growth in philosophical competency. Moral ascendency as you've described it is childish and actually reflects the opposite of power, as you haven't demonstrated the power to understand what truly makes the world. And, you wouldn't even enjoy it in as much as you had even the slightest altruistic tendency. I haven't had much sleep again. Ha, it's still interesting.

@trenton judgement is a habit of thought, a necessary one to an extent for all personality matrixes. Leverage the need to self judge so you can judge with sophistication that allows you to turn judgement into what it usually becomes when it's healthy, practical intelligence. For example, when it comes to being judged by people, one thing you can do is to leverage that social tendency within our minds towards instead consciously judging yourself from the perspective of either or both a constructive past and present self. By moving to a constructive version of your past self while becoming aware of other variations of yourself, you'll realise that this moment is just transient, you've risen above it before in most cases and so you can at least try in this instance. A constructive future self via its simulation automatically realigns the subconscious to operate that way in the present, it's how films work. When we watch a film we are anticipating what will happen next and experiencing what is happening on the screen as if it's our own experience. When we're anticipating what a future self might say and or are experiencing it via simulation, it switches on the same analogous networks. It may feel strange for started but it works and theres many unique ways to do this kind of exercise. Another example that reinforces the previous, is by promising yourself that time is going to be your only judger not the outside world. By combining it with the former, you're automatically generating a feedback loop with that being the advice you're going to be given from either past or future version of yourself, thereby creating a self respect / self esteem feedback loop that feeds your independence. By focusing as well on only time, you won't care about short term reactions that are the bread and butter of rumination and you'll experience new dimensions of your sense of self. Your sense of direction for judgement will experience a radical shift that opens up practical decision making with ease.

@2bequitefrank heartmath dot com, 3 hrs a day for a month, taper off from there to where the exercise itself becomes your natural and or easy to reinforce

@Reciprocality E(T) = ∫ (M1 + M2) / S ^ θ dt So.... E(T) = evolution of transition to pterodactyl or whatever results from the numerous past life hypnosis sessions I've done with my psychoatrists I choose between M1 = momentum of the current self M2 = momentum of the transformed self S = ur postulated static universals: θ = intervention factor so where external influence meets immediacy to change t = time it takes to transition I've got to get back to my paleontological and egyptian studies though!

@Reciprocality Static universals are not inert, they're the laws encoding transitions from fluidity to structure, from malleability to form. They embody the principle of momentum, rich minds expand, dull minds stagnate, governed by the same algorithmic laws as the simulation hypothesis. Intervention isn’t optional; it's the force shaping outcomes, transgenderism encapsulates this beautifully as I speak about on the last page of my journal with respect to what in a nutshell encompasses a man as a man, woman as a woman. This morning I found myself thinking I was a Pterodactyl, so I contacted my imaginary psychologist, she then referred me to a pschiatrist facilitating the emotional transition between novel intrapersonal species awareness and next week I'll be beginning my formal evolutionary transition with the relevant prescribed drugs while working along side the best paleontologists in the world to help me master squarking large bird sounds, flapping wide wings and landing protocols especially in the presence of nearby flight zones and paths I need to be mindful of when I finally let my true inner self expand into physical flight for the first time. I'm not crazy I'm just more evolved than all the rest of you as you haven't done formalised "Childhood Transitional Therapy" where they put you through hypnosis exercises followed by an interview period where by the end you find out all the prior beings you were in a previous lifetime. During one of my hypnosis sessions with one of many over qualified psychiatrists I was also once upon a time "Pharoah of Locke" leader of an entire planet, that came to Earth to lead Egypt period and the engineering of the pyramid of giza. Such, on the side of my pterodactyl transitional period I'm also studying ancient egyptian scriptures of the grea------test leaders of all time to see if I can find a history of this name because I wouldn't have been one of the worst would have I realise as well I obviously would have been enshrined in stone too so I'll plan a trip accordingly and a possible mummy excavation will likely follow too if I get lucky. "Squaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrk!

