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People that have revealed you your true biases have all been banned by you or your mods.

@Natasha Tori Maru I would have never thought that you are 40, you look much younger than your age. Very intelligent and also logical person, your thoughts are very well structured. One interview and being able to see a live human instread of an avatar reveals to me a lot more about a person than if I was to read 1000 posts

@Emerald I know we’ve disagreed in the past on a different topic, but it’s genuinely been a pleasure reading the gold you’ve been posting here. You’ve articulated the truth with remarkable eloquence and delicacy, putting into words an observation that I think is shared by many people who have spent enough time on this forum and paid attention to the same patterns. It's remarkable to me that there are people who say that they "been doing this work" for many years and yet can't spot the obvious pattern that seems to be lying on the surface.

You couldn't have put it any better, one of the best posts in this thread imo. Good luck though trying to get this a person who believes he is the most conscious person in the world to understand this.

Coming from someone who claims to be the most conscious human on this planet (levels of consciousness that no one has reached) is just hilarious.

You keep describing it as being “accused,” but that is already the frame through which you’re interpreting what people are saying. That is the way your ego frames it. Just because someone is observing a pattern or being critical of you doesn’t necessarily mean they are accusing you of something. The same applies to “I’m being accused” and “you think you’re right and I’m wrong.” Those are frames you’re putting on the conversation and to me, another example of the ego reacting, rather than neutral descriptions of what is actually being said. What do you think is more likely, that there is something here you may not be seeing in yourself, or that all these different people who have independently pointed out a similar pattern are the ones lacking something?

Just because you don't have a partner or kids does not make it a higher option.

The fact that you take it as people "accusing" you of having a spiritual ego speaks for itself. Perhaps in some years you will look back and realize what you were told, but at this point nothing more can be said to you.

Totally agree, very underrated post in this thread.

I never said that those differences don't exist.

Multiple people already in this thread have clearly pointed out you having a spiritual ego. This is another clear example of it. Until you stop dividing people into "higher" and "lower" consciousness categeries etc, nothing good will come out of it. Putting Leo on a pedestal (who is in his 40s single and without kids) and thinking that you are above others are just few symptoms over the bigger issue at play here. Dropping "spirituality" or trying to be "spiritual" is probably the best that you can do, for yourself and for your dating life at this point. Yes you can be spiritual without being "spiritual" , at some time that role will have to be dropped.

@Miguel1 Have you considered the possibility that your framework of “higher” and “lower” consciousness could itself be flawed? In my opinion, for someone who has been involved in spirituality and self-development for as long as you have, the whole concept of “higher consciousness” versus “lower consciousness” is something that should eventually be dropped. It can be a useful framework in the beginning and intermediate stages, but at a certain point, going further requires that framework itself to be dropped or transcended. All of this overconceptualization could actually be what’s holding you back, and in general, I just don’t think it’s a particularly healthy mindset to have.

What makes you think that it is a "higher" stage? Human beings are social creatures and he mentioned that he is an extrovert as well. Higher stage is building healthy, nourishing, fullfilling relationships imo, which is what he desires

I would say it has more to do with certain types of people in general, not just women. The more someone’s image (or identity) is built around being , "highly conscious", more developed, unusually compassionate, wise etc the less I take that image as evidence of those qualities. Character is revealed much more reliably by how someone behaves when their values become inconvenient, especially toward people they dislike, disagree with, or have nothing to gain from. Authenticity is something that cannot be faked.

@LordFall She did the same thing with me. Just ignored my main point, pretended like she didn't notice it. She made me repeat it and for the 3rd time she just said "declined" and did not go any further. I thought it was just with me, but looks like it's a pattern.

Of course! @LordFall is a rare gem btw, his advice could not be more true. Notice how he totally ignored the @yetineti troll and recognized that he added no value. You can't win with discussions with trolls, they force you to step down to their level and thus bring you down with them. Ignoring users like that is the best approach, it is not possible to have genuine discussions with them.

I don't need to read the private messages to understand what that user is doing in this thread. Reading the last 20 pages of this thread alone is enough to make this conclusion.

I thought the issue was resolved by now, yet I come back 12 hours later and there are 20 more pages. I decided to go through all the pages and this is what I found: The same user @yetinetihas made roughly 70% of the all the posts in this thread, with seemingly endless trolling and attacks. He literally gave himself out earlier by calling @Inliytened1 old man twice, among other things. When he was called out, he toned it down and continued with more sophisitcated trolling. For the last 20 pages, this appears to be the only person who has had a problem with the thread. No one else. It is sad that @Natasha Tori Maru has not been able to spot this. @Leo Gura Please review @yetineti 's post history in this thread.

I come back here 14 hours later and it’s still going, with even more white knights piling on. As has already been said, people who accuse others of being judgmental are often some of the most judgmental people themselves. That’s the irony of it all. You got a user yetineti straight out calling @Inliytened1 old man, while demanding apology and accountability from him, are you kidding me? Only one woman has actually come forward saying she was offended, and she also happens to be a mod. For some reason retraction and apology is not enough for Natasha. I think @LordFall nailed it when he said this thread has triggered a lot of shadows. I don't think I have seen this much projection in a while. As I said, the title of this thread makes it obvious what it is about and what type of content it will contain. You don't have to read it and get your feelings hurt, if the language that it uses is not acceptable for you. Simply don't read it, you don't need to torture yourself. Hopefully the thread can get back on track and people can answer the question: Where have you fucked the girl?

1) & 2) You are now again being dishonest and changed the meaning of what I said. I never said that people can't criticize. All I said was that for people who find it offensive can choose not to read it and then they will not be offended. Same thing as choosing to not watch a video that may be offensive to some viewers. 3) You are the one that uses the terms "right", "wrong" , "low quality" , "lower consciousness" , etc. I have never once used any of these terms, or anything similar. And yes, saying that I accused you of being immoral is a lie in this case. 4) Before throwing around terms, you should at least know what they actually mean. You clearly don’t understand what constitutes a personal attack. None of those are personal attacks. This is my last reply to you.

I will not accept anymore lies or BS from you. 1) You either don't know what "policing" or "accusing" means, or you are just making being totally dishonest. 2) All I said was that a person has a choice. If you don't like the language used in the thread, nobody is forcing them to read it. 3) I have never accused you of being immoral, all I said was that you were petty. 4) I have not made a single personal attack against you. Show me one example.

I have presented my argument TWICE, and I repeated it for you already, yet you conveniently ignored it. Here it is for the 3rd time:

Who appointed you the arbiter of truth and morality, and put you in charge of policing this thread?

Their psychology is mind boggling to me. They are struggling with getting laid, yet here you are with such vast experience in exactly that. Instead of learning from you, asking you questions, and trying to understand what works, they choose to engage in this petty bullshit instead.

First of all, he already retracted and apologized for anyone he already offended for those two terms. The fact that you continue to bring it up after he has apologized says a lot more about you as a person than it does about him. Second of all, those terms were used for past experiences, and he didn't insult anyone in particular on this forum or someone he is engaging with now. Who appointed you to be arbiter of morality and truth? If you put as much time and energy into your dating life as you do getting offended over pity things, you’d probably have a lot more success.