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Yeah I know the feeling of "everything is for me" you describe. I think it was @Hojo who once posted here sth like "reality is a simulation constructed around you". And in my experience, the simulation reads both - the surface (what you do and say) and the "hidden" layers (fears, hopes) that you are not (fully) conscious of. Marvelous how this works! "The point of the magic seems to only be about the recognition of it itself. The recognition that this is magic." Love it! Alan Watts sits in the corner, hears, this nods and smiles 😁 "Somehow, I can give myself goosebumps on command. This might actually be worth looking into because it suggests a strong link between the prefrontal cortex and the autonomic circuits. Maybe spiritual perception is enhanced when this link is strong. Or maybe that's just another story trying to understand the magic. Or maybe it's both" I only know one other person that can do that. Don't know what the physiological reason is, but I bet my ass that everyone can increase his/her sensibility to mystical, spiritual, magical, psychic experience significantly and sustainably. For me the best methods have been fasting, Vipassana, body awareness, Yoga, holotropic breath work, psychedelics (including weed) and simply being present, no self (listening without the thinking, looking with judging, consciously walking).

Do or did you have experiences that align with this model of mind as Universal Mind compared to individual mind? Focus is on noticing this in others, not within yourself during meditation, psychedelics, meditation, sensory deprivation, no-self. etc. For example When interacting with other people, you had the feeling that you're not talking to the individual (IM) but the (UM)? You had a strange feeling that the "entity" or "self" in front of you significantly changed during the course of your interaction? You had conversations with people, talked deeply about spiritual topics but later those people don't remember what they said? Randomly people appear in your life and give you "strange" questions or "strange" information that was for you out of context? For instance, stranger looking almost like a homeless guy sits next to you in subway and after 1 minute gives you a lecture about metaphysics, AI and quantum mechanics? You received information that had very much the flavor of being information that guide your future behavior? You had conversations where the individual said things that fit the description of UM below? E.g. "it's big job to align and take care of all those individuals" or that it "life might seem chaotic for you not but for me" You had conversations where you received information that very much like someone is teaching you something fundamental about yourself and life? You experience strange body sensations, "goosebumps", energetic flows, or similar during a conversation, when certain words are spoken? Some words seemed to have a coded meaning, not only literal one. For instance, the person in front of you tells you how she teaches lessons to her horse ("I check the horses state of mind, it' mood and get a feeling if it's ready to receive and process a new lesson"). And you can't shake that feeling that it's not (only) about the horse - it's a description how you are taught lessons in life Some words, sentences carried a deeper significance felt deep down inside you? You can't say what or how, but SOMETHING was just a bit DIFFERENT in this conversation I am ONLY interested in first hand, direct experience. No "he said, she said", no "teachers", no "gurus", no scripture. PLEASE IF YOU CAN'T FOCUS ON DIRECT EXPERIENCE DON'T POST HERE. _________________________________________________________________________________________ For simplification, here is a chatgpt summary of mind as described by John C Lilly. 1. Individual Mind (Personal / Biological Levels) The individual mind refers to levels of consciousness tied to a single organism, especially the human nervous system. Key characteristics: Biologically grounded Operates through the brain, body, and sensory systems. Ego-structured Includes identity, memory, language, emotions, and personal history. Conditioned and limited Shaped by culture, learning, trauma, and neurophysiology. Instrumental intelligence Focused on survival, problem-solving, prediction, and control within the physical world. Lilly often emphasized that the individual mind experiences itself as separate, localized, and bounded in space and time. 2. Universal Mind (Cosmic / Transpersonal Levels) The universal mind refers to a level of intelligence not confined to any single organism. Key characteristics: Non-local Not limited to a body, brain, or spatial location. Shared or collective Accessible in principle by all minds, though usually unconsciously. Underlying substrate of consciousness Individual minds are expressions, channels, or subsets of this larger field. Timeless and unbounded Not constrained by linear time or personal identity. Lilly described the universal mind as the source from which individual minds arise and into which they can temporarily merge, especially in altered states (e.g., meditation, sensory deprivation, psychedelics).

Nice story

Embrace the randomness

Of course, you're working with limited tools. Words only without any body language, eye contact etc

The thing with the song, I had sth like that maybe 50-100 times. Really SPECIFIC stuff. Once, I had long hair and thought "would be fun if I just shaved it" and then moments later Spotify played a song where a a guy said "just shaved my head". Two days ago, I was at the train station, waiting & thinking about the limitless of life and how @Breakingthewall always talks about it. Spotify plays a song and the guy sings"we don't put a limit on life" LOL Re the interaction: Yeah I had many of those, too. In recent months and years it becomes more. Significantly increased in everyday life after deep Vipassana states. Guess they always have been there, just was not aware. Like these pics where you potentially can see two motives. It's sometimes like Hunger games, where sponsors can drop stuff to help you. It's sometimes information, or a opportunity, or a friend. Or other times a challenge, or a joke...whatever can come up in life. Makes my life very much gamey in recent times 🤣 And I think becoming more conscious is then realizing that you're playing with yourself 🃏

The same. It threatens core believes we have been taught since... Decades? Centuries? It's not part of the current set of believes and assumptions that form identy, so ANYONE experiencing sth else is WRONG! Identity as "that's who I am, that's how the world works" and changing that identity feels like dying in a (mental) sense, so I rather attack a threat than "die". Even if I could greatly benefit from cooperating with such a source... but I need to be aware and conscious enough to realize, to feel that potential benefit.