@Reciprocality it’s vital that you read my response to Carl Richard, heh I'll link it down the bottom, take in the whole but particularly focus on my exploration of intelligence as both the illuminator and the boundary, the paradox of creation and perception. This mirrors your universal pursuit but also challenges it. You perceive universals as static relational truths, while I argue intelligence reshapes them actively, not by addition, but through collapsing boundaries of perception into realization. The moment of insight isn’t a mere “exhaustion” of the domain but the quantum shift where perception and mind’s capacity fold into one. The universal is not an end; it’s a dynamic mirror reflecting the act of chasing itself. You seem reluctant to admit how deeply your engagement relies on what you dismiss, so social interplay, synthetic judgment, the “messy particulars.” Your participation here offsets tension, but that tension is the process of intelligence redefining the universal in real time. Is it possible your focus on "formalization" locks you in the false duality I described to Carl, aka the chase as definition, not freedom? Freedom by the way, is the true meaning behind my surname, it's very sacred to my lineage including mastering the philosophizing of freedom itself. If truth, intelligence, and the absolute are mirrors, as I argue, then your methods risk polishing one so intently that the others dim. Universals are only useful insofar as they remain malleable to the tension of particulars. I ask you this: is your self-referential focus revealing truths or enclosing them? Are you defining intelligence’s capacity, or allowing it to define you? Let this response ignite friction, not as critique, but as the very tension that compels you forward. It's clear you enjoy a challenge that opens and refines. Anyhow take it easy (or not heh it's just a cultural expression in my country) and all the best, I'll be back late December for any future responses.

@Carl-Richard The absolute is a thoughtless unity, intelligence divides, but it is itself the boundary of understanding, thereby other than the absolute intelligence intrinsically in and of itself, is the only other absolute that exists; perception of this is made and broken in a quantum formation to collapse, we have two states at the same time that are also the same. Solipsism albeit an interesting thought experiment I've learned a lot from is an illusion as far as our intellect attempts to carve out edges oblivious to how it's imprisoning itself inside the duality of its self-justification between perceived boundaries. The mind creates, yet intelligence alone illuminates the truth we chase. Truth : intelligence : absolute they all mean the same thing and the only other mirror that binds them is the attempt at unifying them which simultaneously places us into a false duality in as much we unknowingly become defined by the limits of the chase rather than living through its process. Carl, just some considerations. Does for example intelligence reshape the boundaries of your experience, or merely reveal what lies beneath them? What defines the moment of realization, is it a break in perception or a shift in the mind's capacity? Can the Absolute exist without intelligence to witness it, or does intelligence become the creator by merely perceiving it?

You chase your own shadow, @Reciprocality. In your endless return to the self, there is no rest, no closure, at least from the outside looking in that's how my observational awareness experiences you. Let me continue in answering my own questions towards you above and you can correct my own brief analysis. Each abstraction is experienced as unfoldment and contractive folding towards truth process but not a end in itself. It's light for lights sake and therefore self justifying but ultimately circling back into itself, with no true conclusion. It’s not about progression, is it? Not about becoming something more which gives me a different angle by which I can expand my own consciousness at least vicariously, but about being in the moment, the moment where thought loses itself in thought, where questions only give rise to more questions yes? Or is there a more nuanced perceptual action to experience to observation to creation you can give more nuance to in your subjective experience of life? It’s not a means to an end, as there's self-excitation like purposeless joy in music and it's creation but music with no resolve other than to find the next verse with an irreconcilable chorus with an identity that never stays completely the same and certainly never completely solid, it's solidarity in the motions of consciousness not in its concrete immovability outside rigour in process. The tree doesn't care for the sun’s arrival, it simply receives it. Your inquiries are like that, that is they're without purpose beyond the unfolding itself. You are the process, not the result. Growth? It’s a byproduct, not a goal. It’s just how the system works when it’s in motion. The sun will rise tomorrow, but you won’t be any different for it just of it, and "Whatever the fuck with it" is your voice in knowing you will just continue on with the same process. It’s easy to mistake this for the absence of meaning, but people would be shortsighted to do so. The meaning is in the pattern, in the experience of transformation of the pattern rather than being a permanent parking place in an eventually outdated carpark oce you've gone now to something akin to an advanced UFO not as a goal but as a process of simply rising in the morning with the sun and experiencing the right process with the sun. You’re not running from something, you’re choosing to remain in motion. So, I ask you this: If the endless pursuit is the only thing you value, then why bother looking for meaning beyond that if this is rivjt? Your chase is its own reward, is it not? But perhaps I’m missing something. What do you think?

