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Humans exist, because we are a possibility to be explored, there is a potential within Us that no other life form on this planet has, so we explore it, its a game of sorts, "Can You realize what You are?" sort of game.. The body comes from the Earth, the food You eat, no food no body, so Body is Earth, and it goes back to the Earth at physical death, what You are is not this, You are what was there before You accumulated all that food...

Every group in society, this place could be classified as a cult, cult is not always bad, its just the bad stuff gets publicity because it causes Drama in ppl, which sells tickets and products on the news, ppl luv drama as it makes their hearts beat a bit faster... They are more a sect as Carl said, not a cult, they did their thing, if your not interested they leave You alone, so if Your interested go for it, if not leave it behind, don't over think it...

@Wintermute For Me, before I discovered Sadhguru, I was very into "Self Help" or "Self Improvement" if You could call it that, ppl like Tony Robbins, Zig Ziglar, Brian Tracy and many other, read many books on it, then I discovered Tolle's Book New Earth, and read it and it changed everything, its basically a book about Ego, and when You recognize Your Ego, You can't go back. When I watched Tolle on Youtube, he was good but a bit boring then a suggestion for a Sadhguru vid came up and I watched it and that was it, he just had so much clarity about what he was talking about, so I watched more and found more clarity in what he said, so that was a sort of transformation.. When I did the basic practice after a couple of weeks I did feel a change, then after doing the online IE course there was more change, then I did an in person with Sadhguru in 2012 and was initiated into Shambhavi Mahamudra, and after that practice within a couple of weeks I was feeling very happy, very accepting of things and such, so it was profound... I think what happens is we get used to it, and that is what he talks about, Humans never want to be in a box or situation very long, we get used to things very fast and always want to expand and "Be more than what we are right Now". I don't watch many of his vids anymore since I deep investigated all of what he offers online already, once in awhile I review the inner engineering material and such, he provides lots for newbies and advanced practitioners, but the basics are this, set up an Experience of min Peacefulness within, then all will happen naturally, the accepting, the responding, the living NOW, this is not rocket science, we have a tendency to complicate things in life, its pretty simple if Your Blissful of Your own nature (this is not the goal of Spirituality, just the foundation), then You will naturally be inclined to Enlightenment!

The thing is we learn super fast, it shouldn't take thousands of years to figure this out, the problem is we are still cavemen when it comes to how Conscious we are... Once the Consciousness problem is dealt with, our society can/will be much better, problem is we may not make it to that point, time is crucial... I look at it this way, there is enough resources so know one has to starve, or go homeless or be on the street, and there is enough food produced for everyone in the world, there is enough land for everyone to have their space if need be, so why are we at war with one another always? Its a Consciousness problem plain and simple, that is the only thing that has not developed since day one of humanity, everything else has, but another problem is that in today's day and age we can destroy the entire planet, before we couldn't, so know we are too empowered without the proper levels of Consciousness in place. We could do some much better but we aren't and by the way it looks we won't be anytime soon!

Thanks for Your reply! I think it affects Me allot because I have to deal with the crazies all the time in my daily life, so its hard to just let it go at times.. When home I don't let it bug me, and I think living in a big city like Toronto makes it worse since its so crowded and crazy here lol..And I agree, I think of this all the time, we in all reality have it pretty good, compared to how it was like in the past and in other places in the world, I will focus more on that in the future:)

The NOW is all that exists Yes, but the NOW is built upon the past Actions, this is basic Karmic Theory. The Past does not Exist NOW, but it did exist and lays the foundation for all things to happen, the future does not exist and will never exist, only in the mind/imagination realm does it exist, when the future comes it comes into the NOW, but only the Human can plan for the future via their Imagination, which is a gift of sorts., The key is to not let what does not exist affect Your NOW, most ppl suffer from this, they get depressed or bitter/angry/upset about the past or anxious/fearful of the future, both of which don't exist, this is the basic insanity of the world.. but there is cure!

keep drinking the kool aid, see where You are in another year or two, or take charge make changes and see what happens.. These ideologies of nothing is happening, no one is here, everything is imaginary, a very tiny part of it is truth, your simple judgements, ideas about ppl and things maybe untrue, but ppl exist, other ppl exist, reality, the earth, the galaxy, universe, it exists, deny it and then suffering happens because Your denying basic existence. Ppl deny others, then go on and talking about broken relationships and/or wishing "Others" well, its completely ridiculous and crazy...

that's sad for You, Your missing out! and You will continue to suffer and live a low potential in life is that is what You actually think/believe!

