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So in a nutshell, you’re only for the ruler vs. ruled model if you are part of the ruling class…that’s the real problem. And any ruling class is going to be seen as tyrannical by some folks in society. Many republicans already view Biden as a tyrant whilst at the same time contradicting themselves that Biden is not really in charge and that someone else…the “deep state” is pulling the strings. “Biden is a tyrant!” ”Biden isn’t the one in charge.” Tell me what about life at the top is harder? Not paying your yacht bill on time? Not being able to decide between black caviar and white truffle? You said, “Let’s us not underestimate the privileges of the mediocre.” That sounds like victim blaming to me. Why is victim blaming in fashion for conservatives? Could it not be that they are projecting? What happened to personal responsibility and picking themselves up by their bootstraps? You hate the socialist rabble yet conservatives claim they back the blue and other first responders. They also support social security and Medicare. Is that not socialist? Trump called for 2k stimulus checks as opposed to only $600. Is that not socialist?

There’s many non-Jewish people in top media roles but for some reason some right wingers as well as Kanye love showing charts of media outlet logos with the person in charge of it as being Jewish in particular. Watch from 2:15 on, Kanye talking to paparazzi regarding Jews and the media where he pulls out his phone with an excel spreadsheet: To make matters worse, he’s got many people thinking he’s courageous or something and that he’s doing something good by having so many people wanting to silence him. They will quote George Orwell saying, “To find out who rules over you, find out who you cannot criticize.” These people are batshit crazy. There’s a difference between not being allowed to criticize a tyrant vs. a minority. I’m not saying minorities are infallible but it depends on -how- one criticizes them. Most of the time it’s done in bad faith and I know that somewhere deep down most people know this. What is up with treating persecuted groups of people as if they’re the same as Nazis nowadays?

How does one believe in the absence of God? Well, I suppose if you’re referring to positive atheism which claims that there is no God. Even to that I would still ask for evidence that there is no god. But by original definition, even an agnostic is atheistic because they lack the belief in a God. Every mystic is a true atheist by definition. Just ask OSHO or Tolle if they believe in an Abrahamic god.

And another thing. You consider liberals to be at the top, in charge, in power…and conservatives as beneath…the ruled. Let’s say you weren’t joking…so then what’s the problem? There’s your ruler vs. ruled hierarchical paradigm in the making. You’ve got your priestly liberal elites, and the conservative masses being herded. The rulers…and the ruled….

You know one thing I never hear from conservatives regarding hierarchy is, “If I end up in a position of power, that’s fine. And if I don’t end up in one, that’s still fine.”

All this talk of ruler vs. ruled is stimulating for the conservative mind, I get it. I have one question for you, however. In this hierarchical model of yours of ruler vs. ruled….are you prepared for the possibility of ending up as the ruled with a boot on your neck? Because most of the time when conservatives talk about this dynamic of ruler vs. ruled, what they really mean is “I” want to be the ruler. And all I’m saying is…don’t be surprised if you end up on the side you weren’t hoping for. After all, the ruler class is reserved for only a select few. Because when that happens, then I can say that the system is working perfectly as intended. Conservatives fawn over a strongman, until it’s someone they detest.

I mean history has shown us time and time again what happens when a group of people or person has authority over others. This is why we have a democracy. You can be a fat Jamaican dictator with full authority, but when it comes to the track..you know Usain Bolt is gonna smoke your ass. No one is trying to take your differences or individuality away, it’s the superiority/inferiority comparison dynamic which has to go. In fact I’d say that relativism promotes individuality because when you’re free to be creative, your true gift and what makes you, you can shine through. But comparing yourself with others on a scale of superiority/inferiority only holds your true self back. You are not an individual so long as you perceive yourself to either be the ruler or the ruled.

“Why not have something within society pointing to that constant such as a priestly class?” Let me ask you, how do you think any elite group of people became elite? Wasn’t it with the help of the plebes? How can you contrast an elite class without a group of plebes?

If atheism is the new religion then how come neither you or I have seen any atheists killing each other over who lacks the belief in a god the most?