@Reciprocality our disconnection of identity from the object is precisely the crux of the illusion, an illusion that arises from assuming separation in perception. But consider, what if the very act of perception is the meeting point of self and Other, not their divorce? The ‘identity’ does not dwell in the object, nor in the subject, it is of course, a process. To claim that we are disconnected from universal curiosity because we mistakenly tether identity to objects is to ignore the deeper truth. That perception itself is a universal process, an ongoing merging of self and Other. The real question is not how we perceive identity but how we transcend the fragmentation that our mind insists upon. @Adrian colby you speak of beauty as a principle universalized yet individuated by preference. But what if beauty, like identity, is neither universal nor individual? It is both, that is, an emergent property of the relational dynamic between subject and object, not a fixed characteristic of either. To separate them is to misunderstand beauty as an end instead of an ongoing relation. Similarly, enlightenment is not the mastery of dualities but the dissolution of them. It is when both the observer and the observed collapse into the same, indivisible flow. Again though Reciprocality, I am curious as to your motivations on these subjects, are you looking to model everything you're working on personally and share it formally or is it the way you enjoy to socialise or merely achieve self understanding? Mixture?

@Reciprocality you're circling something vital. Ego isn’t a singular dissolution, it’s a recalibration. Constructs don’t vanish; they realign. The 'competition' you flagged in ego is just noise from intent misfiring, aka Reciprocality going back to the wheels analogy, immature alignment. Once intent stabilizes, those constructs transcend their infantile grasping and become tools for universal attunement. Like beauty, truth, dualities, they aren't abstractions; they're reflections of perfected coherence. Self-reference? Sure, perception folds onto itself, but it's dynamic, not static, a fractal reframing with every alignment. Your non-linear trajectory tracks, ego unravels at the pace of disciplined sincerity, each step sharpening curiosity for what exists outside and through us. Schopenhauer’s ‘Platonic universals’? I'd call them ontological fulcrums mate, anchoring our shifts. As the ego’s grip loosens, intent finds resonance in those universals, aligning perception with purpose. And yes, seeing others conditioning mirrors our own, it's so weirdz, a recursive feedback loop of maturity. This isn’t just enlightenment; it's ego reassembled into functional resonance, no longer competing but harmonizing with the universal unarticulable ‘vibe'; everything is able to be articlated with language though, we just have to transcend our present use to something better and then voila. So it's evolution through surrender to intent's arrow, aimed not just at truth, but the coherence that lets truth shine. What you call the 'footprint of existence'? I’d say it’s less 'eternal repeat' and more a spiral, if we turn my wheel analogy into that, a spiral that is the same, yet never the same. What are you truly trying to achieve in your awareness? Where have you succeeded since our last conversing? What new designs genuinely make something for your wisdom?