Free Will has to exist because its a Possibility, just because You and many other don't access it doesn't mean it doesn't exist or isn't possible, its just a matter of exploring it.. Free Will in the case means "How You want to Experience Life"

No, we have Free Will, most do not engage with it, Even those that are brought in hell holes have Free Will, read Victor Frankl, he's one example, but the society and power players do not want us to know this, which is why ppl living the so called "Dream" are suffering that too.. Its just a matter of knowing how to access it, which is why we have methods to do this, but its super hard today with all the conditioning and bad habits ppl have, but it is totally possible in most all situations, of course if your being tortured You will Suffering but most ppl are suffering via their own unawareness, not because someone is torturing them or putting a war on their doorstep!

Absolute needs a way to experience itself, it can't in the realm that it exists, so here we are, living this sort of life out of Trillions of other Potentials, so that in the End Absolute can know itself, for that too happen an Experience of Forgetfulness has to take place, we think we are separate from everything else, this is the game board being set up, its up to YOU to figure out the way out and go beyond this basic game and live life to the fullest, Absolute gave us that at the minimum..

This "God" has nothing to do with whether Your Life is mediocre or suffering, that is up to You, that is why YOU are here, if You lay blame on another entity or person, place or thing, then You lacking Response Ability, or Free Will, and You will always be mediocre and suffer.. We (Human Beings) as a fundamental are here to live to our highest possibility and potential, for that too happen You have to engage Your Born right and capability of Free Will, the Will to determine how You want to Experience Life, if You don't do this as a fundamental (like learning how to read, write, do basic math and survival processes) then its tragic, because Your miss out on the basic reason why You are here, and its worse if You lay blame on another thing outside of Yourself.. At the very least live Peacefully within, after that see what happens in regards to Spiritual Enlightenment..

Definetely not a leisure trip, try it and see for yourself... Anyhow, you know what they say about arguing with fools eh:) Peace out!

Most of the ppl of the world have this issue, and a mental health issue, just look around and see how ppl are acting and behaving, the ppl of the world are heavily brainwashed, heavily unAware, UnConscious, which is why we have what we have today in this world.. Ppl make up stories in their head either because the mind is on autopilot, combined with egoic identification and such, it makes up stories, or its a drama play too feel alive, either way its a form of insanity, we all have it, I have it, most all do, its just a matter of how Aware are You of it, the more Awareness You have the less it will affect You and where You want to go in Life...

To facilitate what, an exploration of American Indian culture, You think this is a leisure trip?? I may be a 30K bike, would You rather he take a cheaper one, get in an accident and die or be seriously injured? What would You do if You plan was to do a trip like this and expose to many American Indian culture, how would You do it safely... Your looking from afar, making assumptions and projecting, no credibility at all,,, I only respond as others may read this and get distracted from a True path that works!

From my involvement with Isha, most all the money goes back into the foundation to pay its expenses, Sadhguru from I know has used vehicles, he makes his own cloths, the travel he does is not leisure time, its work.. I for one think he should take time off every year to recoup but he doesn't he's go go go full on all the time, I've never seen anyone like this in the world, totally selfless to really his own needs and personal wants... To criticize it is nuts, we should emulate it, be a small part of it, he wants undercover Yogi's for the most part, yes he needs ppl at the ashrams because of the volume of ppl visiting, but he wants Us outside in the world being the transformation so ppl can see it is real and they can have it too, that is worthy cause in my books... He's been accused of most everything nasty under the sun, stealing kidneys, stealing ppl, stealing land, etc,,,this happen when You try to do big thing, enemies, the elite show up and try to stop You, they don't want change the want us to be their puppets, and to not be Self Realized and Aware, as once we are we bring back our own power and screw it too them!

Include everything in Your Narcissism.,.. In the end everything we do is a form of Selfishness. The Mother doing everything they can so that her children don't suffer, this is because her inner feeling of seeing her children suffer causes HER to Suffer as well, if her children are laughing and having fun, she feels Happy, so it is this way for everything we do, all those claiming to be doing things for others, do it because internally it makes them feel good as well.. The only way this process does not happen is if You are completely able to control how You Experience Life within Yourself, if You choose "I want to be Happy all the time" then You can be, and if You are Happy within Yourself, this will reflect in Your Actions and Response towards others.. So don't focus on fixing a psychological issue like Narcissistic tendencies and such, just make Your Inner Experience Pleasant (Peacefulness or Blissfulness) then everything else will be fixed!

