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here he is with more detailed explanation, he is doing the mantra and chant in the background of the first video...

He calls it circus, things he has to do to make things work for his plan, he's said this many times... He's no Entertainer lol, I don't think all the work he has done or is doing it too entertain, like building temples, social works projects and trips all over the world to do the work, he's been doing this for over 30yrs risking his life to do it on many occasions, I don't see anyone else in the world doing the work that he is doing like he does it, with this 20hr days 7 days a week schedule.. I don't listen to his talks anymore much, but the methods and techniques he shares are super effective, I felt a huge change just after 2 weeks of the basic practice he shares...

Yes there are major differences, Sadhguru is much more active socially, this is two fold, first he wants the ppl to see and touch him so that it seems more real, plus he has to raise funds to make the events available to the public and to support the ashrams and programs they have running, so as Sadhguru says often he has to play circus, Leo is much more private and isolated, with a limited audience and message... Both have their purpose, both will go on no matter what anyone says or thinks, that is the way it should be! Sadhguru's hightest value from what I gather is too liberate as many ppl as possible, he already fulfilled his guru's goal of creating the Dylanalinga, so now it is too transform the world to a better place...

@Natasha Tori Maru Leo does this steady telling ppl what he thinks they should do, why should I not do the same, its just unsolicited advice that is all..Plus Sugarcoat raised the question herself if she should leave here or not, I just added my two cents, its not arrogance, just sharing, but to each their own... Plus I am not giving here life changing advice, just that spending too much time or online is not so healthy which is a proven point!

What's funny is that Leo is sounding more and more like Sadhguru on a regular basis, his sharings in my perception seem to reveal that.. I would classify Leo as a Jnana Yogi, he has a desire to know all the mechanics of Existence and Reality, that is fine we all have to choose which path to pursue... Also why does my admiration of Sadhguru bother You?

I agree, its a balance btwn Absolute and Relative, and this is the whole reason why we are here I think, to work this out, Experience things, go thru all there is too go thru Experientially and then somehow return back to the Absolute Perspective, that is the game, but if Your too one sided (I think most in the world are too Relative) then it causes un balance and that results in not knowing or experiencing all that is there... Un Realized Potential is a huge Tragedy imo!

I wouldn't say Happiness/Fulfilment is a value, more of an Experience, and when Your intouch with Truth You naturally feel Happy and Fulfilled!

I post here because like others I have no one else to discuss this sort of topic with..I post less and participate less because the answers are not here for sure, but its entertaining to see the drama here when we are supposed to be searching for truth and not drama.. I care because in my perception Sugarcoat has a real attraction or desire to know truth, as do many of Us here, and in my experience after lots of trial and error i know finding the answers via logic or intellect won't work, its only entertainment (or socializing as she said).. I want to help those that are on a true path towards truth so I responded, plain and simple..

He's on here for hours a day everyday, as are others, its not healthy being online for hours a day that is proven, at the least this place is not so dangerous compared to other parts of the internet, at least he is super curious about Consciousness and other things Spiritual, but in the end he won't find any answers here, just more questions upon questions until he is old and on his death bed, getting him nowhere, don't have to be a genius to see that!

No, You have an Experience, we all do, individual Experiences, this is on the basic level, Human level, then there is the BEING level lets say, that is where You were are when You have Your lsd experience, the Being Level where everything is ONE, all I am saying is that on that level there is no "I", on the basic Human Level there is an "I", if there wasn't we wouldn't have existed long as a species. One way of saying, other than to say "I am the only Being in existence" is that I am You, You are Me, everything is connected and Inclusive to each other, its just that there are trillions of different forms of life, all coming from the same source, on that level we are ONE! btw I am not into non dualism ideas and fantasy that no one exists and nothing is happening lol!!!

It sounds to Me from what You wrote that Your Under Stress, which is a form of Suffering right? Enough so that your taking meds which are not good for You in the end! So my advice as I said before, is to get Yourself into a place of Balance, Harmony or Peace, there's lots of intellectual and physical practices that can help with this.. In Your OP you say the word "Regret" allot, this is living in the future and past, future is imagination since it does not exist yet, past is memory and it doesn't exist as well, only NOW actually exists, but we are all mind identified to a heavy degree, Mind is all about Past and Future, Mind cannot realize NOW, so we have to have space from it, then reality is Perceived, then One is at Peace, so Living NOW absolutely is essential, use the past to become wise from, not wounded, and imagine a future but don't live there emotionally.. Work on basic things like this, as well learn how to Breath correctly, Sit Correctly, Eat Correctly, this will all help with stopping the Stress Response, bringing harmony and Peace into Your Natural Experience, then make the decision...That's all I was sayin!

