Eskilon

Yes. I am not undermining anything lol. Just pointing out that you can inquiry into this forever and not come to any definitive conclusion. This does not make it pointless in anyway. You just need to be aware of your arbitrary distinctions and realize theres no true answer here.

For real

Stop describing my ayahuasca trips I literally laughed 4 hours non-stop the first time. But there was no reason in particular, it was just insanely funny. Actually everything is funny as hell, you just need the right perspective. Like, this forum? Typing here for you to read and responde there？ What the fuck is this lmaaao People waking, going to work, come back and sleep and repeat over and over, bro wtf just top I am dying over here

It's a circular and highly subjective question with no end in sight. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You probably attach meaning to some dumb shit today too, no better than those figures. The structure its the same, only the content change. Whatever your attachments are, thats your meaning.

True, but he is better than Bolsonaro. Here its like: choose your thief It's corrupt to the bone

What are scientists？

At least you guys have Yogis at every corner We usually have thieves

When Death comes Even if intellectual perfection exists, you will die, and then what? Every goal, ambition or ideal is bullshit precisely because Death exists. Death is king

I see. I was just testing you too see how fat your self is To me, an enlightened person wouldn't mind those scenarios, not that they personally want them. But, if they happen, he/she will not be in misery like everyone else.

Are you ok with your house burning down next week, or your parents dying tomorrow? Are you okay in being homeless? Or going blind because of some condition？

@Sugarcoat Didnt you say you have no-self basically permanent?

Never saind single, read again. Never said it didnt. I said HIS dynamic meditation. Read. Letting go is letting go. When you go to sleep you are not deconstructing anything. You are letting go. Stop intelectualizing letting go. Never said but implied. Just look at the tittle of the thread lmao.

I actually agree with @Carl-Richard to some extent. Different people in different eras might need different techniques for spiritual development. Different strokes for different folks. I can live with that. Osho did say that the average modern man simply can't meditate traditionally because of the various distractions and the speed of modern life. So he developed his dynamic meditation. What I dont agree is the insistance on deconstruction as in treating as an end and not as a means. And also implying that you are deconstructing no matter what, I find it too arrogant of a position. Deconstruction is NOT the end. And you do NOT necessarily need to do it nor is it a prerequisite in meditation for it to yield results.

What if every inanimate object you ever interacted with is someone else on Salvia?

Ey I need some privacy, tell him to stop watching wtf?

You better bet it is. Why do you meditate in the first place? You want to go meta on this game.

Wouldnt need to be one if you didnt tried to be one first The meta-button is available for all

Haha, you can keep playing this games forever -- doesnt mean you actually get it. Letting go of letting go of letting go. Wanna keep playin? The mind will use every justification to really let go and see.

If the desire for awakening must go, then deconstruction too must go. Everything must go. Deconstruction is but a temporary means, not the end. Every technique must be like this. Don't get lost in them. If you find the Buddha on the road, kill him.

Why do you think that? I find its one of the best books on the topic. Full of insights and 100+ diverse techniques of realization.

👉👈 You are a mutual then I see. Me too I never understood how can people have envy, or jealousy. It's alien to me. Regret I have mixed feelings, definetly had some, but with enough reflection and contemplation every experience is necessary for your growth and understanding. So I can recontextualize difficult or unwise experieces. I tend to say that if you look with enough Love everything was/is valid. Love is the great overwriter . Yeah, survival demands activity and understanding, which can definitely be an obstacle to spiritual work. But I would say society at large is not doing the kind of understanding we are doing here though(No arrogance or ego intended). This explain why you are so smart hihi . I wish to see the day and society where we are taught spirituality and consciousness work from the very beginning. What kind of being will that generate once everyone on the planet is doing this ? It's fascinating to think about sometimes Thank you! . I am doing my best, although not perfect, always trying to learn from every experience . You are very kind and intelligent, makes me think what you went through in life to be where you are. Granted must have been very challeging. But as far as I understand in this human experience, you are only as great as the ammount of suffering you went through, much love.

Natasha Buddha Maru . This is a proper attitude, that is not revered enough. I like to understand and learn. Especially because the first 23 years of my life I was like a zombie(25 now) -- like really just full mechanistic existence and full of addictions. After I discovered spirituality and consciousness work, its just mini-awakenings after the other, and I never thought I had this much intelligence inside of me. So when I am learning something that I am really curious about(almost everything lol) I get into this state that you are talking here, theres just the act you are no more and theres profound gratitude that I am able to explore topics lol if that makes sense. Sometimes I wake up too excited to explore that meditating right at that time it's difficult because it's hard to let go of that energy, at least for me. Yeah I dont mean like a desire for it, not even a subtle one should exist, it was just to try to communicate my point 😣. One should step in meditation and expect nothing in return, just be and see where it goes. The attitude should be, even if you try your whole life and "didn't get it" you are okay with it. At least you tried your best, and there's nothing that could've been done better on your part. This is true devotion. Can I ask you a question ? Do you have I thoughts during "normal" life? Like do you say to yourself " I am doing x, I should do x, I could have done x better" or do you just play with concepts without the I identity? I curious to know because I am an intuitive person and in my experience I dont ever encounter the word I in my head lol. Its just images, concepts, insights, and abstract stuff, I wonder if some people can relate here😅

Lol there's no such thing. The method here is valid, if there's a memory of yourself in meditation you could deconstruct that. It's especially useful in the beginning of sessions and if you are a very novice meditator. But once you go past that you dont need to deconstruct anything, you need to expand your awareness, but not as a self, as awareness itself, no words or concepts. And then its just a game of waiting for awakening(I am not awake btw, still waiting ). We are addicted to activity. It's really hard to let go of activities, especially if you have a lot of energy and a curious mind.