Fabio

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Hi, I met a girl outside a bar. We talked for a minute or two and then we made out. Exchanged numbers, and left separately soon after. I texted her the following week and she often took a long time to reply, or had unexpected work shift come in the way of our plans. She has 3 jobs. After 2 weeks, we finally did meet up in the morning 10am because that's the only time she had available. Its clear over text that she was super unsure about me; asking for my Instagram and other things to confirm that its safe. Even when we met up, she was still expressing some concern but she did relax a bit. Even invited me to join her the next day for a photoshoot she was doing because she didn't know the people she was capturing. Anyway, we had a picnic by the water and shared our interests and we like a lot of the same music. After eating, we went to my campervan and after some mild resistance, she wanted to hook up and we did. I drove her home, all good. Next day, I asked if she needed me at the photoshoot after her not saying anything all day and it was almost time to be there. She said she was fine and didn't need me there in a roundabout unclear way in which I replied with a thumbs up emoji. And she "loved" the text. A week later, I texted her "Hey, how've you been busy girl? " . 12 hours later she replied "hey! I've been working and enjoying the weather haha wbu?" at 11 on a friday night . The next day (Saturday) 1pm, I say "Aw nice, me too. You free next week to do something?" The next day (Sunday) I hear nothing. Monday, I get a read receipt but no reply or acknowledgement. Finally tuesday 1am, she replies with "i have a couple of hours tomorrow morning, Wednesday evening, or Thursday lunch" so basically 3 days later she replies. Meanwhile, in the meantime I'm going out with friends, doing work, did a few approaches, got one pretty Korean girls number who lives 40 minutes away in a city I visit most weeks. Even with that all, I was feeling hurt that she was ignoring me and even with her reply, I feel like not acknowledging her taking 3 days and just accepting the date seems wrong somehow. Its like, almost everything about her texting indicates shes not interested, and most people would say so but then she makes plans and hooks up. Now some dating advice would say "take 2-3 days to reply back like she did so you don't seem more invested in her than her into you" and others say, that "even though its hypocritical, it'll piss her off if you do it back and could lose her" Im just kind of tired of suffering waiting for her texts even if there's some romance and sex for a few hours at the end of it. (Im already doing things like the Sedona method, meditation, etc to process my feelings around being ignored) What do you think I should do next? I have already told her before that I had to cancel a plan because it was too short notice after her taking so long to reply. Thanks

"No, try to become that mindset. Practice it at all times so it starts to become who you are. Women can also sense wanababe's. You probably don't have to work that hard, though, with a name like Fabio. lol. That's a player's name..hehe." @Princess Arabia Hah thanks.. Some friends say "make up a nickname" and Im like "I dont need to, they already don't believe its my real name and want to see my ID lol"

A noble goal. Thanks. The irony is , if another girl wanted to hook up that same night, it would have felt like a chore hahahaha, But I'll try to get that mindset at the beginning of the night.

lol ya I mean thats ideal. From a couple of minutes of watching his other video, it seems he's already known by a lot of people and lives this life style. Seen as high as status in his community and has a relaxed confidence, and truly has a ton of options. Ya, when your game is that good, dress good and you're making good money, and you actually care less whether the next girl works out, it becomes easy mode. For 95% of guys on this forum who aren't extroverted or experienced, this will be like a 5 year goal if they work hard. Its not something you execute smoothly without experience by just watching a video lol. Though it can happen by accident on a good night out here and there. One night I hooked up with a girl, and went back to the bar 10 minutes later and like 3 girls approached me. I wasn't that attracted, but it was unusual. I could swear they could smell the natural perfume the last girl left on me and how little I cared about getting them. One was like trying hard. Another made out. haha. Its weird. Not my average night out currently. I take this post more as a vision board of how you'd like to be approached by your dream pre-selected alpha lol.

Try this one. Its kinda geared a bit more for sales, but its still relevant and carries over to other areas of life. Try the exercises at home with the video to get the most value out of it. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1005899459919129&ref=sharing I wrote in notes that there is some exercises around 1:22:00 . There is more parts of the video that he does other exercises. The point is not to talk like this all the time, its so you can if you want to.

Its opening a can of worms.. I agree, getting good at pick up is a long, process with a lot of disappointments along the way, as well as a lot of fun and learning experiences. The main lesson lately I learned is to control your own state. To game yourself If you will. As far as this "Any guy who has developed this legendary skill should feel entitled to use it whenever and however guilt free. ." I can see this being a bit of a dangerous mindset. Its like creating a weapon over years, and because of the difficulty of acquiring it, you are now entitled to torture anybody in however way pleasures yourself. Of course, I'm kinda exaggerating the pain caused by dating but taken too far, its unnecessary suffering. For one, you need to ask yourself your moral character and what you would feel good about. Do you feel better about yourself having sex with a girl who only wants a relationship to marry and you lie to her? As well, if you are truly the amazing pick up artist who can attract many attractive women, are you going to really choose to resort to methods that you consider or even wonder are "immoral"? Or you going to choose situations that feed your soul as much as possible? Something to think about. Something I wonder myself of what's possible. Many women seem to choose low consciousness behavior, and you aren't going to change that. But if I can, id prefer to date in a way that makes me feel like I did the right thing,. And that might be a dirty hookup with a girl who wants the same thing and probably cares less if I commit to her. Or date a girl that wants a relationship and likes the activities that I like. That sounds even better. You might be different. Catch the drift?

