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That's fine. Start a thread with a contemplation on "classiness." This thread turned into an open tire fire of people's twisted opinions on gender and money because they focused on the *political* person you chose to exemplify a quality. Hence the wisdom of the guidelines.

Any discussion has a flow of ideas. The community has guidelines for a reason. Debating the significance or value of a celebrity is gossip.

Political figure and gossip.

I wrote down 50 beliefs I have. Many are about men. And women. And money. And value. And on the weekends, I use a random number generator to select 3 of them. And I sit and question and turn them around. And blow them up. Because they're bullshit. @Leo Gura This thread needs to be locked? Where are the mods?

Sometimes I wonder about their effect on building visualization skills - which in turn could be used for growth.

@Annetta Two things. 1. Pills for Vit D don't work very well, even crazy megadoses prescribed by a doctor. Take a sublingual liquid. This one works great (and before you freak out over spending $19, notice that is has 90 doses): https://www.amazon.com/RX-Vitamins-Liqui-D3-Fluid-Ounce/dp/B000XQJGRE/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1496004623&sr=8-1&keywords=rx+vitamins+d3 2. Take Vit B12 as part of a complex of other B vits. You want to take them all together for balance. I also use a sublingual liquid for this. Ok one more thing. Don't eat nutritional yeast if you have autoimmune disorders because, chances are, you are intolerant to many foods. If you are weak in the gut, yeast is probably not your friend.

@Socrates Yes, for the most part, non-fiction is just a distraction. Mental candy. Some works may have artistic value that grows you. Personally, cinema is more my art form of choice, though I watch movies very rarely now. There are some movies that help me sit with paradox or give a glimpse into human and existential nature that is very beautiful and touching. Same for lit. Those works are few and far between, however, and the amount of time you can waste looking for those gems is massive.

@Socrates It depends. Are you taking some time to appreciate beauty (art) or are you working on something (tool)? The Count of Monte Cristo is pretty long to learn that revenge isn't satisfying. In the end, that's just a moral rather than a truth anyway. You may end up needing to learn it yourself first-hand, making that book worthless for your growth, though interesting to read. If you were obsessed with revenge, you probably wouldn't even see that moral in the story. You'd be drooling over all that sweet, sweet revenge. Art grows us and expands our minds, certainly. Some people are averse to self-help material and will only grow in their lives through art (my best friends are this way). To me, the self-help material is more to the point and provides tools.

@sheenp24 Suga is a drug!!! ? Great explanation btw. That was very clear.

@faith Our forum friend @Siim Land may be of some assistance.

@Awomanaware Yes, I am liking how this thread is going! IMO the dandruff thing is really about diet. It's an overproduction of sebum from carbs/sugars that we can scrub off with shampoo. Again, just my non-medical opinion. If I ever get my diet cleaned up enough to resolve that issue, I will go no-shampoo again because the rest of my hair felt so much better. It seems like I fall off track not due to money or time, but apathy. When I am high on life and care about it all, this stuff is easy and DELIGHTFUL. When I can barely see a reason to slog through another day....different story, right? The quality of our consciousness is reflected in everything we do. It applies to this, too, most definitely! ?

@Awomanaware Perfect! I will grab that book. I went no-shampoo for a while, but it didn't go well for me (dandruff ?). Argan oil has worked like a charm on my hair. I made my own perfumes out of oils/witch hazel/distilled water and loved that. I used to clean with vinegar. It's sad. I used to be *all about it* with a natch lifestyle and then fell back into using normal garbage. Damn society.

Yay! I ordered the filtering bottle cap because I constantly drink out of a bottle that looks like the perfect fit and they provide clean water to others with my purchase. I'm so thrilled - thank you, Nahm! ❤

That's a good question. It's the default. I would have to actively seek water without it. Sometimes, I get toothpaste without it.

@Nahm That is very interesting. Thank you for sharing. I have been on the fence about removing fluoride. That is perhaps from my degree in public health - "anti-fluoride" people are considered backwards and anti-science in that field. ? If anyone is interested, here is info on Descartes and his views on the pineal gland as the seat of the soul: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pineal-gland/ @Awomanaware Those satin eyeshadows ????? Thank you!

Nice, I love Tom's of Maine lavender deodorant w/o aluminum. ? What was your experience with eliminating fluoride?

@Siim Land Perfect timing for me. And I love your bropothesis - rings very true!

@electroBeam Interesting. I never said anything about race. Why do you keep talking about it? Yes, repressing racism makes individual people go covert ops about their racism. Long-term effects about changing the public domain may be different, though, and for real...people don't have to hate Trump based on racism. The people who are allegedly tired of everything being about race keep bringing that up (projection). He will cause great damage to our institutions. Perhaps in the long run, that will be good. We can build new and better ones. But the people who voted for him thinking he would both break and fix the system in 8 years max were wrong. We have to buckle up now. /end political discussion on my part

@Revolutionary Think I believe Leo's point is not that you can't share your opinion and get paid for it. In America, pundits are a dime a dozen. We don't even care about facts anymore. So, opine away! It seems he is pointing out that individuals pushing their monetized agenda have given us the system you hate. It has unfolded this way based on that drive. Is everyone really stupid, with you at the upper end of the intelligence bell curve of the entire country, or is something more complex going on? My education did not teach me about money, they were very "social" degrees. It did show me that anytime I was angry and judgemental, running around feeling like the answer was so simple - others were just too stupid or evil to get it - I actually just didn't get how the system works. To @electroBeam's point about our current antichrist president, widescale adaptation comes from intense environmental pressure, not a messenger from the collective "higher self."

@electroBeam ?

That's going to get real gross real fast. ?

For real, only gym ever that tells people how to dress, what to drink out of, and what sounds you can make. Even resorts to name-calling. Hate that place. @Anirban657 There is some additional safety with the machines vs free weights, but free weights work more muscles because you have to balance and compose yourself without such structured support. You can get that balance and safety with your own bodyweight, as also recommended above, so keep bodyweight exercises involved. Starting Strength is a good weightlifting program. Shows results fast, makes you track what you're doing, and gives you confidence in knowing exactly what you need to do when you walk in that gym door. Highly recommend it.

Not much, really. It got hurt. That is to be expected in life. The ego wants so much, it gets hurt and disappointed regularly. Sit and feel your feelings without judging them. Send yourself compassion for that pain. Then think about your wife and really imagine her ego's pain - why she may be seeking attention - and send her compassion.

@Dharam She may be an insatiable black hole of insecurity that needs infinite attention. Or you are not giving her enough attention. I don't know the situation. Often, our male partners don't realize how much they ignore us. Or they give us attention in the ways THEY want, not what we want. Have you criticized her much lately? That will send her to seek attention elsewhere.

@key Meaning is like breathing for the mind's chatter. You breathe in, it fills you up, you breathe out, it is gone, you begin anew. As you age, much will gain and lose meaning. The idea that life is meaningless gave me great freedom and relief, and therefore meaning, and surely this meaning will be lost as well one day. In summary: It's ok. The point is to detach, let go.