Ishanga

Its exactly this..,and Your the one that brought Einstein into the conversation.. We can all go back and forth and post this video and that video contradicting the other person's video, quote this or that person, and I find it interesting that even in the objective world of facts that science is supposed to be about there are varying opinions on the same subject, if that only doesn't tell You that free will exists as a possibility for Human Beings then I don't know what will.. This is just a perfect example of extreme belief blinding ppl, please all that read this look Above!!

@Breakingthewall For sure it beats "I am just imagining You and everything else, I took a drug and now I am GOD, bow down to my wisdom, bow down to my presence" that goes on around here lol...

Sadhguru calls this solace seeking, but its not a solution, like a band aid, it comes off soon after it is put on as wear and tear will make that so.. I think these types serve a purpose though, some are just not ready for the real work, the sadhana needed, so they go to where they fit in.. but I want to know what methods do they share other than talking and writing? Its like Eckhart Tolle, he was my first introduction to Spirituality, and he makes tons of sense imo regarding living now and ego issues and acceptance, but what method does he share other than intellectual ones? At least with Sadhguru he states that all the talking is circus, something he has to do to gain interest, but the real work in in the Sadhana, the Kriya's, the Asana work, and even the temples he built helps tremendously on levels we don't realize.. I can see the differences btwn the two sorts of ways, there are saints talking and writing, then there are Guru's doing it, living it, proving it works.. I guess I am a method sort of guy, got this from the martial arts I trained in I guess..

The most effective I've ever seen or heard of, it did wonders for me when I first started doing it, 12 min long!

@Breakingthewall I think we get to a point of overthinking and over intellectualizing it for sure.. These Guru's and Saints and such, they all have their way of expressing it, this is there to appeal to all the personality types, karmic types and surface uniqueness that exist thru Human Nature or Egoic nature, its only a starting point imo.. We can go on and on forever with this stuff (just see all the threads, posts, replies here, just think of all the other forums, other avenues of discussion, analyzing, rehashing, arguments thru history) and where does it all lead.. This place Actualized.org is perfect example, its full of ego and identification, dick measuring, your wrong/I'm right, no one really listens to what anyone else is saying/writing, this just go on and on with their ideologies and discussions, then You see them posting in the mental health section talking about being addicted to this or that drug or ssri or whatever, so its a joke in a way.. We can share all we want, but in the end its forgotten tomorrow, but what is our present state of Awareness, can I go outside and just see a tree without labelling it and feel connected?? Most cannot do this, I have trouble sometimes doing this but I can do it at times... But if You like it and it empowers You continue on, I appreciate Your sharing and how You see it and explain things lately allot:)

Wolfgang Smith, Mathematician and Physicistm he spent years with the Yogis in India, called them Giants, but was more of a gnostic Christian I would say, Here is what he says about Free Will.. "Wolfgang Smith explored the concept of free will within his broader metaphysical framework, particularly through the lens of "vertical causality," which posits that higher levels of being—such as the intellect and the soul—can influence lower levels, including the physical world. He argued that free will is an expression of this vertical causality, where the human soul, as a higher ontological reality, exercises causal power over physical processes, thereby enabling genuine freedom of choice. This view stands in contrast to the mechanistic worldview of modern science, which reduces all causation to physical interactions and thus undermines the possibility of free will. Smith maintained that the corporeal world, which includes human experience and consciousness, is not merely a projection of the physical universe but a real and ontologically distinct domain that allows for such higher-level causation. He emphasized that the collapse of the wave function in quantum mechanics, which requires an observer, hints at a metaphysical order where consciousness and will play a fundamental role, aligning with his notion of vertical causality. In his work, Smith asserted that the traditional tripartite cosmology—comprising the corporeal, the physical, and the spiritual—provides the necessary framework to understand free will as a real and meaningful phenomenon, not an illusion produced by deterministic processes." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Smith

Levels bro, there are levels to it all, baby steps, first dis identify with Body and Mind, then go from there, when ppl that are unprepared (psychedelic users mostly) have these grand experiences whatever that is, they come back freaking out, and then don't know what the hell life is and how to integrate the grand experiences.. You've just this moment become a Billionaire, now what do You do? You go a bit crazy, spend spend spend, lose friends/family, gain fake ones, go thru this craziness and either come out of it wiser or worse than before You won it.. Or you grow slowly, make a $100K a year, then a million a few years later and so on, slow and steady then you can handle it much better.. We have to deal with what is what, we have this body and mind, it rules us mostly, getting over just that is huge, after that thank god we have Guru's and Teachers that have been there before us to guide and help... No need to reinvent the wheel, time tested methods and systems are already out there, nobody is experiencing anything new, its just new to them but not on the grand scale..

