Martin123

1. Is there a distinction between enlightenment with the ego present, and complete permanent ego-destruction? 2. Martin hammered a lot the idea of body-language. This got me thinking that it perhaps could be useful to integrate this into a meditation habit - vulnerable body language?

@eskwire This calling you speak of can easily be awakened as you progress. Your sole existence in this world at this time is a proof a desire for some sort of creative action. Be it family or business or book or a garden. Creativity is the most inherent human quality. There is a creative intent behind everyone's existence.

@eskwire trust me, monastery is the pussy way out. If you truly resonate with it then by all means go. But there is a reason why life is so diverse rich and beautiful. Why there is fun, joy, excitement. Sex, food, music, arts. Relationships, communities, culture. All these things are the expression of "your" infinite nature. After all you are limitless, then why limit the limitless into the monastery.

dis. FUck it and go for it. Also FUCK the FUCK IT mentality and do it the smart strategic way.

@Leo Gura What is your opinion of different people resonating with different methods? I have been finding myself not really benefiting from self-enquiry, but rather resting in the infinite presence that is always there, sort of relentless mindfulness. I might be just throwing excuses at myself though, I will see how I progress.

@ExtraAwesome From my experience mirror exercises open up different layers of your ego, and the whole experience can become one big integration session.

@aryberry yes that one

@aryberry Check out the movie arrivals! =D.

@Live Life Liam The hedonistic lifestyle doesn't make you unfulfilled, the problem is lack of fulfillment in the first place. In fact there is no reason not to be fulfilled by the miraculous phenomenon of being alive. The rest is just a preference.

Bo its not about that, you gotta burn down the whole pattern. Takes time, just be patient

@eskwire Transcend romance, create a lifestyle that fits your authenticity, unnecessary to restrain oneself with labels such as celibacy or monogamy etc. Do what you find fit at certain period of your life. You might later find out that your desire for permanent celibacy right now is coming out of place of fear, and can be easily transcended, and then you simply won't like the idea anymore. Or maybe not.

@Psychonaut The carrot and stick conditioning. Just gotta purge yourself out of that.

@Malelekakis I have a bipolar friend. straight out - Nope

@Arman What I would say intuitively is that there's still importance of the dream to be experienced, however "readiness" for aeakening is rising slowly but surely.

So at this point I can feel into the "awareness", into my higher self if you will, presence. It is very sweet, yet when I do so I feel torn between 2 worlds. 1. Higher self sweetness 2. Emotional purification and catharsis going on in my body. The reason for this is That I find the catharsis brutally important, fixing my neuroses has been my goal since the beginning. So I will just continue on with purifying, and wait till I clear up more mental space for awareness.

@Arman You are right, but I do find myself in theis stage yet where Im like "even if I were liberated I'd wanna heal these". Also there is a certain feeling of urgency with it, so for now I'll go with that.

@aryberry for me thought is just a sensation in my head that I express through letters, as if Im writing in my own head.

@Phil No worries I didn't get a preachy feeling out of your words, they were kind.

@Phil You misunderstand how I view my traumatic past. There is emotional trauma stored in my body that I am letting go of, every day, getting better at it, learning better techniques and releasing more energy. Thats it. There is no attachment to the past or the feeling that "I've been hurt in some way". I am going to give a little more thoughts to the language part and think it over, maybe sleep on it, however this is the thing I can say right now. It is not the word itself. It is the emotional energy behind it, the emotional colour of the word/thought is assigned unconsciously. You don't purify it by using a differet word, u purify by releasing the energy. Thanks though, most of what you said was spot on.

@abrakamowse In other words if you're a victim you are going to be giving victimhood solutions. Hence the difference between psychiatrists and hardcore mindfulness teachers. Guess who's the victim here

@abrakamowse Heard this argument. Well she's right though right. It works for people who are willing to put in the work and grow. Just like therapy. Drugs are a different story. Drugs can give you an ability to get up if you're way too deep in the shit. But only temporarily. Being on drugs long-term will very likely destroy many aspects your life.

I am still in my beginning stages of PD, it's been a little more over a year since I started my own personal journey, and it was in a huuge place of depression and anxiety I was getting up from. I can imagine meditation and PD being effortless and joyful. In fact I have been there where everything was in this beautiful flow of life. But there is initial work to get there.

@abrakamowse Pills have a huge relapse again. You gotta understand, in the "official" mental health field nobody really knows what they're doing. Everyone is just derping around with the attitude of "yo howboa dis". There is no proof of drugs working, it is just an assumption, a theory. As well as for meditation, therapy, and psychadelics. All these are approached as theories. Now the only ones who kinda know what they're doing are some conscious therapists, who of course go baybay private practice because after a while they simply don't see any benefits from being restricted by the government.

@Phil I do believe language is a strong factor, but it is not the cause it is the effect. I made a decision I want to live my life trauma-free. And that is what I am getting, nothing more, nothing less.

@Phil I would assume your path is very different from mine, I have lots of trauma stored in my subconscious and Im letting it out. Interesting though. I always assumed that on the path there is always emotional labour involved.