Mellowmarsh

Also remember God said I am in the world but not of it. The things that are seen are temporal, but the things that are not seen are eternal. There is a light within a man of light, and it lights up the whole world. If it does not shine, he is in darkness. I was blind but now I see. The way to perfection is through a series of humiliations of the false self.

I absolutely agree 💯 Your job is to know yourself, forget about others, they’re just doing their own job, which is no one else’s business, but their own. It’s a filthy job but someone’s got to do it. 😉 Take care. For care is for the taking, it’s already here waiting to be grabbed by both hands. 🙌

You’re welcome, anytime bro. 👊 God never said it would be easy, just that it would be worth it. The journey back to the garden. From self to self, an endless spring. 🫶

@kavaris You don’t know what anything is until you conceptualise it. Including yourself, you don’t know what or who you are until you conceptualise it, in this conception. In this not knowing known.

@kavaris Let’s just go back to what you said earlier. You asked what does that mean. I answered: A chair is not a chair until you say it is. So it’s up to you to find meaning in meaningless. To question what does that mean is to not know meaning, until you do know meaning, and that will be your answer.

Who said anything about cancelling out what’s already conceived? How can you cancel the conception of yourself? And how would you know you’ve been cancelled, if there’s no conception of you who could know ?

God must have intention, you have a mind, a mind that can be removed or not, it’s a choice you give to yourself. It’s called free will, unconditional love. You don’t even need psychedelics to remove limitations. This can be realised without the intervention of bugger sugar.

No problem, take all the time you need. Godspeed.

You cannot cancel out a thing that you have already created, conceived it as a thing.

A chair is not a chair until you say it’s a chair, what does chair mean to you?

Yes, and timeless and boundless too, appearing as time bound. Infinite movements with the unmoved silent still brilliant sea of unconditionally free love. It’s all good because it’s all free. For my love there is no charge. That’s God.

Yes you can. A thing is not a thing, until it’s conceived of as the thing it’s not. Are you not conceiving the words in the moment they are being written, of course you are.

Only death is real. You have never known death. What appears to be known is unreality. Nothing matters. Nothing is real.

Excellent. Yes, we all have the capacity to recognise this because we are this. Turiya (meaning "the fourth") is the fourth state of consciousness that acts as a pure, silent witness beyond the three everyday states of waking, dreaming, and deep sleep. Sometimes metaphorically called a "fourth-dimensional" or transcendental state of pure awareness, it underlies and pervades all ordinary human experiences. There’s not even any distance between the perceiver and the perceived because distance implies there’s something to attain, something to reach, while this is already closer than your very own skin. Infinity is the Absolute. Here now, everywhere and nowhere. Not a thing and all things. This, just this. One without a second. That which is blind, deaf, dumb, senseless, tasteless, unfeeling….arising/ appearing as sight, hearing, speaking, sensation, flavour, and emotion.

One cannot know the Absolute because one is the Absolute. I’ve always understood that. Yes, this understanding is still a knowing recognised upon awakening to the illusory dream of separation. That’s how I personally interpret the Absolute. And is why the illusion of separation was a necessary intelligence. I personally don’t see a problem using the word illusion. To me, it’s just another word for appearance, which comes and goes. Anyways, thanks for your personal interpretation, if that’s how you see it there, then that’s fine by me, I don’t really have any argument with how others interpret their reality, because we all have opinions, that are true for each of us. The undifferentiated Absolute doesn’t give a shiny shite about human opinions formed by human language anyway, so nothing has changed, there’s only the Absolute, all one, alone. Everything else is just linguistics, aka illusions/ appearances.

In my personal experience I think just knowing you are aware of being conscious is stressful whether one is working a job or not, it’s just stressful being conscious, period. Being conscious is far more stressful than say being unconscious because there’s no sense of self present in unconsciousness, there’s no knowledge of anything while unconscious. Could you just be addicted to the dopamine hit that nicotine gives you, and is why you choose to smoke? I smoke cigarettes like crazy these days, only because smoking gives me pleasure, I enjoy pleasure , of course, who doesn’t. . and I don’t seem to care if this pleasure is going kill me or do my body great harm, it might not kill me, I don’t know until I know. I’m presently in the mindset of not caring if I live or die, because I understand death to be the end of knowledge. I understand that as a self aware being, I’m going to die eventually anyway. I understand that death is the only certainty in life and I’m completely okay with that. In fact I’d be a terrible nervous wreck consumed with stress if death wasn’t a certainty. I can only imagine living forever to be the worst thing that could happen to me, living forever would be a curse more stressful than the thought of dying would. So I guess my tranquility is rooted in not caring whether I live or die. I don’t mind what happens.

@Adrian colby I’m not saying anything about loneliness. I’m talking about the recognition that one is alone. Yet it appears as the many, so every other one is alone too. The human being has been conditioned from birth to believe in division not wholeness. We’ve believed in the sense of division separateness, but can also see that division is illusory, in the context of intuitively knowing the every other one is alone too. Our conditioning from birth is to accept division as the only knowing we know, but then we can later on question this division through introspection only to discover this division is illusory and that there is only the one not the many. This requires a shift in perception of course, and not everyone chooses to make that shift. And for some that do, it can effect their sense of sanity in a very adverse way. Other people will feel the opposite where their sense of sanity is improved 10 fold. The recognition is to understand there’s only oneness, all one, alone. That oneness unity, is never lost sight of, because it is recognised as the truth of what we already are. This truth can feel like loneliness to some people, but again that feeling of loneliness is just another illusion, because how can an illusion be lonely, it cannot.

Same way a still wind becomes still.

When “something” is known - “nothing” is known in the exact same instant knowing arises, one with the knowing. One with, implies a there’s a duality present. The only thing known for absolute certain is that there is an awareness of being Aware, one with the knowing in the immediacy knowing arises. ( duality present ) Nothing else is known beyond the immediacy of this immediate aware presence. Everything else is linguistic aka thoughts, all of which are the illusion of maya.

All words are descriptive as “something known” in this conception, something is known, and this something knows nothing. That’s the illusion of duality known in the instant knowing arises, one with the knowing. One ( absolute ) - ( non dual ) cannot know itself without splitting into (knower and known ) ( subject and object ) duality. That’s the necessary illusion that must be for any “thing” to be known, albeit illusory, because “ things “ known , know nothing.

A nonduality teacher can never teach another person what’s being spoken. They’ll have nothing to give you. There’s no teacher, only speaking, only the message, only the listening and only the hearing of the message. Only when the message is heard with absolute clarity is the message listened to, heard. People either hear the message or they don’t, no other person can be your listening or hearing. Only you. From the moment pure clarity is heard…there’s no more teacher or student, or message. There’s just you and you alone.

No one is denying this.