@Nito There are no large issues or decisions to make in life, things like who to get married too, what career to have, where to go to school and such, these are not large decisions. The large decisions are all about the Quality of Your Life Experience, how do You want it too be, Joyful or Miserable, take care of that, then everything else will fall into place as it should be. First make Yourself Peaceful and Healthy inside and out, then make a decision and stick to it. Never make a decision when in destress or Suffering experience, then you will shift and change Your decisions and zig zag in life! We want to go straight not zig zag, so take of the basics, first BE, then go out and DO then HAVE, don't DO Then HAVE to BE that's backwards! Good video here on this topic..

take it, your obsessed with this place obviously, it will hinder Your Spirituality!

@Meeksauce You've had an Awakening, that is Great! You realized everything is One, Complete, this is Great, this is what the Absolute Is! Problem is You still have an Ego, Body and Mind to deal with, these things provide Experience, so You came back and Realized everything is One, but then communicated that "I only Exist" solipsism stuff, which is not so Great! There is no "I" in Oneness, but there is an "I" in You and Everyone else, that is the whole point of this Existence here on Earth and Us being Humans. We can go from being totally "I", Egoic based, me/myself/I experience, which is basic Survival level instinct and Awareness, to what You Experienced which is Oneness, but is there is no "I".. If You are the only one in existence then whom are You sharing with, it would make no sense and doesn't. Just don't think about it so much or try to argue a philosophy (Solipsism), just share the experience of Oneness, this should make life for You a whole lot better, time will tell!

Real Intelligence is not based on any sort of memory. Most of what we call intelligence is not really that, or its is a low level of intelligence.. Why we Humans dominate this planet is because of our intellects, we are masters of using our memory of events, and our imagination of the future, combined with the gift of creativity and a strong built in desire to live another day and expand in all ways, we dominate all life forms today, but this is low level use of intelligence because its still on the Survival level of Life.. Yes, via music, movies, art and such we showcase another level that is beyond Survival, that is for sure, but true Intelligence is pure creativity and organization! Just think of the smallest thing, an Atom, do You think we know all there is too know about an Atom, or a proton or neutron? We may think we do, but in a few years something else will be discovered about it, it is the same with everything and anything in the Universe including Yourself, we think we know everything about, then something else is discovered, but where did all of this come from, how did it all come into existence from Nothing?? That is true Intelligence, what was there before the supposed Big Bang, or Bangs, how did all of this, what we can see via telescopes and microscopes, come into material existence from Nothing? What has allowed Evolution to happen, what is allowing Gravity to happen, what is allowing a tree/leaves to change color at a certain time of the year when it doesn't know about time? There are a billion things like this and more.. There are millions of chemical processes going on in your body right now, what is controlling it, what is monitoring it, how did this level of sophistication come about, not only in You but in Billions of others.. That is True Intelligence, Absolute is True Intelligence, way beyond what our minds or science will ever be able to explain or find out..

Ultimately we can be in a state of Deep Sleep but still being able to function, completely relaxed but totally alert and aware, I would imagine that is happening from the Energy level, where Your Energies (Prana, Kundalini) is intense and very active in most all the chakras, there's lots of levels to this... I used the word Soul to represent what we are, they call it Atman in Hinduism or Yoga, Atman is the same as Brahman basically (there are other words used in Sanskrit as well), I relate it to a drop of the Ocean analogy, we are the drops, Absolute/Brahman is the Ocean itself, we are just tinier versions of it and Embodied with a Body and Mind complex... Karma is like the Software You have in Your Body, the Body and Brain are the Hardware.. Karma is just the residual consequence of all the Actions You have taken, action is in 4 areas, Body/Mind/Emotion/Energy, there are different types of Karma as well, there is the present day karma which we are creating each second or hour/day, there is the past karma created within this lifetime and the karma from the previous lifetimes.. Karma can also be defined as cause and affect, but its not a reward or punishment system, its just the software You have at the moment.. We can rise above the Karmic affect by Living Now Totally, Accepting Now Totally, Responding to Now Totally (vs. being reactive which is unconscious actions)..