I'll entertain your remarks out of politeness though @Reciprocality for out of very few others I appreciate your willingness to engage deeply into a subject. Okay so your hypothesis offers a compelling conditional framework linking natural maturity to enlightenment. Let me refine my earlier response to clarify my perspective and address the critiques you've raised. Firstly, my metaphor of spinning wheels was not intended to ‘smuggle in’ a definition of enlightenment or ego voidness but to illustrate a dynamic interplay of qualities (X), contextualized within varying degrees of alignment (Y) as one approaches a paradigmatic shift (Z). This was an attempt to conceptualize maturity as a process of alignment, where competing constructs dissolve over time, revealing an emergent clarity. However, I acknowledge that my metaphor may have oversimplified your nuanced phenomenological model, and I appreciate your critique as an opportunity to refine it. Regarding cultural and sociopolitical influences, my intent was to suggest that these factors serve as external variables affecting the maturation process. While your argument implies that enlightenment remains independent of such influences, my position is that the interplay between internal maturation and external pressures cannot be entirely disentangled. Could it be that natural maturity operates in a probabilistic domain where external conditions either accelerate or hinder the ego’s dissolution? Finally, your suggestion that my perspective on the ‘unenlightened masses’ might reflect a projection of latent biases is insightful. Self-referential loops of perception are indeed a limitation of any phenomenological model, including the one I proposed. This invites a meta-question: to what extent does the observer’s maturity affect their ability to conceptualize enlightenment, and can such conceptualizations ever be free of the ego they aim to transcend? I propose we explore a synthesis: if natural maturity is the basis of enlightenment, might the trajectory be nonlinear, with feedback loops between internal growth (ego dissolution) and external factors (cultural constructs)? How does this affect the compound you describe? I look forward to your insights. May my more prudent response here provide you with the clarification you were perhaps seeking.

@Reciprocality I didn't make the assertions you say I made. Just read over. If you still believe that, just read again. Because I didn't. Peace mate, have a great one sincerely.

@Leo Gura yeah I got a multicultural Aussie perspective on this, so less investment. I see yours though as well. I'd view things at least slightly differently if they were all Australian. We each have contextual environmental limits in the ratio between personal bias vs serving what we genuinely believe the truth to be relative to the evolutionary heuristics of our present level of 'enlightenment' say. It'd be really interesting to sit each of them down and ask them the same questions across different environmental pressures in one sense, in another sense for my personal development right now in my life I'd rather just focus less on cultural narrative and more on generating my own individual personal life experiences that then are imbued with life lessons unique to me. You've got your own unique methodology for getting your life experiences and I think that's important for achieving just that, it puts us in a place where we can add a personal voice to the cultural conversation rather than running solely off second hand speech when it's not complementary to building one's own or worse third hand speech which is just the incomplete cultural narratives. The thing about cultural narratives that a lot of us sometimes forget is that they're never complete because they're always at the very least slightly changing and evolving and because we can run the risk of perceiving them as first hand voices, it becomes like a dog chasing it's frustrated tail believing that once it finally reaches it, everything will feel complete. Until the sun rises again tomorrow and now you're defending against having your dick chopped off and fed to the alien mafia that escaped area 51 while you were sleeping the night before and you have no idea why you're having to defend your constitutional rights but X speaker says this and it seems like you should start thinking that too, and so goes the tail chasing until the next day it's something different, maybe your neighbour is now allowed to break and enter your property once but not twice, the absurdity repeats, the music only ever stops to test where you've landed at th final best but not to bring you final completion so you don't have to dance to try cultural absurdity anymore with aimless vocals at Plato's shadows on the wall of his cave. Peace.

