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It is 100% a question of understanding. And the subject is you or reality. I agree that is not trivial. Not knowing is a tool for you to use to toss away your fat ego and maybe bring about understanding. There is a possibility of knowing 100% what is reality, you will not stay in not knowing forever. Be careful, not knowing might be a trap too. Buddha himself laid out stages of Jnanas(Knowledge), that one travels in the spiritual path. Spirituality is about understanding and knowledge, don't kid yourself thinking its not.

You might have a belief that you do not know, but you might actually know. This too needs to be abandoned. I like to draw parallels with the moment of recognition that you are dreaming in a lucid dream. In that moment, there's no doubt whatsoever of the reality that you are in. That for me is knowledge, true knowledge, where others can doubt, but its irrelevant. You just know, you didn't study for that knowledge, but you KNOW, and its sudden. No matter what other dream characters say, its completely irrevelant for the thing you just realized -- the nature of reality. In my experience, that's what true knowledge is, everything else is just belief, or borrowed knowledge. Everything else can change, but not self-knowledge. True knowledge is self-knowledge, and that's what spirituality is.

The issue is deep. You also assume that you know what belief is, that too is a knowledge claim. Can't escape what knowing is, whatever that's the case, you might be wrong Also, question that you aren't directly in touch with the nature of anything, that might not be quite right. Just a thought.

That looks like a picture that came straight out of /b/ 💀💀

@ryoko No map, however elegant and complex is enough, the map is not the territory. That doesnt mean maps dont reveal truths about the world.

why not

Well, see this. Say I kidnap you and we go to my torture chambers. If I really tortured you, there will come a point where you will beg for me to stop, and you will cry and implore for me to return you to your life. Even if your life is average, and you are a cynic(not saying this is the case just an example lol), an egotist, and you have financial problems, you will beg for me to return you to your average life. In this begging, the burried love is revealed. Avoidance of pain is subconscious love. Love doesn't need to be hot(like in an orgarsm or psychedelic experience), love can be subtle, and it can even be hidden and unconscious. Most people does not experience hot love in daily life(like I imagine an awakened person experience) but I would say most experience unconscious love, which is basically fear and avoidance of pain lol.

Why not？Do you love your little self?

Not defending Razard per se. But theres no conflation between the 2 so to speak. But at the same time there is conflation. It depends on perspective. That's why speaking about awakening is so misleading, its never what we talk. You might come at me like "Dude, convey consistent stuff stop being a psychosis patient" well, yeah but truth is not clearcut. Again not defending him, just trying to understand.

I have learned so much on this forum, it is a gold mine indeed. There are very wise people here. So, I would say my main purpose here is learning from other people and getting to know others perpsectives on things.

False. At some point in your life these things were not clear to you. And even if they are clear to you right now, you might be fooling yourself that you truly understand these things.

If there's an object there's an observer. An object can't exist in a vacuum. And If there is an observer, there's context. Something along these lines

A better question might be, what is NOT context?

I see, and it`s all good. Agree with you here This topic is way too sensitive for it to have a meaningful conversation in public -- hence Leo deleted his video. This one is best to contemplate alone and preferably at high states of consciousness.

@Natasha Tori Maru Something being unfalsifiable shoudn't diminish your interest on the topic. Actually it should increase. I know this topics might be boring for someone who loves the intellect, because you can't argue, you can't do much with it. Truth by definition cant be made false. You can't alter it no mather the circumstances. It is unfalsifiable. While I haven't grasped Solipsism in my being, I think the guys who are defending here might have done it. Like its something akin to being lucid in a dream, theres no doubt about it, you just KNOW it is true 100%. Doubts are gone. And even if you havent personally awakened to Solipsism it makes perfect sense if you analyse your life. Nothing has ever happened if you weren't there to experience. This is 100% the case. Even stuff "behind the scenes" they are only there because you are here. You are on the scene. Just my 2 cents.

If Solipsism is true, there's no other alternatives.

The final step to total immersion would be total forgetfullness that you are in a videogame. But would you want that? The cost to perfect illusion is high

Yes, this makes sense. You can say its all karma, Alan Watts couldn`t stop drinking alchohol, Osho owned 20+ Rolls Royce etc etc. But theres another name to Karma too -- self-deception.

Why should you do anything at all?

Yes from the absolute perspective everything is neutral. But there is such a thing as evolution and progression. And there are things that help you evolve more and learn and things that doesnt; the things that doesn't help are called -- self-deception.

You can use that line of reasoning to justify anything and not change.

This is such a self-deception lol. It proves that no matter how awake, self-deception will most likely continue.

And that's precisely what I describred?? ""The beginning is the end, the end is the beginning" . It does happen if you were to analyse or look at the structure through logic or reason. There's no relative, no set, subset or superset. All you said are mental projections into reality. All that exist is this spontaneous moment. And it does not have a name. But if one were to name it it would be: Absolute with no other.

"The beginning is the end, the end is the beginning" This is a classic strange-loop. A strange loop is a contradiction, fundamentally. It tries to equate two vastly distinct aspects, that shouldn't be equated if you think logically. You're saying that ""God is the absolute and the absolute can divide itself into the relative, and then the relative can recognize itself as part of the absolute again". If GOD is absolute, it cannot relate, or be divided, it is the only thing that exists by definition. So you saying it can divide itself is a contradiction and incoherent. I am saying that, the Infinity of GODs is GOD trying to grasp the possibility of other absolutes. And of course, if you were to analyse this logically it doesn't make any sense and it is a contradiciton, yes you got that. But, as I said, GOD is not bound by such things, and thus is able to accomplish such feats.