That won't help. You need experiences to change attitude, not words. They will (likely) only trigger defense mechanisms (guilt, shame) and push a person deeper into victim mode. "What? It's my fault? Can't be! I am going to my fortress and man my walls to shoot anyone claiming that. This will show everyone how great I am"

@Oppositionless @Oppositionless thanks @Natasha Tori Maru Yes. What is - in your opinion - the reason that others react in a negative way? Instead of this kind of communication to the benefit of oneself and others? I have a hypothesis but curious about view first.

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Sorry to enter this room just like this...but have you seen my dog? Medium size, brown fur, listens to the name "Jamba wamba" 🐶? Haven't seen him? No? Ok I'll look somewhere else

That made me laugh, thanks for that

@Leo Gura Leo, I'm curios. With all the information given by me before (see below) - what is it, that made you reply with the exact opposite of what I asked for?

Hi, thanks for replying. I expanded the list above. I notice a tendency in of "explaining" (especially telling others what reality is) and "intellectualizing" in this forum and want to avoid that in this thread. You did not do this - but can you go you please go deeper into the situations and experiences itself? I am interested in descriptions and reports about the experience itself. First person perspective: Why cease all questions? How you know this? What was happening? Is it 24/7 or just sometimes? If sometimes, how you notice it? How did it feel? How do you personally relate to it? What kind of information flows? Does it feel like guidance? How do you interpret it? Do you trust it 100% or do you question the guidance? Or is it not guidance for you? How do you approach talking to IM and UM at same time? What conclusions do you draw from these experiences? No need to answer all questions, pick the one you like or other ones, but you get the direction. Exchange of subjective experiences, practical stuff, applicable in real everyday life.

Or stop watching and or listening to anyone, especially some online dudes on you tube that you never got to know in person. Or even better, stop listening to strangers in an online forum aha.

I would also say that a lot of people are not in touch with what is good for them. I know more than one man that very much chased casual sex but then had to use Viagra to actually execute. And re women, I remember girls saying "don't know why I slept with him it was actually not good but still did it". Possible that's there is the case where it's alright and good. But in basically all cases I know, people had very limited connection their emotions and desires and they had low body awareness to judge what's really good for them and what not. Just asking simple questions shows how's much people can be in their head. Says someone that was in this head a most of his life...

https://chatgpt.com/share/6960e824-6150-8002-a0a5-a54e3fc8990f You can use that to play around also with IFS instead of Vipassana. Helped my a lot to gain clarity

🤣🤣🤣 I like that. Like your recent content in general. In my perspective, sth feels different. You went through some recent experiences that changed the way you perceive and operate? Or I am I just projecting? And re content: there is sth about self-enforcing loops re this whole awaking love enlightenment consciousness stuff. Those are very hard to see from the the inside. Applies of course the same to me or you

Maybe there are people that want to get to know each other, find out more before MAYBE attraction reaches a point where you want to have sex with another person? Sex is culturally seen as the non plus ultra, and it's can be great experience but I also had sex with attractive women where I later thought "shouldn't have done it". I just went for it without really being in touch with myself. Because I was programmed that it's important to reach the point of intercourse as peak achievement. It's one thing to change HOW you do things, how you approach women. It's another to check "why is there inner conflict? Why is there resistance? Is it REALLY what I want to do?" How do I know that I want to do this?"

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That's literally impossible. Your own words are your own words. Others words are not your words. You can say " I share view of XYZ" and expressed in own words that's "..." I got that he was making that point. My Meta point is that one can be so dependent from others perspective and words that they avoid expressing themselves even if explicitly asked to do so.

"In the province of the mind, what one believes to be true either is true or becomes true, within certain limits. These limits are to be found experientially and experimentally.” Did a Shaktipat many years ago. Did not believe that a transmission like that is possible. But I was open to verify or falsify. Holy shit, never underestimate true gurus and their mastery over energy.

Metaprogramming. John C Lilly Also, skilled communicators can make your programs conscious to you. Coaches, therapist. People close to you like friends, family are likely to see that too. Finally, deep meditation with silent mind will reveal subconscious structures. For changes: presence, awareness is key. And ability to go through emotional charges coming up. Change incrementally, start small.

What he did after being reborn?

Clever, your CO regulation tactic. Nice. Should also try:) I agree with the mind and body duality, was the same for me (still not equally balanced). My POV: It sounds like you need a build a stable self structure again. You probably unintentionally deactivated core believes. Too many, too fast without consciously replacing them. Without core believes, no identity --> system got destabilized, system panics, nervous system goes crazy. Been there. It's simple logic, like math. How much do understand (body awareness) and how much do you speak (breathwork, stretching, strengthening etc) the language of your nervous system? How much are you conscious of how you are metaprogramming your believes, emotions, reactions, identity (= ego, self structure). I would focus on those two things first. Example core believes I target with for my identity: I am safe. Anytime, anywhere, no matter what. uncomfortable states are only temporary transition phases. Always. -everything I need is in my direct field of awareness. Always. I don't ask why, I ask "what's good about it? How can I use it to my advantage? Who can support me with this?" But start small. One believe (I can handle this) and one executive action (every day 5 minutes journaling, or 1 minute breath work) so start with. Pace with love, gentle, but confident. Step by step integrate. For now, it's tough for you. It's hard at the beginning, but once the nervous system calms down, meaning talking and listening to it, it becomes REALLY fun. Because you can step wise recreate this self structure the way you want it. It's amazing. Of course, it's not a switch but gradual process but the feeling of self efficacy... wow 😲 Your old identity is gone - hello new you! Re "others": yes. Agree. It's also one thing I focus on - more community, more others. It's necessary and it's healthy IMO.