@Something Funny Ive been enjoying Owen cooks content (paid and on Youtube). Some people criticize his over the top loud personality, but I went to his free tour last week and I got to say, he surely stretches your comfort zone. Especially if you try to replicate him. Best to try to imitate his exercises in your house if your only watching his videos to learn better. I spoke in front of the room, and he kept yelling "louder!" even though I thought I was shouting already. This is because its a big room. But it's easy to get in a routine behavior and not even realize the diverse ways we can express ourselves. Also, Bioenergetics can help. Elliot sometimes talks about his religious beliefs more in recent years, but you can ignore the religious parts of it and look at the exercises at a face value perspective.

Thanks everyone for the feedback. It means a lot! Last weekend I went to the Owen Cook free tour in Seattle and ended up on a one night BootCamp where he was out in the field with us, it was amazing, almost spiritual energy.. hard to explain. Anyway, Owen loaned us his wheelchair and I did my favorite approach of the night with it haha.

I see after posting that someone else posted this already. But double confirmed

Thats kinda true, if you only approached people who were pre selecting you then it would be higher. But in the real world for most people, on average that is roughly the numbers. And why its NOT useless, is because it sets your expectations low and so you can realize there's nothing wrong with you for having a low amount of outcomes per number of approaches. Sure, it could be luckily higher but its easier if you set the bar low.

@NoSelfSelf I wouldnt say im pissed if I brought it up. Just that her taking 1-3 days to reply to text messages doesn't motivate me to date her in a calm tone. Even so, it could back lash.. but some advice Ive been hearing in the last few years is "tell her how it makes you feel without blaming her" . I never did that in the past, I always tried to hide things that bother me so as to not "fail her shit test". You guys are way more aware of how I feel about this then she does; I barely text her other than once a week to setup plans or to coordinate plans. Also, she replied today saying she "could meet tonight at 8:30" I said because of the forums advice "I’m pretty busy, unless you can meet in my city, let’s do another time" which she replied "another time sounds good too!" . And I left it at that. Obviously, she doesn't care about me and I shouldn't either. But shes interested enough to meet up, and likely hook up as long as I don't mess it up. Anyway, going forward I won't contact her again and let her contact me first, if not, we won't ever speak. As far as everyone saying Im needy, obviously I need to dive deep into my self. Id think the same thing if a guy wrote on a forum saying what I did. But Im also more aware of myself as a whole than people can perceive through messages, and know I pass on a lot of girls that arent to my standards and also endure a lot of rejections in cold approach which I laugh off and continue with my night. Her not replying also happened in a particularly stressful time where other things in my life are stressing me out as well as Ive been sleeping like shit, so this is probably a wake up call to get myself together. I don't think its that Im attached to her as much as Im not getting an emotional need met and Im fixating on her being the solution. This is something that has been an off and on problem my whole life and I need to learn how to weed it out, and I've done quite a bit of inner work already but this could take decades; I started inner work in 2013. Anyway, thanks to everybody support and hope ya'll got some entertainment from my mistakes lol.

@Schizophonia Im aware women do that... I was sure she was uninterested for a while ; but then she makes plans and hooks up. Thus part of the reason of this post, it seems unusual

she'd have to bus to come over to my place. And damn demanding dinner lol I might just tell her Im busy this week. I mean, it was a bit of a quickie, she had work in like half hour so ya not the best it could've been

I like that meth addicted squirrel analogy. I think she was attracted in person, she was super wet before we hooked up on our first date.. but ya, she has like a couple thousand followers on IG, and I have like 300 something.. Im decent looking, artistic/musician type, but financially at the moment I am far from where I want to be , but working on it. The question is, you don't think I should mention that I feel less like going on dates when she takes 3 days to reply? I've been trying to invest less mentally in to her but I'm kind of attached of a fantasy that I want a woman to fill. But when Im ignored, it triggers pain. If I go on a date with her and don't mention her taking long to reply, then Ill be suppressing my feelings, but sounds like its necessary. Wouldn't be the first time I suppress it. Ive been trying to keep my mind occupied, but after 24 hours ignored, it is in the back of my mind a lot. Not sure how to make it stop but I'll take all the advice in this thread into consideration. Yes, talking to other women does take my mind off of it temporarily but I need to make a decision whether to take her out tonight or tomorrow, and may say Im busy this week. Thanks guys

@NoSelfSelfThat's exactly what Im experiencing.. Its like she has replied saying her 3 times she's available but after 3 days I feel like not taking her lmao

