HMD

@kenwayYes, I was thinking following that similar line yesterday. It was what osho was trying to teach. Once we get past this whole sex thing we can move forward to higher stuff as a society. Then we can move past even more radical stuff as well.

@Lauritz Bewer Whatever it is, it’s still way better than an arbitrary, inaccurate, and ignorant judgement.

@Thought ArtAgain, that’s just the secondary purpose of sex. Mainly, primarily, and first of all it’s for ensuring the sperm reaches the egg. The physiology of the sexual organs says this. You don’t need to ask any scientist to see this. And the whole animal kingdom is not homosexual. Just a small portion of a few species. So, from that standpoint homosexuality is a deviation. And we accept it by presenting various rationalisations and also because it doesn’t cause much harm. It shows our loving nature. But this is just a milder for of Love when compared to accepting more extreme things live pedophiles and rapists. If we are growing spiritually then we have to be willing to Love these things as well. Don’t we? Why do we draw the line at homosexuality? Because we are not Loving enough or spiritual enough? And if we have already grown past these things, then is spirituality actually good for society?

@Adrian colbyDo you see the contradiction in your statement brother? That’s what I am saying, why are we okay with universe experiencing itself in this way (homosexuality) and not in other ways (cannibalism). If you say that because it imposes on others or hurts them, then again why draw the line here? Homosexuals impose themselves on the beliefs of conservatives and Radical religious people. Now you may say it’s not a physical threat, to which I say that survival is not physical. Are you getting me? I am talking about something deeper, and not asking anyone to justify homosexuality to me. I am a bisexual and have been for the past 5 years. So, I have no race in the horse, so to speak, on either side. Infact, if I was biased it would be towards the liberal end, but I am not.

@An young being But the main Question here is if radical open mindedness actually good for society? The question that who marries whom is irrelevant here. And I never said it’s all the same thing. But the point is if society grows in the direction of Love and radical acceptance to the point that they accept people who marry their daughters, is that good for society? That level of radical open-mindedness? If not, then it shows us radical openmindedness is not an arbitrarily good value for society.

One of the most engrossing trip reports i’ve read. https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychonaut/s/HN5yRSnENh

Having no sense of time is terrifying from a typical person’s perspective. I once spent a month in that state and I had plenty of panic attacks because of it. Untill, I accepted it and created some rituals that would give me some sense of time. (Watching sunset and sunrise etc)

This is after India lost the cricket world cup final to Australia.

@Thought Art hahah did not see that comin

That’s a cool perspective. Not sure if it’s practical at all or not, though. But I get what you are saying: Sex doesn’t have to be about reproduction and if we look at the animal kingdom, sex serves other purposes as well. But again, primarily it serves the purpose of ensuring the sperm reaches the egg. Now, we can use it for other purposes and I get that.

@An young being yeah, and a radical one. I know this is going to sound ridiculous, but is advancing spiritually in this manner actually good for society?

@Adrian colby No, I understand why some people would be gay and how unconditional acceptance plays its role in advancing people spiritually. But at this rate would pedophilia or incest become normal? And cannibalism? Would that be an advancement?

@Nabd thanks

@Nabd My wisdom tooth has a cavity that is pretty deep. But it doesn't hurt at all, unless I poke around. And my dentist says that it is not recommended to perform root canal on wisdom teeth. Is that correct?

@Ima Freeman you’re still a kid.

@Razard86 It really is that simple. But again, maybe we are just boxers who have forgotten how it feels to be knocked out.

Well, the way I see it is like: consciousness is unpredictable and infinte, it will manifest in ways I can’t imagine (eventhough I will be imagining it). And it’s a daily adventure that I take myself on. I don't see the “other behaviour” as other.

Good analogy, but replace boxing with that new slap sport.

@CARDOZZO Spirituality is a deep connection with reality. How is that anti-life? How is it anti-business? In fact, spirituality can help you do life and business in a healthier and holistic way IF you have common sense. Yes, spirituality ruins the illusion of life, but that does not = anti-life. In fact, it increases the appreciation for life.

What is ultimately wrong with Hedonism and what is the kernal of truth in it? “Pleasure is the first good. It is the beginning of every choice and every aversion. It is the absence of pain in the body and of troubles in the soul” Hedonism is rampant in society, and we can unconsciously adopt that philosophy simply through social osmosis if we are not careful. And this is why I want to gather data on how can hedonism show up in your life? What negative effetcs can it have? How to counteract its effects, how to see the kernel of truth that it carries, etc. Please share your insights and any observations that you have. Thanks!

What painting homeboy?

So, you form a shadow of “unconsciousness”. But if you are adequately conscious you should be able to integrate that aswell.

Nah man, this is art.

You are forgetting that having the right theory is critical. Yes, doing the practice is the most essential thing for many people and some of them are not doing it. But for others gathering theory and fixing their pre-existing theory is most essential.

God does not reside in a holy book. Whether it’s the Bible or the Qur’an, the mystics have never found God by reading about God. There is no class, no lecture, no homily that will ever bring you closer to God. Because there is, in fact, absolutely nothing you could ever learn about God. For the mystics, the only way to know God is to experience God. And the only way to experience God is to unlearn everything the ego has been trying so vigorously to manufacture since our infancy. In order to stop wetting the bed and become productive members of society, that “deep, inner-peace circuitry of the right hemisphere” has been sidelined along the way. To bring it back online, say the mystics, the simplest and most effective method is to die before you die.