First bringing to light the problem, second for myself doing the opposite of what I see, I'm polite, courteous, respect laws and basic traffic rules, open doors for ppl, etc etc... If I want to see the light, I must be it first!

Yes we live a much higher standard of living than ever before, the tech we have created has allowed that for sure, but as Human Beings we always strive for more, this is Desire, the desire to Expand, be more than what You are right now, so that will always be the case.. Suffering does not come from surroundings, situations, the homeless drug addict suffers as does the Richest most Successful ppl (see Bieber and others), so what is is that is Suffering? Your Unconsciousness causes Suffering, we've seen the studies and reports, ppl with nothing can be happy, content, settled, balanced... I have a job, pays well, good benefits, vacation time, I go on yearly trip to a warm place and relax, but my daily life at work sucks in my Experience, some luv it, I don't.. It probably a combination of a bunch of things, not doing what I want to be doing, not creating, not free physically, etc... It doesn't matter what my ancestors went thru or how they lived, when its a bad day its a bad day lol...That is how we are, but we can control it better to that one is at Peace no matter what basically, that is what I work on, its a daily practice.. But for sure, the systems we have no don't work for the masses, we have the resources to feed, house and provide basics for everyone, but its not profitable to do that, that is the problem, greed and unconsciousness!

The organization itself, TVP may be a failure in bringing about more awareness of what it proposes and getting it to become a Reality! But the idea of a Resource Based Economy is a good one, getting rid of money and our present day economic systems, which are not working really, they work up to a point, our standard of living has risen but ppl are still slaves to the dollar and inflation is now killing Us. I think it peaked decades ago but its not working Now for sure... One big problem in todays world is that there are too many ideas and promoters floating around, in the end anyone looking for a solution will find it confusing to navigate, which idea or concept to accept, which leader or organization to follow and get involved with??? It causes conflict and identification problems! The basics are we need to provide for All equally, no one should be homeless, down and out depressed and angry about life, using drugs or whatever to numb themselves when we have the tech and ability to provide for all in basic ways.. Money and exchanging it is outdated, only the power players want it to stay this way, and it will... For sure its going to take time to change the ideologies of this, the power dynamics and such, but do we have the time, I am not so sure about that!!

Clarity, You see Reality and Situations more clearly, not filtered as much by needs and wants, or the way You think it should be.. Greater Intuitiveness, due to higher Clarity, You will see outcomes and consequences better, read ppl better.. Calmer more Peaceful, less reactive, which gives You more access to the natural intelligence within Us..

Yes but we may not have that much time to fix it, you can tell a politician straight to his face that the world is coming to an end, and he/she will think of what it will take to get re-elected again, its that bad!!

They should but they aren't imo, they are just promoting ideological identification, which only enhances something that is not Reality, hence leading someone further away from Truth! Its this way on all forums, they lead to one having to defend their identities, not looking foolish or wrong in others eyes.. Don't make Spirituality a Study, its a personal journey, just find a method and mentor/guru and do it, its that simple, talking about it forever leads to the opposite of what it is all about!

@Bjorn K Holmstrom Thanks! Now its just a matter of How to do this, to build functional alternatives now, with all this polarity in politics and society! What I find frustrating about politics is when one side thinks they have all the answers and the other side does not, here in Canada we have Question period, a daily hashing of ideas and criticism, its super childish and fake imo, anyone that has any sort of reasonable intelligence can see the game being played, its embarrassing actually, we can and should be doing much better than this! The only answer I can come up with is too fulfil my desire for Spiritual Enlightenment or close too it, be the light I want to see in the world, and get off the grid somehow or win the lottery lol!!!

Agreed! Although I am Canadian, living in Toronto, its the samething here! What bothers me the most is two fold.. 1st we have more systems set up to make things better for ppl, we can actually feed and house everyone with basic comforts but we don't, due to greed! 2nd is the People, although I understand maybe why they are this way, survival needs come first for sure, but the selfishness I witness daily is painful to witness, its everywhere, as soon as I leave my place it starts up, selfish drivers, selfish behaviours rule, and it doesn't have to be this way, in this context its not about Survival but about 'What I want, in disregard of others needs!", this really gets Me, and its everywhere! We can do better, but we don't!