What Am I

This warning is a funny coincidence considering the post I just made about the dangers of combining 5-MeO-DMT and harmalas lol. I'll take this to heart and do my due diligence in research. I have seen quite a few examples where people combine the 4-sub tryptamines with ketamine, so I think the safety profile looks a little better. Caution is always warranted though.

Ah nice, just watched it, good stuff. Thank you @Leo Gura for seemingly always having preexisting content (posts, videos, and otherwise) relating to whatever has caught my interest. Thanks man, this is helpful in making a decision. I'm guessing you must mean 5-MeO-MALT as opposed to the standalone MALT. Though I've heard some people like MALT as well. I wonder how the easier substances like AL-LAD and 4-HO-MET would mix with a small dose of ketamine. Maybe the slight dissociation and calming effect would help the mind get into the ideal state to best take advantage of their potential, without the negatives that can come from excessive amounts of ketamine and other dissos (an actual loss of conscious presence in my case). I've tried this a number of times with 5-MeO-DMT, and I'd say it was mostly successful. But I hear the psychs that mainly affect 5-HT2A receptors are more profoundly synergistic with ketamine, so I wonder how it'd change the trip for the substances that can sometimes be considered boring on their own due to a limited headspace.

I'll give this a try at some point and share how it goes. I've used 5-MeO-DMT a good number of times mixed with low doses of ketamine, and that was pretty interesting.

Good to know, a euphoric fun time is what I'm going for with the hope there's still at least some spiritual headspace. I'd love to try 5-MeO-MiPT. It's on my list for sure, but it seems it's not easily obtainable anymore. I hear some of the precursor ingredients were banned.

@Davino can you tell me more about your experience with AL-LAD? Did you find it worthwhile? The only lysergamides I've tried were LSD and HBWR seeds, and neither were great experiences imo. Anyone else who's used AL-LAD please feel free to chime in.

That's so interesting, and it's familiar to what I've read about other full kundalini awakenings. My understanding is it's essentially an awakening of your unconscious/superconscious into your conscious experience. That'd explain the wellspring of creativity, since your individual expression as Francis777 is now a more robust tap into the source of all things. If you're thinking the cause of your symptoms could at least partially relate to baggage in your subconscious mind becoming illuminated and more apparent, that certainly seems plausible.

Yeah, no doubt. If psychedelics are used properly, with spiritual practice and effort outside their use as well, they can bring out the best of you while helping purify the worst of you. A high dose trip of 5-MeO-DMT (especially repeated trips over time) has the tangible benefit of clearing your literal energetic system. The clearer it is, the more translucent your sense of self can become. You may find yourself having intuitive shocks of realization when sober that you're actually the very reality you're observing. It's very much an experiential thing and not a conceptual thing. I don't claim to be a master of any type, but that's how it's been for me. You may also get a badass experience like this:

Right, I can confirm this is not the degree it awakened for me. But I've heard of it happening in books, videos, forums, etc. I remember reading a post from at least one other member on this forum who also described it. I'm sure it feels like a curse now, but I sincerely hope it becomes a blessing for you later.

That's cool, whatever you'd like to share or not share is fine. To give a bit from my side, I experienced kundalini syndrome to a minor and intermittent degree during my first year of weekly 5-MeO-DMT use. It'd always happen for a few days to a week after usage. Especially near the beginning, I would have some pretty gnarly symptoms. It's like I was forcefully pulled into the moment to a ridiculous degree by a raw electrical energy I could feel throughout my body. That might sound cool to some, but anyone who's had the symptoms knows it's like an unpleasant and extreme fight or flight response. It's truly like tripping when sober, and the lines between them blur. During one especially difficult bout, my resting heart rate was ~140 bpm for 6 days straight and I had insomnia the whole time. It was not comfortable in the least. I'm pretty sure it has to do with an atrophied aspect of the nervous system that wasn't yet up to spec to deal with the increased demand of more life energy. Thankfully I adapted and that no longer happens. I bet if you can keep hope and stay strong, the same may happen for you one day. It sounds like you had one of those deeper kundalini awakenings like in Gopi Krishna's book, "Living with Kundalini". I must admit, I can't imagine what that would be like. But Gopi Krishna did eventually adapt. On a side note, most people in the 5meo community would call those reactivations. I don't think they realize it's actually kundalini syndrome. It was only when I had my first "reactivation" that I realized what it actually was.

Man, sounds like you lucked out on genes or whatever it is that determines a propensity to awakening. Some people just seem primed to pop without much external assistance. Sure wish I had that, but maybe you earned it in some way we don't fully understand. I'm with you on the importance of the groundwork and substances being a tool. That's a good point when you bring up recreational users being clueless about all things spiritual despite being immersed in it without realizing. It's definitely not a free pass.

Was yours due to psychedelic use?

It's interesting Taoism (and most of Buddhism for that matter) don't seem to teach a term and concept directly equivalent to kundalini, though they do teach about the vital energy associated with it. It seems to me that real kundalini awakening is a stand-alone mechanism itself, at least worthy of a name lol. Perhaps it's due to the potential dangers.

This is a cool video about kundalini. I find most of the content on this YT channel to be good.

I love this, really awesome insight. We're not dealing with a hack humans have created to modify their physiology in some unnatural way, but rather we're turning on and waking up inborn likely atrophied spiritual organs of perception. Why this is a mystery to the vast majority of society is anybodies guess, but it's definitely real regardless of not being recognized by modern science. I'd echo pretty much @Davino's entire post.

