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@Davino what do u have doubts about?

can you explain? im very curious. i know that miracle /supernatural / esp stuff is possible on psychedelics, since ive experienced it myself. i think a direct correlation between psychedelic experiences and the physical world is necessary in order to constitute absolute validity, since we really do not know the capacities of the human brain to its full extend

im fairly certain u are misinterpreting martin ball. people often use energetic reality in reference to the non physical. martin ball definetely isnt materialist

@Leo Gura have u ever experienced anything supernatural on psychedelics? ESP like

this is indeed a very good question. i will be dwelling on this for weeks to come.

yea well, either way i guess it wouldn't be too odd if people reported different states of consciousness, even after full enlightenment, since brain chemistry undeniably shapes perception of reality

+1. im team leo

sadhguru does not ever say that god is more dreaming. he says that liberation is disidentification from even god. he never invalidated the existence of god in any way, quite on the contrary he confirmed god many times

Why is it that the past always seems to be enshrouded in some oddly familiar cloud of loving familiarity? I noticed it doesnt even really matter whether the past was negative or positive, the nostalgia element is always there, and its always the same "feeling". I distinctly remember times in my life where everything SUCKED, but now that i look back at it, even that also has this weird familiar cloud of loving nostalgia engulfing it. my past is all engulfed in the shrouded love of nostalgia it is one of the deepest forms of love in my experience, and yet i have never experienced it directly, only as an attachement to a memory what is nostalgia? nostalgia feels like home. is nostalgia our seperation and distancing from god? its like we're always right behind it, or its always a bit a head of us, it always only appears in our memories and past, never in the Now. It certainly seems like nostalgia is closing in on me, as i progress spiritually. its getting closer to the Now. i want to experience nostalgia in the Now, and i have a deep sense that this is possible, and that experiencing nostalgia in the Now will be a unification with God this just came to me and i wanted to share

i think this is a typical tendency for people who follow buddhism dogmatically. they view all spiritual experiences and states of consciousness as nothing but distractions on their way to "liberation", and thus they don't get to investigate the nature of consciousness throroughly. I would for example assert that one who has abided in and investigated "oneness" or brahman properly, would have zero doubts in their minds that brahman and oneness is an ontological truth, since true miracles and supernatural events like telepathy, telekinesis etc are possible when you abide in brahman. frank and artem both reject oneness. brahman is viewed as a mere distraction in dogmatic buddhism, and thus people who follow that path do not get NEAR the full picture

its like the infinite singularity of emptiness thats always been inside of me is revealing itself in everything else. what the fuck i dont know what to think of this. deep sleep everywhere. everything is just an apperance of deep sleep. WTF. deep sleep is just everything minus apperance edit; this is fucking weird edit: ok i lost it now rip. weird while it lasted

@Leo Gura i bet u play an undead rogue

@SkyGuardian lets stop giving artem attention

@Rafael Thundercat lol

emptiness leaves absolutley no room for an external physical world, because it is infinite

thank the lord theunborntao came along and cleared up the misunderstanding

ur basic dispute comes down to this; does existence imagine non existence, or does non existence imagine existence? im good with both tbh. im still digesting the "actually we are meeting right now".

@What Am I couldnt agree more, i need to find myself an arch nemesis as well

@Leo Gura @Water by the River i dont understand why you two have developed an arch nemesis type relationship. ur views are very similar

laughed irl at this. ty sir

lets assume the materialistic paradigm for a second. assume that what existence is, is two eternal voids, in between which you happen to exist for what, 70-80 years, and then you go back to the eternal void. the statistical chances that you are conscious only right now, and then never again, are nearly infinitely small. Why didnt it happen a 100 years ago? why didnt it happen 1000 years ago? Why didnt it happen a million years ago? a billion years ago? this is an infinitely small slice of eternity, and this happens to be the only time in all of eternity, that there is a conscious experience? thats literally infinitely unlikely Before you existed, what was the case? Eternity. What will be the case after you're gone? Eternity. Whats the case right now? Eternity. and apperantly eternity is experiential in nature. THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE NATURE OF ETERNITY. eternity equals experience, this moment is the proof. when you die you go back to whatever got you here in the first place lol. have fun trolling around for everneverever

@Breakingthewall i agree with this. reality is infinite potential, and consciousnes is just part of that potential. but everything that can be has to be conceived by consciousness, to quote leo, so in that sense reality is consciousness

all organic matter or even all physicality are bound by one unifying property; change or decay. notice how your body is changing literally every second. you may lose a couple of hairs, your skin cells are getting replaced, stuff like that. NOTHING in physical reality is unchanging, change is a law of physical existence. Notice that your senses have decayed during your life time. Your sight might have gotten worse, maybe you use glasses by now. Your hearing may have gotten worse, likewise with your taste. but your consciousness IS EXCACTLY THE SAME as it has always been. it hasnt decayed one fucking bit. I honestly think this is an extremely strong indication that consciousness is transcendent of physicality

@Leo Gura yes, the only objections i have to this are semantics. but i think the fact that something exists which doesnt decay, is a very strong indication of its transcendence of the physical, since all physical is bound by decay and change

@Princess Arabia i dont resonate with the idea of "low" or "high" consciousness. i think what people mean by this is level of comprehension, understanding and involvement with existence. what i mean by consciousness is simply the fact that existence is. and that fact has never changed, i dont claim there is anyone who claim to be conscious, im saying existence is. it doesnt need an owner. im curious whats your definition of consciousness? because this is pretty much mine. @Sugarcoat pretty much answered ur question here as well