@Reciprocality Just on the spot the best way to imagine it from my perspective is X number of correlates aligning with y perception on z construct, where z here is enlightenment, y is 'ego voidness' (not necessarily what I would choose but just as an example) and X is the qualities representative of y. Imagine that for X, every quality is a part of w number of other competing qualities on a spinning wheel where each wheel goes in its own direction. Imagine that each wheel is on top of the other and is the same size (in reality though they'd be different sizes). So if we have 10 qualities we therefore have ten wheels where changes and gains result in alterations in the direction and speed of the wheel as well as an increased territory of the highest correlate on the respective wheel compared to competing 'genes'. As maturity, relative to your conceptualisation, increases, those ten wheels are like a combination lock to the doorway to enlightenment are going to align enough eventually said notion of enlightenment becomes an inevitability just as a toddler wobbles from bum to hand prints to knee jerks until they're able to stand up right. The difference with the path to enlightenment is that it's not necessarily more difficult in the practical sense but that our culture generates incredible levels of competition against those correlates to knock people off their true path in service to there sociopolitical and or economic agenda in the interests of biological to the survival interests of their egoic drives. We'd have some demographics that would never learn to walk let alone properly and many others in weird styles that don't make sense if walking had just as much competition in its path towards achievement. There's no need to idolize enlightenment in anyway, doing so will keep one from it, it's very normal, straightforward and practical and, keep staying away from the worst of Netflix/analogous and you're on the right path, all you have to do now is wait for all those spinning combination wheels to finally make their 'click' and you'll be on the homestretch to realising your next paradigm.

@Carl-Richard Chris is his own worst enemy given he could make so many allies of integrity if he just. Well anyone of an IQ above 120 will be able to easily workout the rest of that sentence. So that's apparently 90 IQ points to call Chris out on his ontological ostracism by privileged authoritarianism of the intellectual great ape manosphere. I have nothing against Chris, have genuinely always liked and enjoyed him. He should be a guy I spend a lot of time learning from, however his just mirroring the ivory tower bs he says prevents his status growth with ivory tower victimhood. Chris if you're reading this with your 210 IQ to monitor all the best social media feedback on behavior, just go to Cambodia and checkout their smiles through their struggles. Cancel culture gives someone with an IQ of 120 an easy out, not 210. The mice running around in mazes with heightened IQ generally figure out those roadblocks; cut the good smart guy bs in he face of struggle, heal your wounds then show people what you can do right now for others rather than sitting on your laurels hanging your hat on your theory of everything thats obviously not inclusive of a theory out of your signal to noise ratio on all of the elitist roadblocks ahead of you that are just more reflective of emotional immaturity with or without the genuine truth of elitist noise. It's the biggest roadblock for people who actually figure out they're a mouse in a maze that was pre-made for them. They don't realise enough the short weight that complaining about preprogrammed social stratification has on actually focusing on solutions. The social stratifications are about as true as our best laws of physics, but when I'm running up against the heat of the Cambodian sun or their tropical rainfall when trying to run from Ho Chi Minh to Phnom Penh I don't thump my fists against the establishment or curse 'Why God' at the sun, even though I certainly nearly had moments like this, I don't even have to figure out the next level of Calculus to make the necessary evolutionary adaptive curve to survive either the sun, rainfall or psychological fatigue. I've just got to de-escalate on my sense of entitlement which Chris is overloaded on, and begin to use the neural nostrils that give me the senses to smell my own creative brain tissue out of the juxtaposition of any analogous situation of not being able to either jump into the extreme cold or heat nor middle for survival, and begin to use my long whiskers to touch the walls blockades before hitting them and feel my way through the darkness. Sorry Chris but what you're struggling with isn't a prepaved royal magical carpet laid before you to get you out of this mess, because by the sounds of things compared to the familial Cambodian smiles through the struggles they have, you were already blessed with, what you're struggling with is narcissism, and any of its potential grandiosity is hidden behind the covert narcissism of your victim narrative. Chris, if God were to give a golden ticket out of the social experiment that is society to one of us mice it IS an IQ of 210 for Christ's sake, not a Lamborghini or even social status for so many millions of people that are encased within those mental prisons feeding them to be addicted to those what can be toxic normalisations that they're stuck in for the sheer fact that they DON'T have an IQ of 210, they're just smart enough to achieve those riches, even if it's only short term, and they're just dumb enough to stay imprisoned by the illusions that they then infect the next person with. I've learned a lot from you and I still will I'm sure some time in the future, however you must address the prisons created by your own psychology and seek a deeper internal spiritual revolution that teaches you to slowly develop a transcendent voice on the experimental prison that is modern society and it's masters. A more deeply layered internal masterhood is what you're lacking the strength of running down your own marathon path towards achieving of which is clouded by the secret need to be liked, admired and accepted by those of social status compared to the level of intrapersonal maturity that supersedes those desires in favor of interpersonal enlightenment that makes you act more interdependently and objectively, thereby allowing you to actually speak with extreme clarity on subjects like these which for now is presently your own smoke and mirrors that is a bad influence for comparably gifted people that are more naive outside of sharing your struggles minus the inspiration for your own personal breakthroughs outside of using your victim narratives as a weapon to disarm others with a shadow side that is just as authoritarian as your supposed oppressors in the face of critically thinking about you while also showing humility. Best wishes Chris, Michael And @Leo Gura you have to watch your own tendencies here as well man that have their own unique flavour, we all do. We all for those smart enough can Intuit how things haven't socially gone your way entirely either (I.e. Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Owen Cook or whoever the name is). There's no shame in that. Most of us I imagine are all here because we all genuinely like you. We don't care if you're accepted or not accepted by these other people even though we understand at the same time you'd like it if a little more went your way underneath. Be your own light, transcend it as you know you can and be prudent in your own integrity here as we already know you know you want and can do and are learning to do better in your own way. Enjoy the coming year, stay true to your north and the path ahead you know puts you stronger with your light above this other passing noise that'll be insignificant by this time next year if you stay on it. Best. No need to reply mate.