Answer to your first sentence: I see how the absolutist religion of Christianity is doing. It’s so absolutist that its followers can’t even get on the same page. Not only is every religion exclusive causing division but they’re all also internally divided. You’ve got the Catholics, the Protestants, the Mormons, etc. One single book man and hundreds of denominations. Why is that? Why are they all heretics in each other’s eyes? They preach about how the devil is responsible for division while they claim exclusivity. Isn’t that called hypocrisy? And to answer your second sentence: have you ever heard the saying, “The only constant is change”? That is why we are keen on organizing society relativistically. It’s the only thing that’s ever been, people and groups just happen to resist it throughout history, but it continues whether they like it or not. The ego resists it because its job is to resist what is.

According to who though? This is how religions are fabricated. Christianity literally conveys this exact same message, just with different words. Subjective relativism=hell and Absolute Truth=heaven. Repent or forever burn in subjective relativism! The relativistic devil is among us to twist and pervert the absolute! You cannot have the absolute without the relative, they are ultimately one. The absolute lies beyond the duality of absolute and relative.

Check out the absurdity of absolutism. https://houston.innovationmap.com/the-big-idea-university-research-explainedflushing-out-absolutism-in-science-2658467232.html https://aeon.co/ideas/the-danger-of-absolute-thinking-is-absolutely-clear https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/black-and-white-thinking

Look at the problems of absolutism. I know many people such as Jordan Peterson and the like enjoy going around saying relativism this, relativism that. But absolutism is also a thing. How do you prove an absolute? You can’t have absolutes without a god or ultimate authority to be “the status quo”. Conservatives who profess that they are atheistic/agnostic are only bullshitting themselves. It’s like a liberal going around preaching that homosexuality is a sin whilst calling themselves a liberal. The key to the absolute is through relativity.

Oxymoron. For real though I think the only reconciliation between liberals and conservatives is both realizing that relativism is the only absolute.

I watch Facebook reels and can’t tell much of a difference between its reels and tiktok videos unless I’m missing something

I’m not sure I agree with much of the posts in this thread because frankly it looks like only the negatives of Tik-Tok are being focused on. Also, it makes more sense for conservatives to be for banning it since most fear-driven political actions tend to be conservative. When people say such and such social media app is degrading our generation, I can only think of religious people saying that.

I just love how many republicans say that they were the ones who abolished slavery whereas the democrat party was the the opposite. That’s like saying Germany=bad because at one point we had Nazi Germany. It’s about who stands for what, now.

Republicans are conflating the left standing up to Russia with being pro-war whilst justifying their cowardice with being anti-war. It’s the GOP that wants to slash Ukraine funding and peddles some of Russia’s propaganda. It looks like the left is anti-war as far as not being the aggressor, but is fine with defending. The right however is only anti-war when the left wants to defend the country, otherwise the right is the aggressor.

There is a reason why God is referred to as “Father”. People grow up physically, but most remain children and I’m not talking about child-like innocence where everything has a wonder to it, but flat out spiritual immaturity. Because man is so small and fragile on the surface, it has concocted the idea that there must be some sort of transcendent god. This is what half of America believes, even more so than Canada and Europe. I just don’t see how attributing divinity to something else other than yourself is empowering at all. It just seems like spiritual immaturity has been conflated with virtue. Believers accuse non-believers of lacking humility while they get on their high horse about how right and correct their irrational belief in a god is, it’s pure hypocrisy. And again, this mindset makes up half the U.S. population.

Ah ok. What is it they call the system by the way…ah yes it’s democracy. Something the GOP claims this nation is not.

When you said that it’s the best system there is, does that also apply to the electoral college? Many progressives want to abolish that. What’s your take on the EC?

Yes, very true. That is about the only pitfall I can think of. But aren’t those who attribute divinity to something else other than themselves already egotistical? The Christians think they’re right, the Muslims think they’re right, etc. In a way, they are already playing God. I think there’s a lower chance of being egotistical when told that you are divine since most people would find that hard to believe anyways.

So does Richard Rohr, a priest or pastor I believe. Although he admits that Christianity in its current state is misunderstood and its essence got lost due to it being filtered through dualistic Greek thinking. Of course, the fundamentalists will say he’s the devil.