For me, most psychedelics are like an incredibly powerful and effective mental therapy session. But 5-MeO-DMT/MALT are in a league of their own in the sense they produce elevated states which are practically legendary throughout history. Having a legitimate kundalini awakening and going into full nirvikalpa samadhi will put your body and mind through a natural purification process that burns away your sense of individual self. Even lower doses using these substances seem to more or less trigger this process. It makes it much easier to have a spiritual practice outside of psychedelic use, which is where their true value lies in my opinion. It's like a helicopter ride to the top of a mountain. You're taken back down afterward, but it's so much easier to climb up manually when you have an idea of the terrain. And come on guys, no need to bully @Princess Arabia . I find her musings to be pretty accurate, and she has access to the same reality as us whether she's ingested drugs or not. Though I do agree psychedelics can be profoundly beneficial for the right person in the right circumstances. Certainly not arguing that.

Thanks for the suggestions. I did try 2C-B a few years ago and it's definitely easy on the mind, but phenethylamines in general just don't agree with me for whatever reason. I get a lot of tension and bizarre body sensations. I'm not really a fan of lysergamides either. Tryptamines have always been where it's at. I agree with your general philosophy of fun involving drugs being a borrowing of tomorrow's happiness today. I just think certain psychedelics have a way of bypassing the rule to some degree. Using pharma as an example, it's as if it would activate my own innate joy and bliss tied to my experience of Self, as opposed to something like MDMA which squeezes the serotonin and dopamine out of my brain. And my pharma hangover would amount to being ever so slightly fatigued the rest of the day, whereas I'm sure you know the horrors that MDMA can produce for days later. I'm starting to realize my answer already exists in the form of pharma lol. I guess I'm just curious what else is out there though.

I keep reading this as well. I guess it could be some superficial chemical quirk that causes the color to change.

This is definitely the one I have my eye on. 40mg seems way up there in terms of dose though. I'm thinking more along the lines of 10-20mg based on what I've read, but I guess experimentation is needed. Have you tried lower doses? Notice any significant difference between them?

Right, I guess it's true that psychedelics of all types are nothing to trifle with. If I kept the dose on the lower end using specific chems though, I wonder if it's possible to have a great time in addition to the life lessons and consciousness growth, while at the same time minimizing the chances of a "hyperslap". Something like 5-MeO-DMT has been so helpful for me, but every trip has been dead serious without any playful quality. I know it's possible, because most of my pharmahuasca trips have included ecstatic happiness and joy as a feature. Now I'm curious if any RCs exist where this outcome is more guaranteed.

I appreciate the interesting recipes, and I'm sure they're fun as hell and feel great, but I'm aiming more towards the semi-harmless tryptamine RCs only. In my experience, they're the least likely to drain away my own supply of neurotransmitters and leave me feeling hungover and shitty.

The PH strip is to determine comfort in vaping by targeting a PH at a neutral level relevant to the human body. It's only related to safety in so far as it's probably not great to inhale something that's too acidic or too basic. The idea behind the potential safety of the method has more to do with the lower temperature the e-liquid devices use. The example given in the first link mentions the fumarate decomposition temperature of 300C as opposed to the vape device operating temperature of 200C. In theory, the old worry of fumaric acid decomposing into a toxic chemical when vaped wouldn't apply here. You make a good point though that it's difficult for people like you and I to actually know whether or not it's safe. It's not like we have a lab setup performing the necessary testing. In the absence of better data, it's up the individual to decide the level of risk they want to take based on the available information. Though I'd somewhat counter that the original fear of vaping salts in e-liquid might have been formed based on similar amounts of hearsay and lack of data.

I don't have direct experience with 4-AcO-DMT, but I see no reason it couldn't be mixed with e-juice and vaped. I believe I've seen posts on the /r/researchchemical subreddit where people were doing just that. As you can imagine, it'd likely hit much quicker with more intensity. It's also possible the general experience would be different from eating it since I don't believe vaping would convert it to 4-HO-DMT. As far as vaping fumarate and other salts in e-juice, I made a post about this a little while ago. The common opinion maintains that it shouldn't be done, but experimentation has been occurring over at DMT-Nexus that begs to differ. I've been following the threads since they began, and I can attest to psychedelic salt vaping being perfectly fine and even superior. Again though, this is only in the context of e-juice. I've heard vaping salts straight up is quite unpleasant. Edit: Since making this post, I've learned 4-subbed tryptamines react especially poorly in solution. The color quickly changes to a dark brown/black. It's not clear if it affects potency, but it certainly doesn't seem like a positive indicator.

Agreed, it could be the very thing that helps someone cross that seemingly insurmountable gap of authentic awakening. Admittedly, I'm making my judgement of a retreat's effectiveness for myself without ever having attended one. It's something to keep an open mind about I guess. To my knowledge, I've never been in the physical presence of someone who's seriously skilled and awakened. I'd love to try that sometime, as it can supposedly produce profound effects on its own via the entrainment caused by their elevated energetic field.

I agree, it's super interesting. The only retreat I'm aware of that utilizes iboga is the retreat ran by Daniel Schmidt from the video, and I believe they're held in Canada. It also looks like there's none happening until later this year: https://awakentheworld.com/blog/samadhi-center-meditation-retreats/ I'm personally much more interested in taking the concept of utilizing iboga TA extract microdoses for meditation and applying it in the privacy of my own home. Some people do better in a ceremony or retreat environment, which I totally understand and respect, but I think I've always done better on my own. Though I could certainly see the benefit if you have an exceptionally skilled (ie actually awakened) person running it.