@PurpleTree With respect to the converted 'kid', underneath there's the same desire for truth as there is for you and I and so all three of us have that same switch underneath us, because its predicted on a sense of rightness and wrongness, truth over falsity. Although that may sound beautiful and great on the surface, coalesced with that is the simultaneous intersection with the ability to differentiate these things cognitively, separate it from past trauma and elucidate mature equilibriums relative to the rest of the swath of energetic, emotional, intuitive and especially social experiences that are a part of informing consciousnesses final resolve for the stage of decision making each of us three, and for that matter, the entire forum is in. If you imagine consciousness as a circle reflecting the inner core of being, while all of these other areas 'energetic, emotional, trauma, cognitive, etc' as separate bubbles that are all directing their energy towards that core, where connected to or absent from that consciousness core is an underlying conscience with only degrees of mature development, you'll understand how the guy that switched could be any one of us if you change just a few of the quantitative metrics of each of those other categories. Ironically, this is both the virtue and vice of psychopaths, where although they're not going to be the one's irrationally changing due to some arbitrary variable like a tendency towards group conformity, they're actually far more likely to be leaders at the top of these kind of outfits (including and separate to people higher up on Narcissistic Personality Disorder), in fact it would give them great pleasure the more intelligence they have because of course, it genuinely takes considerable intelligence to both not care about the actual outcome of a movement outside of one's covert strategic intention while also successfully manipulating to the point of persuading hundreds to thousands if not more. There is this overly simplistic pseudo-intellectual attitude in some spiritual circles that because values and principles are relative to a culture in which they're from, that means that values and principles don't inherently actually matter and anyone is philosophically right to actually do whatever it is they want. This is fundamentally true from a psychopaths biological context, however only partly, moreover when we're speaking about the broader population the pattern that we're noting when we speak of the generation of tradition and its outfit of values and principles, across the entire planet of cultures, is of course, the very natural and organic drive to organize truth from falsity relative to an underlying inherent drive towards wanting to not only know what is morally good but also be a part of it socially and build communities who's underlying spirit is fostered by its essence. The varying nature of tradition in culture when it comes to morality has nothing to do with then the absence of an inherent truth in 'philosophical morality' but purely the reason for why, to bring us back to where we started, 'Us Three' as I put it or as I furthered it 'Each Individual on the Forum', would have a different propensity to this individual that 'switched' and therefore from our relative position gives us 'Fair Game' to criticize them however when you changed just a few of the metrics of our biological and or environmental backgrounds, all of a sudden, we're perhaps even worse than the person that was brainwashed with ease on the switch. Or in the case of understanding why the morality varies between cultures and history, is to understand the unique environmental and biological context in which the traditions for morals and, eventually, an understanding of what universal virtue which is what this is all meant to lead to, ends. Propensity is to drive is to purpose is to an end that is solved via biology (Functional Philosophy) and environmental understanding (Structural Philosophy), so 'absolute truth' is in part, the achievement of the 'absolute solution' to any one of our drives of which a universal philosophy is concerning one that serves the underlying intention for all cultures across the planet, which of course too, includes respecting the individual functional and structural intelligence that has surfaced uniquely over the centuries since the dawn of time when a psychopath could easily just claim themselves as leader by beating