Ishanga

Yes, but the word "Meditation" is too general, does Meditation mean sitting upright with eyes closed? There's lots of way of Sadhana or Spiritual Work, and they don't all lead to the same outcome, some are simple basics like Mindfulness which is You becoming aware of the Mind and its chatter and thought patterns and such, this builds maybe a basic space btwn what is You and the Mind, then there is other energy related practices, and even more esoteric practices that allows You to heat up cold towels that were put on You while Your sitting in a cold cave somewhere.. For Blissfulness there are lots of practices, for peacefulness too, it all depends on what You want out of it!

The main problem with living Guru's (Humans) is that inevitably we will judge them via how we perceive them with our 5 senses, and form a conclusion of sorts, and then we either follow, worship, become obsessed with, or the opposite disengage, hate/dislike, put down and fight against or just ignore, just because of what we perceive from this person, how they look, how they talk, what they are talking about, what actions they perform, etc.. Its almost unavoidable.. Problem is we can be missing allot of help and guidance when this happens, its like a rock can be a Guru of sorts, but we devalue a rock because we think it is basically useless, but they aren't.. What can you learn from a rock, lots of things.. The lesson is too just use the Guru in this case, don't judge too much.. Use discretion of course but don't draw conclusions and go one way or the other, if the information and methods given are useful for You then use it, if not move on.. Bruce Lee said this regarding his Jeet Kune Do philosophy about Martial Arts Training "Accept what is Useful, Disregard what is Useless. Add what is Specifically Your Own!", in the case of Spirituality if Your a newbie then don't add what is Your own, since You don't know what Spirituality is, if You have experience then it applies well! In the end its up too You!

I don't care what You or anyone thinks of him, that is the point, but this is a Thread I started, You guys are the one attacking him, I'm just replying, hate him all You want, dislike him all You want, don't matter to me, its the thread integrity I'm concerned about.. Plus there is enough on this forum about him already, nay sayers, supporters, ppl can search thru and find what appeals to them...

name calling, like the other guy, high level ppl:)

the hatred and jealously or dislike of him is strange, if You don't like him ignore him.. I've taught Kung Fu for decades, I don't like Tae Kwon Do, its not really an effective martial art for self defense or fighting, so I don't watch tkd videos, or go on tkd forums, or interact with them either, I ignore them cause I don' think its a good martial art!

doesn't matter if he said it or not, the fact is ppl would leave the room if he sat there and said nothing, same with anyone sitting on a stage infront of a crowd!!

so does Sadhguru lol,

where did I say You have to leave the room?

?? I went to 3 different events with him there leading the event lol

Yes on 3 different occassion, for days at a time.. Listen its really simple, how is one to make change or transformation if they cannot do it by themselves without help? Answer that one for me as well as why Leo should continue doing what he is doing according to Your logic? My advice is to not believe anything he says, but to try out the methods he shares if Your interested, if not then ignore him!

Yes completely:)

While being "busy" with life stuff, work, home, study, etc, Self Actualize by doing this... 1) Live Now Absolutely, be present in the moment, don't let memory or imagination rule You...this can be done always.. 2) Accept all this is as it Is- Acceptance doesn't mean liking/disliking what is, just Accept it, this will stop all Stress from arising.. 3) Respond to Life situations, don't react.. Responding is a Conscious Action, being Conscious is Self Actualizing, reacting is Unconscious action, opposite of Self Actualization. 4) Breath deeply and slowly at all times, this will relax Your system tremendously, via relaxation then Your calmness will take over, Peacefulness will become more naturally for You, this will give you more clarity of what is what, and via that You make better/wiser decisions! All of the above can be done all the time, and leads to Self Actualization via Your internal Experience is now naturally Peaceful and at Ease!

obviously You think you are qualified to judge from afar lol, If I had the means I would have one too:) Whatever it is, he doesn't have the time to enjoy it, see below

he's never home didn't You know?

oh so, how would You know, Your trailing him 24/7 lol... Your either jealous or a hater, that comes with the territory when Your trying to make big changes in the world, jealous ppl arise as do haters, that is expected:)

for some reason bud you have something against me, that is on you not me,,,! by the way everything is a cult, this place, politics, society as a whole

