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Somethin_else, there is only one good thing about Tate: preventing cuckholding. I think it’s easier to tone down masculinity than to build it up. The amount of damage that cuckholding does is far worse. It takes strong men to be able to lead and do something about misogyny. However a man who is open to allowing a train ran on his wife is not only the epitome of lack of integrity, but totally impotent when it comes to standing up for anything. They propagate degenerative behavior in women by affirming that it is ok for them to objectify themselves for money. This ends up hurting their self-esteem just as much of not more than those who are misogynistic. Those who write off cuckholding as a fetish is the same as writing off physical abuse as a fetish imo. These people take “open mindedness” to a level where their brains fall out.

I am shedding light on different blind spots concerning leftism and conservatives. The left is typically against fundamentalist religion (I am too), but a religion can take many different forms without necessarily having a god.

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This may bother some folks in here but I had to post this given what I’ve been coming across reading. Everyone knows how offensive, racist, and discriminatory the stereotype of the black male is and yet somehow that same logic fails to be applied to white males. It’s like a Christian approaching Islam like an atheist would, but failing to apply the same reasoning to their own religion. We all know not all straight white males are bigoted or racist, in fact many of them have contributed to fighting racial injustice. Guilt-tripping white kids for example isn’t going to make them want to fight for racial injustice, but instead destroy their self esteem. Sitting there assuming that all white males have it handed to them is disingenuous given the amount of white males who are homeless/also locked up in prison. It’s important to have a big picture view when going after a particular race or gender and as common sense as this is, it’s equally just as uncommon sense. Victimhood exists, no one is denying the oppression and inequality that persists today however, all of that comes with a huge -but-. There’s also a limit to it just like there’s a limit to the aggressors. These two tend to have a yin-yang relationship where one eventually becomes the other and the cycle continues. Think classic example of guy or girl getting their heart broke and then doing it to others. Being the victim is not a free pass to being the aggressor.

Tony Timpa a white guy, died the same way as George Floyd. Police was laughing at him being passed out while he wasn’t breathing, you can watch the camera footage on YT. No one batted an eye for him. There’s videos of black protestors requesting for white people walking by to literally kiss their boots such as this one: This same video actually disgusts many black people I’ve showed it to. You can easily see how these protestors don’t actually care about equality-they care about subjugating whites.

You could look at it two ways. The first is how you’re looking at it where you’re comparing one evil to a greater evil. The second way to look at it is as either right or wrong. When you look at it as right or wrong, then neither one of them is right and they’re both wrong. It just comes back to bite those in the ass fighting for injustice when they become the very thing they’re opposed against. I think that aggressors of any kind are generally misunderstood when they get accused of victim blaming because many times they’re blaming the victim because they are no longer being the victim. You lose your victim card the moment you sniff out or provoke situations in order to masquerade as “standing up for yourself”. There’s a difference between standing up for one self vs. doing it in bad faith. Saying the victim is always right is like saying the customer is always right-they’re not. Instead, victims are only -generally- right. Just like the left preaches nuance and says that women -generally- have a womb instead of saying that only women have wombs, the same nuanced thinking applies to victimization. That too is not as cut and dry as conservatives make women out to be either.

I was agreeing with everything up until the straight white male part. Sure they’re pretty privileged and all but using that as a way to justify bigotry or hate towards them isn’t right either, that is beginning to verge on racist territory For example, I’ve seen this extended to the point of trying to teach white kids how to hate themselves. When victims start ruling with an iron fist, they’re no longer victims and unfortunately this is the approach many have tried adopting.

All they do is talk about God. God this, God that. I would think that they would be the most ripe for the non dual understanding compared to atheists. The one man they worship knew he was God aka Jesus. There already is a role model that’s half man half divine. They don’t think that their belief in a transcendent God is asinine but yet they think it’s asinine to consider that they are God. How do you communicate to these people the nondual understanding without making them feel like they’re going against the Bible?

First off, I’ve got nothing against owning a business. I worked on one myself as a realtor at one point. What I have a problem with is when business owners think they’re the hustlers and don’t have to depend on anyone “unlike those 9-5 slaving plebes.” Reality has showed/taught me something else. Everyone is hustling to some extent, everyone is an employee to some extent. As a realtor I was taking calls on vacation with family, while bragging about how I make my own schedule-it was a sad reality. I used to be one of those running to every opportunity that meant making money with my eyes closed such as pyramid MLM schemes, etc. In truth, the more you make, the more you spend. You can still live commission check to commission check as a realtor. You can still just barely get by with a business when your margins are only just a bit higher than your expenses. When the pandemic hit, both businesses and employees took a hit. You read all these success/motivation books and it’s all just about how to cope at the end of the day. I just think it’s silly for entrepreneurs to think they’re a cut above an employee. I had all these friends looking down on those working 9-5 while they themselves had no health insurance. You’re posting an overly inflated version of your success on social media without ever posting the dark side of it all. These people are putting up a facade, they’re no different than someone working at Wal-Mart thinking they’re not expendable.