Sadhguru is just a Vehicle, I am never talking about the personality or such things, when I talk or share about him, its just his methods and how he puts things, his methods work and he puts things in simple perspectives, easy to understand.. Like when he explains Meaning, there is no meaning other than what You make out of it, which is mostly bullshit, so if there is no meaning, then what? Why not just experience Life completely and totally, then if that were in place, would You search for meaning? Probably not, so that makes sense to me, searching for meaning is useless, you get to the end goal then what, search for another meaning or goal and then it becomes cyclical and your looking for things outside of you to fulfil You, why not get to a spot of Experiencing Completeness within then establish Your BEING, and then go do action...so that makes more sense to me, I don't care about Sadhguru as a personality or anything of that sort. As I've said Leo has shared some value for sure, its just for me its too intellectual, and the idea of relying on psychedelics is not for me, it has its time and place but not as a method or path...

Material industry is tied to Survival Accumulation, it all is.. One can take the intellect to the deepest levels, via that it gives Spiritual Insights I would say, but then it has to go further and disregard the Intellect, which is why we have Yogic systems, Daoist Systems, Buddhist System and so forth, it goes beyond the Intellect and into places that don't require it...Leo I would say has gone as deep as one can go via the Intellect, he's done some Yoga but has to integrate it all and get past his Karmic hiccups still...at least this is what I am observing, he for sure had great insights and sharing, they have helped ppl for sure, but its very limited... P.S. what is the point of "proving me wrong" ?? makes You feel better?? sounds egoic too me..

Survival based level only, everything is that in todays society and culture, intellect is just that survival based living, I'm am talking Mystical/Spiritual levels of Realization, intellect has nothing to do with that... Our Potential lies in the Mystical and Spiritual, if one has not Experienced those Potentials, then we are no different than the cavemen, just accumulating different things, which is a sad state of affairs after 200,000yrs...

Leo is a Knana Yogi, he's dissecting the Existence via his mind and intellect, going so deep he has insight from that, that is clear, but he hasn't dealt with his ego and now obviously narcissistic tendencies, and he coitizes others from doing things differently than him and disregards them which is short sighted.. Ppl here luv or idolize him because they are intellectual too, but not on his level, but they relate to it, problem is existence has nothing to do with Intellect lol, that is the trick...poor idolizers!!! I can't listen to his lectures, their too long, eventually it all sounds like Bla Bla Bla... make it short and sweet... Not saying he is not on a level of Awareness that is high level, he is, but he hasn't dealt with certain karmas that are in place that stifle him big time..

Most aspect of Creation are predetermined, it has to be to allow Creation and Existence as it is here on this planet to happen, this is Karma, Karma is cyclical creation based on past Actions, but for a Human Being, which as far as we know is the most Capable Life Form (has the most Potential in all areas of Life), we can rise above Karma cycles and its influence and have Free Will or Response Ability, which means we can live a Undetermined Life, so Karma means my life is my Responsibility, I choose how to Experience Life and from that perform actions, of course actions are limited, but my Experience of Life is not and does not have to be Determined...

Self, the individualisation aspect of a Human Being, its in the Brain, and the Karmic makeup of the individual, Karma is what make You what You are and its unique, Karma also allows existence to happen, Physicality to Happen, its cause and effect, and the foundation to the existence of things, and its much more.. Think of it like the Software in a computer, it allows to the computer to function and have use to Us, then there is the hardware, motherboard, hard drive etc, that is our Body, Mind is Software, Karma is Software, memory on 8 different levels, layers upon layers of previous experience residue impression reflecting in your NOW experience influencing everything about You.. We cannot grab it, its invisible like air, but present in everything we do, unless we go beyond it via Awareness and the intelligence and clarity that Awareness brings Us!

Since Life is happening, and we live in a dualistic world and realm, Death has to happen, everything Physical is cyclical, we are just pop ups, here today, gone tomorrow or in a second when compared to the cosmic time scale, we don't matter at all, but we do in a way, we allow Potential to be Expressed Experientially, if no experience is possible then what potential is arisen??? So Death is just a consequence of Life, be aware of it, but don't dwell on it too much, you will miss the Living Possibility of this Moment by doing that...