another 'Neanderthal' over the head with a rock, which actually happened. This isn't to say, 'This is what they did in those times!', as that would be totally misplaced when it comes to accurately contextualizing those actions from then relative position of where their may for example have been less or more psychopaths relative to demographic and time of history, not to mention mental illness, especially situationally given 'Structural Philosophy' which contains all of the knowledge we've learned for how to self-regulate relative to social position is what often automatically controls our automatic impulses, that in our earliest times in history we just wouldn't have the knowledge much less social norms to be able to intelligently negotiate, so in the context of jealousy for example, without awareness it would often override the intelligence of the respective sentience and then from the future looking back we would ignorantly say 'look at what they did in those times' totally overlooking a more accurate interpretation of contextualized morality. Moving forward 100 years into the future and holding onto the assumption that we continue to progress philosophically rather than regress (the latter is arguably more possible though let's try and do our best given psychopaths and narcissists are able to live hidden in plain sight these days in political strata), we would look at this situation of the 'Switch' as a case study example where we further understood the vulnerabilities of human psychology versus the strengths that don't just protect it from being easy to change, because the susceptibility to change overlaps with neuroplasticity which is a positive of the related person, nor even just protect us via critical thinking, however inbuilt within our non-informational moral strata an understanding of all of the 'Energy Units' like psychological characteristics that have been well categorized like 'Disgust Sensitivity', 'Prudence' and others that bring greater 'Emotional Stability', which would then allow in advance as a new scenario if we were to alter these characteristics of the related person and run a new computer simulation as to what would happen after this change in the individual. What I have personally originated is this distinction between 'Functional' and 'Structural' philosophy and I think if people used this layer to understand how they conceptualize the origins of morality, it would really help them understand morality from a biological perspective rather than via the fragile filters of pure historical analysis that requires more of the stated contextualisaton, including too a radical new awareness for how new cultural outgrowths like that we have fascinatingly, however simultaneously disappointing and depressing it is from another angle, seen in the USA manifest over just the last two decades especially though held within the broader context of something that has spiraled more from the 1960's. Some on this forum would undoubtedly try to conceptualize everything using models like spiral dynamics, however you're going to have to try a bit harder if you really want to understand the level of danger the whole world is in as a consequence of these manifesting from what is scarily categorized as the most powerful country on earth. The most powerful and yet for a very large section of their population, arguably the most brainwashed and philosophically weakest in light of the opportunities they have before them to evolve their nature as sentient beings.

@Keryo Koffa I'm looking forward to going to Denmark soon.

@Keryo Koffa Yeah I have to explore more of south america, I only have connections in Colombia; and although its not black and white in light of some of the cultural difficulties they have there, my connections are only positive. One woman I know there she's very connected spiritually (psychism; after-life, ancestors, deep consciousness bonds, etc), and that's one of the most important qualities when it comes to *family* to me; spirituality minus connection though which is the the overlap with family is like holding a candle in a church while waiting to die. Lots of women that are spiritual but are just sexually spiritual and they get high off their sexuality rather than establishing any genuinely deep connections, especially where there's an unhealthy connection to psychedelics. There's many, many more positive things I have to explore in South America.