I hear many republicans throwing that back as a response to Trump’s election fraud claims. Republicans in 2020 claimed election fraud, democrats claimed election fraud in 2016. I wasn’t as deep into politics back then so can someone explain?

“I looked at a Republican state that voted democrat and noticed there were OnLy TwO bLuE dOtS. ThEn iT hIt mE!” He wants a state EC to elect senators much in the same way that the president is elected. Fundamentalism has atrophied his brain. He essentially wants the 17th repealed. Here is the manure coming out of this man’s mouth:

There’s a famous Winston Churchill quote that goes, “If you’re not a liberal in your 20s, you have no heart, if you’re not a conservative at 40, you have no brain.” So apparently I’m growing dumber with age according to that quote. But anyways, conventional wisdom holds that as one gets older, they become more conservative. However, this is the opposite for me. I welcome change, and trying to oppose change in the name of “stability” is all an illusion. The only stability IS change, just like the saying goes “The only constant is change.” I tell that to every person who talks bad about change and it makes them grimace because they know it’s true somewhere deep down. Why do people become more liberal with age as opposed to more conservative though? Conservatives will argue saying that they don’t oppose change, it’s just that not all change is good. And by that same token, I too can say that not all conservative values are good either. At one point arranged marriages were much more prevalent, women weren’t allowed to get an education, etc. Just because it’s old, doesn’t mean it’s good either.

Her gay nephew spoke up saying she needs to learn to coexist. I’ve got some very conservative family members who claim that their party values facts over feelings, so I showed them this video. Looks like there’s a lot of GOP infighting due to this same sex marriage bill. I truly don’t see how GOP will ever succeed politically with much of its antiquated ideologies given that we are going into 2023 here.

Oeaohoo, everything else aside…what brings you to this forum and actualized overall as a conservative? I’m not trying to be snarky with that question at all, I am actually curious. What about Actualized is attractive to you?

That’s sad in general, one can have some very good points that ultimately ends up with them getting cancelled by not saying it in a more palatable way. I mean even people in that debate were admitting that Mr. Girl was making some really good points and was doing well in the debate until that last part lol

Conservatives would say the same about Trump, that he talks as honestly as possible and isn’t “politically correct”. If Mr. Girl was to say the exact same thing but while running for office somewhere, don’t you think it’s still bad optics? For having a prominent voice/being influential, isn’t language like that the last thing he would need? I don’t think honesty is an excuse for such jokes as well as hate speech. There’s also something called diplomacy.

Lol that thumbnail killed me, even Destiny has his hand on his head. I’m gonna watch it, this should be interesting .

He could have also got his point across differently, it’s inexcusable in my opinion and I think Vaush did the right thing by ending the debate.

Why defend Mr. Girl’s CP jokes and hypotheticals? If you read the comments on that debate, most people were admitting Mr. Girl was making some valid points up until he said what he said. Imagine a politician making those same kinds of jokes and hypotheticals.

I was only paraphrasing what Vaush said about the debate. Despite what Mr. Girl’s intentions were, I don’t think CP is worth giving hypotheticals and joking about by the way nor do I think it’s right defending such bad humor and hypotheticals. Bad optics in my opinion.

With society progressing and becoming more liberal, I see nothing but the clock ticking for these religions especially since its fundamentalists don’t tolerate certain groups of people and are trying to infiltrate politics by breaking down the separation of church and state. Christianity for example is growing more and more incompatible with modern society that multiple studies are signaling its decline. All it takes is for the state to tax the churches and it’s over. Running for president these days while saying that homosexuality is a sin for example, is political suicide. Isn’t it all just a matter of time?

In the debate with Vaush, I remember Vaush stopped the debate immediately after Mr. Girl made a remark about panties and a little girl to the point that Vaush started calling him a pedophile.

Right, and I guess could be said about orange+ not being able to survive in a blue- world. Let’s say Jesus was actually real. His teachings got him killed because he was preaching unity and inclusiveness.

If religions especially the Abrahamic ones are to be accepted among others by modern secular society, they have to realize that they will no longer be the superior or correct one. Something’s gotta give.