Mellowmarsh

It’s not not true either. It’s an idea. A thought. THOUGHT existed first before any thing else. Can THOUGHT be denied to exist, does a THOUGHT not exist? The answer to that question is absolutely NOT. Not this. Not that. Both, yet neither.

@Someone here The OP is nothing but your own personal dream. You’re the only one dreaming the content of your own mind from the perspective of You there. And so from the perspective of You there, there’s absolutely nothing else happening. …. Many authors appear, but there’s only ONE reading the writings no one writ.

You’re making a lot of assumptions here. Ask for clarification first, instead of just presenting your own representative model of what you think others are talking about. Firstly , the guy is actually a girl. And I never implied infinite consciousness as a bad. I said there’s no escaping it, which is a valid point. Sometimes the ego is misinterpreted as being something that must be permanently eliminated for awakening to be fully realised, but that’s just a false belief. The ego is very much in the drivers seat when it comes to self-realisation. The ego is both present before and after any apparent awakening. So there’s zero escape from this sense of separation, or individual (I) It’s not bad or good, it’s absolutely neither. Because the absolute reality is completely mute and indifferent to human opinion, owing absolutely nothing in the way of our endless questions that are never answered for one very good reason. There’s no formless without form. The formless is form. This consciousness cannot escape the sense of separation in favour of unconsciousness because the sense of self and the body are identical twins, conjoined infinitely for eternity, appearing as every conceivable shape and form. Popping in and out of existence forever like the inbreath and outbreath. Like sleeping then awaking…then sleeping…there’s no break in this seamless symmetry, certainly no escape.

And yes. This world is a trap to every known conscious agent. Because awakening informs infinite consciousness that there’s no way out of infinite consciousness. And that sleep is one’s only relief.

But of course there’s also a YOU as well, there’s something identifiable, the objective world of others exist. The external world is not being denied here, it exists as a dream exists, where this apparent real You, can be seen as a not You, an unreal You. There’s nothing that is Seeing You. You is known conceptually, never SEEN

Because vision is only forward facing, it proves consciousness has no beginning, or that it’s not coming from some past, rather, consciousness is appearing only now, eternal present. It cannot be freeze framed into having a beginning or end. Consciousness is simply popping in and popping out of existence at any random juncture within infinity. There’s no discernible start or end to consciousness, because it’s the absolute source of existence. From source to source an endless spring.

It could also possibly function in a cyclical fashion. Maybe why the arrows on the clocks never move in an anti-clockwise fashion the same reason river’s never run backwards, or that seeing can only see what’s in front and never what’s behind. Did life ever have a beginning. Or, is life just an endless seamless stream of energy appearing, disappearing, and reappearing, infinitely for eternity?

I’ve been reading a lot of your posts lately , for no reason other than they never fail to draw me in to a truth that is so raw and unfiltered that it’s probably very difficult to be heard by some readers. Personally what I’m reading when I read your posts is an exact model of how I would present my own personal mental musings when thinking upon these same thought things. Once the illusion of separation is shattered there’s no returning to it. That’s why I’ve often heard people talk about awakening as a realisation that most people wouldn’t want. Although it’s not even some state to achieve anyway. The recognition is often a purely spontaneous process brought about by just being a self aware agent who is capable of self reflection. Not everyone identifies with their reflection as being unreal,, rather they prefer to identify it as being real.

Consciousness being likened to water, is this imageless infinity reflecting transient images upon contact.

The phrase "The wild geese do not intend to cast their reflection; the water has no mind to receive their image" is a line from a Zen poem that illustrates the principle of spontaneous, unforced action and acceptance. It suggests that things happen naturally without conscious effort or desire, a concept often used to teach mindfulness and letting go of attachments. The geese do not try to create their image, and the water does not try to hold it, yet the reflection appears and disappears as a natural occurrence. Spontaneous action: The geese fly and the reflection appears without any intention or goal from either the geese or the water. Non-attachment: The poem teaches that it is natural for things to be transient. The water has no need to "keep" the image, just as the geese have no need to "cast" it. Natural flow: The line is often used to encourage a way of being that is free from self-consciousness and unnecessary effort, allowing events to unfold naturally. Metaphor for life: It's a metaphor for living in the present moment, noticing beauty without clinging to it, and accepting the natural, changing flow of life.

If you’re looking for self-help, why would you read a book written by someone else? If you’re looking for self-help, why would you watch a video created by someone else? If you’re looking for self-help, why would you listen to someone else? If you are looking for self-help, why would you tell yourself you need help? Why are you unhappy? Because 99.9 percent of everything you think, and of everything you do, is for yourself—and there isn't one. I have a self? No. Once this self idea is abolished, there’s nothing else to say or do, but die, except if you really must enjoy reading Fairy Stories.

Why do you like helping yourself? Dopamine. Dope is mine. I’m a dope addict.

The only direct experience is the experience of no one is experiencing experience. The "self" is not a true subject but an object, a collection of thoughts and feelings that the ego tries to protect for the body's survival.

Thanks Ivan for helping me to see through the illusion of a thing called a solipsist.

No solipsist either. Concepts belong to the dream of known things which are images of the imageless. Therefore, all known things, know nothing.

Yes. Infinite Pure Consciousness is this invisible vision. Real vision is the ability to see the invisible. The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike. Grounding in silence and stillness.

Infinity, beginnings, ends, life, death are all parts of the same reality, are just made-up useful concepts, and don't exist in isolation. I read a comment on this forum the other day by Leo Gura. It said “ Infinity is Death” but I can’t remember whereabouts I’d seen it written, I mean which thread it was on. Anyways, I thought about it a lot because it resonates deeply as just another concept that cannot know anything about anything because concepts have no awareness of their existence. What are your thoughts about this?

Infinity Leo answered your question. Everyone is you with a different view. Infinity is you.

AI knowing - is NOT-Knowing. That’s how NOThing knows itself as Not-Knowing ART IS real. Nature is ARTifical.

🙌 It’s really that simple, almost too simple. Surly it can’t be that simple, yes, it’s even simpler than simple, and for simple minds only. 🤭

I was just here reading when you responded. 🤭 “Good one, but no, it's just a thought responding to a thought. Which is all consciousness (interacting with itself). Dodo and ivankiss and Mellowmarsh are not the thinkers of thoughts... they are just thoughts.” 😂👍

@ivankiss Thanks for the link to here. 🙂

I am actually interested in checking out the “AI” contemplating reality thread. But I don’t know where it is. Could you send me the link. Thanks.

@Ishanga Nice!👌

Nice One!