If you learn from pick up artist Mike Mehlman, he says If you are boldly approaching attractive women whether or not they seem interested before the approach. 20-30% will give you their numbers, and 1%-2% of them will sleep with you. So that means if you want to sleep with 1-2 women in the next week, you'll probably have to approach 100 women confidently and know how to move things into the bedroom. He recorded these findings in Japan in 2020-2021, where he can approach 300 women a day in busy subways and get 20-80 numbers. He's literally approached tens of thousands of women over his life and believes the secret sauce is in stomaching rejection incessantly. One of my favs on the subject of pick up.

lol the norm is funny. Any recommendations on where to learn these hours of sex? Is it as simple as taking your time for hours? @BlessedLion

Interesting mini doc about Big Foot from BC, Canada where I live. I always thought it was a sham, but this doc has some interesting footage that looks realistic. Would be cool if Big Foot came out of the woods around the same time Aliens come out of the sky. Could be within the next couple years, we'll see. https://globalnews.ca/news/8070027/bigfoot-canada-photo-video/

@IronFoot Its a lot of info to process and consider after one read but It sounds like there's is cons to staying and to quitting and that you care about your reputation going south if you stay or leave and that you are done with this work either way. So in a sense, there isn't a wrong decision as far as your jobs standing goes since you don't want to work there anyway. If you have time to apply for jobs while working there , then that is the safest option since you still have an income. Like when a man initiates a break up, its always the most exciting before hand with the new freedom. But when the reality sinks in a couple weeks later, it can kinda suck if they don't have a replacement of sorts. Have you done the life purpose course? Maybe there's something you've learned that you'd enjoy going towards working at. Ultimately, if you can afford to do so and are motivated to find a new job within a couple months, it sounds like you can afford quitting, but that's your choice. Selling Bitcoin before or around $100k USD isn't a bad decision as it has already made quite a rise. I doubt it will go over $200k this cycle, basically a 2.5x from here and could easily crash before $200k down 80% from the highs like before. Anyway. You understand your situation better than anyone, its just nice to have people validate your ideas I'm sure. So IMO, it sounds like unless your staying in the same narrow space of the industry, then either option would be fine; and then again.. I think people in the industry understand the cons of the job and would accept you as an experienced candidate for a similar job if you've been an otherwise good worker if something happens if you stay longer while you find another job. But up to you.

@kamill Of course research all you can about vocal recovery and take all the time to recover and maybe hiring a vocal coach if you haven't already . The worst thing you can do is do singing strenuously. Many famous singers have dealt with this and continue their careers so since you have the talent then you'll likely get through this.. Im a musician myself, without getting too much into my story it is a long road with obstacles especially to make a career of it. But so is any career path, so if you love it then its worth it. Though I have had a side income the whole time so far.

Ya, but not always a lot. Ive dated a girl for a month while travelling that happened with. Clearly the alcohol wasn't the only factor in her attraction

"dont make it weird" might mean her friends are watching or she's embarrassed of how many people are watching. But I doubt she'd say that over touching her shoulder unless you like linger your arm there awkwardly long, you should be able to feel this distinction in the moment. You can tell if she's teasing you if she is still in a FUN vibe while saying it and not frowning or something. Always best to react in a relaxed, fun manner. If you ask her to walk to a different part of the venue and she comes, then she likely is into you at some level. You can walk somewhere more private and then try to physically escalate with her a bit and see how she responds without her friends watching (Its usually obvious to me when shes interested in making out by the way she stands less than a foot away from me). If you move in closer and she moves back, that is low interest. If she doesn't react or smiles, your still good. If you touch her in a way she is uncomfortable with, she'll likely excuse herself from the conversation and she won't come back. Don't chase, and move on to someone else. Or she'll ask you to stop, and then you stop and continue the conversation as if it hasn't happened and maybe later she touches you a bit but most likely if she told you to stop, within 5 minutes the conversation will fizzle out. Its a sign of low sexual interest. Move on to someone else.

I dont imagine id be into a biological sister if i had one, but I know a guy with a step sister who lives in his house for a couple weeks a year. She is decent looking with a big rack and sometimes give off a fun, somewhat flirty vibe. He sometimes get off on the fantasy of secretly hooking up with her but would never try because of the likely family consequences. The off limits nature can create a lot of pent up sexual tension at times.

Not sure what you mean by no beginning or end? Sounds like the way they talk about time in like quantum physics. Can read about that elsewhere. Why wasn't our technology introduced a long time ago? It's a complicated answer that is out of my ability to answer definitely. But the intuitive answer is because that's the just the way time and advancement was laid out by our creator. From us being supposed "bacteria" that evolved over a large amount of time into cavemen. Then into the stone age, bronze age, etc until now . All these stages required utilizing the previous technology to then create more efficient technology to complete the same tasks. Steam engines and railroads made transporting food possible and creating boats made travelling the world and seeing other countries methods of living as well as shipping goods. Instead of walking a year to another continent, you can take a flight for 8 hours. Because they made computers in the last 100 years, they could save the progress of previous generations and use that knowledge and more advanced technology to speed up the amount of progress even faster and that just continues to snowball. Now some computers can learn automatically on its own. What I said about writing with just your mind in 1000 years is already in its first stages with technology like Neurolink and might be only 20 years or less. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ya-bAYri84