No it doesn't, if that was the case Leo would have to stop too, so would everyone else that is trying to make change in the world.. Its not about belief, he has stated thousands of times not too believe anything he says, rather it is a sharing, its up to You the individual to find interest in what he is sharing or not, no one is forcing anything on anyone.,...

simply put we turn into ghosts, spirits of sorts, with no discretion like we have now while embodied available to Us, in the afterlife realm we just run on our karmic tendencies, if Your a saint in embodied life you will have more ability to choose in the afterlife, if Your completely Unconscious/Unaware of Reality, Truth, what You are, then no choice is available to You there and You'll probably be in a somewhat suffering state...the choice of what body to reincarnate into will be made for you based on your karmic tendencies/makeup, but it doesn't have to be this way, You can do something about it while alive and embodied..

Sadhguru as You know is anti belief.. The proof is in the pudding, just look at his activity and what he says, if You vibe with it then try out what he is sharing (methods, kriyas, asanas, temples, buddhi shuddhi, etc) and see for Yourself if change/transformation happens, if so then continue on with his guidance and transmissions, if not then leave, its that simple, its not a matter of belief at all... Today if one wants to make change or share in the world they have to do it via words first, this sparks the interest because we are so Intellectually Identified, if he just sat in the room and said nothing, most everyone would leave, but what he is sharing is way beyond words and catch phrases or even the books, its all helpful but the real stuff imo is the methods he shares!

The core of Reality, what You really are never changes, its only the ripples that change, the things You are not that are changing, Your Body, Your Mind, Your Ideologies, thoughts, dreams, intentions, etc these things change because that is the way they are supposed to be, if our bodies never changed, then we would never grow up, go thru adolescence and acquire the experiences necessary to have a quality life.. But what You really are never changes!

I agree with this, its not like she is saying something totally unique, if You do enough research the insights can come from other sources as well, I guarantee she is not sharing unique insights and if she turns You off then don't pay any attention.. Plus sharing insights only goes so far, its the methods they share, tools You can practically use (non contemplative, non intellectual) stuff is the most useful, just learning how to breath correctly will do way more wonders for You than intellectual insights in the end imo!! When I watched her vids I found her to be looking for attention and ego driven...

Mindfulness is about being Mindful of the Mind and Thinking/Thought process, essentially You are creating a space btwn what is YOu and the Thought/Thinking patterns, so its not about eliminating thoughts per say, but even if You did that, that is fine too, because in the stillness/silence comes creativity, something original and new.. If Your too identified with thoughts/thinking then your stuck in old recycled data, nothing new will come out of that!

Yes anything can happen, he does say that with new tech and science discovery, things can change.. He does seem confident but he does seem to know the small details, history and modern day situations of many of his claims about China for example, but it is a big stretch to say they won't exist in 10yrs, we will have to see.. I use him and the other chinese guy Jiang as just way of learning about things I can't research myself deeply, no time for that, but they did it for me and then reveal what they find in their opinion.. Time will tell...

So Zehan here is saying this: - China is going to collapse within 10 yrs for many reasons, mainly not enough Young People to take over from old workers, with this 100's of Millions will die of starvation and poverty, and we lose the biggest manufacturing hub of the World and a large consumer base! - AI is not going to change really anything, the energy it is going to take to power these things will not happen without massive infrastructure development and ppl suffering the power lose, water loss and other resources, there will be too much protest in the end for AI to go AGI and beyond.. - Energy will stay the same, coal based, nuclear on a mass large scale will not happen Yet, we don't have the infrastructure to make it happen, nor all the resources.. - Most everything shared in the media, the AI hype and Green Hype is all just Drama for them to get advertisers to pay for ads and them to make more money.. - Those in North America will be best off, if we can cooperate together not isolate from one another, the rest of the world is basically fucked in different ways of severity, China is worse off, Europe not so well off but better than China... He preface it by saying if the new tech is invented and they find something that is helpful soon, things can change... Sounds like Young people are going to have a hard time, whatever You believe will happen, Zehan or what others say, I don't see mostly anyone sharing anything positive about the future of this World, unless of course we raise Human Consciousness so that we don't see each other as "Other" but as a part of ourselves, I don't for see that happening anytime soon unfortunately!!