Both exist, predetermination and free will, we humans have to figure it out which one to use, that is one of our roles here, no other life form on this planet has as much choices as we do, most animals are mostly predetermined living forms, we are too in lots of ways, but we have access to levels of Consciousness that animals do not, that makes all the differences, and one of the qualities of High Consciousness is choosing how to be and choosing your destiny.. At the sametime there is always a randomness to things, that is the chaos and beauty of creation, its set up in a way that potential is mostly unlimited, limited physically but living things are way more than just physical objects..

Yes he is good for ppl that have problems sleeping, You watch him and he puts You too sleep, like other intellectuals, watch them speak and write big posts and books and it puts you too sleep, where the powers that be want you to be asleep at the wheel of life.. At least Vervaeke is a meditator, he just analyses too much and tries to share what Reality is via logic which it is not!!

No confusion, Body is just food or borrowed material from earth with an ingrained intelligence that has a strong survival and procreation instinct.. Mind in basic terms is just an accumulation of 5 sense data input, mushed up together via an intellect, identity and memory making machine, so that again we can survive another day.. What was there before all this gathering happened, something had to be there for all of this too be built upon?? Find out what that is, then You know You are not the Body or Mind, you have them here as tools to use in this sort of dual, karmic, materialistic realm to play this game of Life which is full of Possibilities and Choices...You can live like a Pig, or be a virtual God, the choice is ours to make.. Don't spend a whole life trying to figure it out intellectually down to the first atom being born, that is a waste of time, just enjoy the ride and live the possibility that it provides..

God is not Love, God is just Possibility.. You (this Human Being vessel/embodiment) have to decide Yourself what is Love and what is not Love, what is Beautiful and is not Beautiful, its purely a Relative/Subjective thing... On one level You do what You have to do to survive, if stomach is empty then one problem exists, once survival is settled You can move on to other aspects of life, when stomach is full 100 problems exist... So Life situations are on many levels, the person living in Gaza doesn't not have the same ambitions/desires as a person living in downtown Manhattan in a high-rise condo, their intentions and desires are different.. What is the same is that they both Desire to be More than what they are right Now.. So find Your true Interests, fix Survival, become Clear about reality, and what life is and your Role in it, then go for it!

For sure Guns are the superior weapon, compared to knives/swords and such, but cars and vehicles can be destructive as well and are much easier to access, and guess what ppl luv to gather together outside (all times of the year) and do stuff.. Just the other day I was downtown Toronto, by the Eaton's center, I don't think it was that busy since it was cold outside but there were a few hundred ppl outside around the mall entrance and accross the street at Dundas Square (Toronto's Times Square), so if someone where to plow us all down with a truck a couple dozen ppl for sure would die, more hurt, so how hard is it too get a truck or car?? Also, this idea that less ppl getting killed is better, well if one person gets killed that is bad in situations like this, we are just desensitized by it now since it happens so often, one person getting shot or killed by some terrorist won't make the front page of the news anymore but it is significant, so let not make #'s comparison and say less is better than more, talk to the families and friends of the one that died and then see what is what..

Its a better identification if You know experientially that You are not the Body or Mind, if that is true for You then the identity shifts to higher up ones, where sooner or later You are Absolute in Embodied form internally. We can still live and play the game of life here, but we don't suffer thru it and not realize what our truest Potential is.. Its very very hard not to have some sort of Identity while being Embodied, the key is to create it Consciously under Your own Will and Awareness.

