Sincerity

Exactly! That too. 🤣 On a consciously led social media platform, the AI agent's full instructions could be made transparent, so that everyone knows what they're dealing with.

@Miguel1 Page 59. Face here, for example:

What a bunch of handsome/pretty guys and gals.

That will be 🔥 for sure!

@Carl-Richard You said that your wish for him to go to therapy is out of love and I said you don’t know that he needs it. I believe there’s a sort of discrepancy between wishing someone does the thing you think is best for them and a love motivation. It feels like it’s love, but I’d argue that a deeper love is when you don’t presume things about people and you let them do their thing in the way that they want. And respect their will, beliefs, choices, who they are. In short: to me, „my wish for someone to do the thing I think is best for them is out of love” is an oxymoron. At least to a degree. There’s levels of love, obviously. I was like that with my ex and other people in the past, but I learned different. I guess you could call the former a more egoic love in comparison. This conversation is pointless and wasn’t even the main topic. Again, my points regarding love/charitability were related to the original post and the constant judging and criticism of Leo I see on the forum overall.

Awesome vibes 🤙

Okay. You think he needs therapy, and I think that you don’t know that he does, and that insisting on what someone else should be doing is not a proper attitude. We’re all just thinking here. „Let’s not hold anything what’s said accountable because it’s just my thoughts.” Also, I’m sure this argument is not being used in a one-sided way. I THINK that’s not the best way to lead discussions. And I can repeat the „you can’t know that” over and over, because that’s what I think. Come on. This is not a good argument in the slighest. Take ownership of what you're saying. Apologies for the sarcasm.

The thing is that you don’t know whether he needs it. He’s already said no, but people love to think they know what’s best for someone else and insist on it. Love is also respecting one’s will and choices, even if you personally would do things differently. But I don’t believe love was the prime motivator for this thread from the start. I was mainly talking about charitability in the context of the original post, not therapy. But I can’t know, you be the judge of what your motivation/dynamic was. I called it child-parent, but it’s about perceived authority in general. You are no stranger to this dynamic. We as Mods experience it at times towards us.

Nope.

Don't be rude.

I don't know what you're on about. Again, I was being light-hearted. And I'm not moderating anything here. Or they won't. But more importantly, the space will be polluted with idiotic arguments for all time.

This wasn't an attack. I was saying it in a light-hearted way. Like genuinely, everything is wrong with that thing you wrote. No offense. But my favourite one was that one: This must be your first day on the internet. Idiots will fight each other to their death. They will never leave. Or this one: I'm SURE the idiot will learn. No doubts there.

There's not a SINGLE thing that is correct here. I'm genuinely laughing out loud. Amazing.

@Carl-Richard Btw, I'm sorry for being overly argumentative with you before. Like weeks before. In spite of any disagreements (which don't really matter in the end), I know you're a good guy. I should've been better.

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Okeydokey. That's good. I said my piece. I have no clue if my (basically) main point about love/charitability/compassion landed at least a bit but what can I do. Love might be rarer in people than I thought.

"Kiss the joy as it flies." "The grass is greener when you water it." "We can complain that rosebushes have thorns, or rejoice that thorns have roses."

Guess not.

@zurew Again, godspeed to you.

See this is exactly what I'm talking about in the post I just wrote above. Because I'm a Mod here ("""an authority""" 👻), you feel like it's okay to be unkind to me and lie. A perfect example. I gave you 2 warnings. Two. One was for calling another user a hoe. And that was in 2024, btw. So that's that.

I think that many people unknowingly go with Leo into an unhealthy child-parent dynamic. As a rebel child, it can be felt as okay to shit on your parent because the parent is seen as "invincible". The child doesn't take responsibility for its indecency and unjust behaviour towards the parent, because it sees the parent as always above them. This can be a basic dynamic when one feels that someone is an authority figure above them - not just a parent, but also eg. politicians, employers, teachers. So it's "okay" to be unjust towards authority figures, ridicule, bemean, troll them. And the "authority" will probably not stoop to the same level and do the same to the "child", because they have a different view of the world since there is probably some reason why they're seen as this authority in the first place. Will Leo ever make a thread here "here's all the unhinged shit Carl has said in his 16,000 posts"? And then pick 10 out of these 16K? Will Leo hyperfocus on another user's worldview and things they said and make it his mission to disprove that worldview? No. It's children who try to disprove the authority. My point is that if you saw Leo as an equal, as the fellow human that he IS, you wouldn't need to go on a mission to disprove him. You would just focus on yourself. You would forgive the mistakes. Perhaps shift to another teacher who resonates more. But it's the people who DO see him internally as an authority that just HAVE to bring him down a peg. Basically, people insecure in their worldview. In order to "heal", the child must let go of its childishness and acknowledge its lack of ownership for its indecent actions and attachment to the authority figure. Here are a few clarifications: Even when someone is an equal, one can still recognize that this equal is much better at a particular than them. So there can be listening and a humble attitude for that particular thing. While still recognizing that the teacher is "one of us", that we have to treat him with love and understanding. Disagreement is of course healthy and it's fair to bring everyone's unconsciousness to light, if one perceives it. As long as it's done in a loving manner, it's completely fine. But a position of "I just have to debunk everything this person stands for" is not fine. I was speaking in general here, not just about the original post.

I didn't.

@zurew 👍

What I see all around is great examples of everyone wanting to bring each other down and have their ego win the battle. Completely unconscious - criticism, judgement, fighting, trolling, ridiculing. I've been a part of that too unfortunately. Which is a disgrace and I regret it. I see injustice and just plain shitting on Leo here all the time. People not seeing that he's just another person. But then, love/charitability is painted as cult dynamics. It's sad people we're living among.