Eskilon

Myself, stop arguing with myself for myself sake😂

Only the most basic and futile definition. God could subdivide itself infinitely, and grant senscience to a part of itself. But at the rock bottom it is you, this subdivision of consciousness is a play that YOU are doing. I think people should really contemplate Infinity of gods video lol. And the implications of what an Indra's net mean.

@Sugarcoat it's such a mindfuck of a view. But it makes perfect sense, its all good. You cannot ever escape being, you are always inside yourself.

There's multiple ways of saying that the absolute is, if you are the only thing that exist, you are completly alone. Therefore solipsism. If the lower self doesn't exist, so does the higher self. Everything must exist. If it's all absolute, it's all you, this reply is you lol. Solipsism is inevitable. The ego doesn't like to hear it.

The highest form is absolute solipsism, only YOU exist, not the ego you. But see, this distinction is way more trickier than it seems, the higher and lower self is not really separated from consciousness point of view. So in a sense, you right now as you watch this reply is the only thing that exist. As I see the only thing that exist is the SELF, Brahman, whatever you want to call it. But your ego is also absolute, it's tricky explaining. I think this is what Leo tried explaining in the infinity of gods video. Solipsism is one of the trickiest riddles for sure. I think to try to get your head around is to really grasp what a strange-loop is, you right now is the only thing that exist, and at the same time it isn't.

The only reason you feel you have an "independent experience" is because your state of consciousness is not very high. Claims about solipisism are claims made when you are incredible conscious.

Well, yeah, the mistake is to dismiss it and call it bullshit when you actually dindn't do the work. One need to be honest and open to the idea that it might actually be the case, because it has been talked about by various sages and cultures. But, it might no be your reality yet, so honesty is the first step.

But why you need to believe it or not? Why not stay open-minded and investigate if it is the case or not? After all, some people that you know claim it is true, that should ring some bells in you, at least in my opinion.

Fantasies are very powerful, they might even be better than the actual thing. So I dont judge this person lol.

Oh my bad, I didnt pay attention that you used the word believe. But I don't think you need to believe anything to get rid of that fear, even if you are not awake. Just remind yourself that death might be the next second, and that every worry is kinda silly. One should keep death very close, because its the only thing that is certain.

For real, if you are awake and you start doing pickup, that's a real cheatcode right there lmaaao. That's what's refered as leela in hinduism, everything becomes a play.

Why people fight solipsism so much? Like let's even say you dindn't awaken to it but you understood the implications intellectually. Why do you want an other to exist? Why are people such an egoist? lol. If people are like this they shouldn't get into spirituality, your ego is too thick, you want to exist as something and not in complete union. It's like Leo said on his deleted video: If you are only treating others with love and goodness because you see them as others, and once you see them as illusory or as a dream you start behaving with hostility towards people, that just shows your whole love was fake and not deep enough lol.

You need to develop intuition to know when and if you want to commit to someone. When you find someone that you truly connect with, you will not think of playing around with someone else. Because true connection is such a rare thing on this planet; so keep searching, if you find her, you will know.

Of course, human beings are the most complex and sofisticated "thing" that we are aware of. You cannot predict it, you cannot model it, and that's by design. Because... its CONSCIOUS, it is a miracle.

Funny you say that, your name literally have OBE in it

Some do, some don't. For sure.

Let's contemplate this, feel free to share your thoughts and the like. Some questions that I feel are interesting below. - Will people get lazy(or be more lazy) and hedonistic if their basic material conditions were fulfilled? Or, will they actually pursue their hobbies, which by the way might not just be hobbies, but an actual passion that they didn't commit in life because of fear, lack of introspection, soul searching, and also self-honesty. - Do you think the average human is ambitious enough to go out of their way, and work their ass off if basic material conditions were taken care of? - Will this income slow technological innovation and progress? - Will a world basic income, alleviate survival pressure on people, so that they can pursue spiritual development and growth? - Lastly, if it were implemented, would it do more good than harm overall?

One scenario that I can see UBI working is if we get along well with AI so they could do all the low abstraction work while we self-actualize. But that will require a tremendous ammount of energy to support those robots and AIs.

Don't know why, but it reminds me of Rinnegan

Not all manipulations are evil in intent. And also, good luck navigating life without manipulating your situations. You have a limited form, you value life, you have values, you need to protect yourself.

Hmm, never thought about eliminating just the mundane and 'boring' aspect of activities. This could be good too, but I don't think it matches the power of an UBI, because even if you are unemployed or if you never worked in your life you would get money.

Yes, I can see that happening too; people are survival zombies. Work play into people's identity, if you remove that, it's like you are killing them; even though most of them are not in their right work(life purpose). I think too gradation is the safest and the more reasonable strategy.

I do share you view on this too. I don't think people wil just self-actualize if they were given time. People are too unserious to care. Yes, this a significant concern. All the low-end jobs will basically go extinct, how would the economy react? I don't know yet.

Polygamy would only be cool if the earth was filled with high consciousness people. Like a very advanced alien society. In this way you could engange with them and learn a ton with every interaction.

This is so true. I don't like to lie and I wouldn't. But we are in the dark ages of human development, you can't do good and be wise if you don't lie a little and omit some things. This things would not be necessary if people were more spiritual, honest, and more loving. But since they aren't, some immoral things are needed to play the current game.