Exactly! All Emotions and Experiences come and the expression of them via labels, words are from the "Human" system and vehicle. The Universe is not Love, or any emotion or anything other than the Universe, You could say it is a living consciousness in a way as is the Earth, but not like we are.. Believing that the Universe is Love and Beautiful and all these qualities Humans want, is akin to believing in the God of the Bible, and that he cares about You and Loves You while living in a hell hole in Gaza or some other place Suffering Your whole life, it makes no sense and is delusional really! Living in this sort of understanding and reality is disempowering. You and all of Us are micro Universes, small Gods of sorts, in the way that we can create the Life we want, within Ourselves and somewhat outside of ourselves, our destiny is in our Hands no where else.. Absolute or God realm is Potential and Possibility only, since that is the case we are here as a certain Possibility being Expressed in this Relative/Subjective realm and has the qualities of Duality, Karma, Materialism but we can access our Free Will if we want to explore it, if we don't then most likely Suffering is Your Experience, and Suffering disempowers Human life to explore the Potentials available and Absolute itself..

This whole forum is a dick measuring contest daily, I can understand that in the other sub forums, but not this one...

No, they will just use another tool, gun access is not the problem, its a Consciousness problem, low consciousness no feeling of connection and its just about the individual and their beliefs, higher consciousness more connection, no belief involved, no danger to anyone!!

We should have one news channel, non profit/no commercials, the ppl reading the news do so because they want truth to be given to the public, that is not the case today..everything on the news is drama related, ratings related, advertising dollars related, the ppl running the news channels promote this and the ppl working for the bosses are likeminded... The samethings are happening in Canada, mass shootings, murders, stabbings everyday, stupidity everywhere, and ppl use it for their own fame and fortune..Sign of the times..

My last response to You; from user Zenterus just today! : "Im sorry for taking your comments seriously. You're clearly mentally challenged in some way. Wish you all the best!" and I believe Leo has called You lazy and a pervert... Why would anyone give You credibility to anything You say, I certainly don't, no one else should! Bye Bye:)

The aftermath that is also super sad are the supposed pundits, that come forth to explain to Us children why this stuff happens, but they don't really care, they just want hits and more popularity, same with the regular media...on and on it goes, nothing changes, and this event will be forgotten in a week... Sad state of affairs really, the event itself and the resulting actions afterwards!

@Breakingthewall Don't waste Your time going back and forth explaining or justifying.. I've realized this place is like any other forum, mostly completely full of ideology junkies, they cannot read and understand what anyone shares because they are blinded by what they believe in, no matter what proof or logical argument you put infront of them, they luv the drama of the argument, the conflict and back and forth which is why they are on here all day everyday.. We here are supposed to be above this stuff, but that is not the reality mostly here.. What You wrote makes perfect sense as far as logic goes, leave it at that, don't give them the energy they suck out of You/Us...

True, they are way under paid.. As a Martial Artist, I definitely would not want to make a living as a fighter, its a dead end street for the most part lol.. But the point of the video is that he is anti what Society tells us what it takes to be Happy and Successful, which is a message that is needed to be heard more often by ppl that are there and living it!

Wise Man, listen Up!

As a Spiritual practice in everyday life, I've learned to observe my Ego and its constant judgements, just the way it judges ppl walking by, what it makes me pay more or less attention to and things of this nature, and how it places ppl and things on a hierarchical scale in a sense, it pays more attention to ppl I'm attracted to then ones I am not attracted to for whatever reason, or things as well, nice cars, houses, cloths and stupid stuff like,,Via this practice I can detach from my Ego and have space btwn it and what is observing it which is Me.. Interesting, just watched this yesterday, Chase Hughes talking about Confidence and Hierarchy and what the differences are btwn the two!! This guy is interesting!!

Post‑Training Movements Transforms the Body - Taoist Qi Gong w/ Adam Chan Epi # 56

I luv sharing People that are really in the KNOW.. This is Adam Chan, he is a top top level Martial Artist in Vancouver, I'm talking Bruce Lee level of Skill, as well he healed himself via the Taoist Methodology and Science, Taoism like other Eastern Traditions is a Complete System of Well Being and Spirituality! I totally recommend anyone interested in Taoism to contact Adam and get involved, You won't regret it! Here He is talking about a basic overview of Standing, Moving and Sitting ways of practice via the Taoist Methods for Healing, he explains it very well and its easily understandable, Great Stuff!!