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It always will be propaganda for you, no matter what, you can't see beyond your cynical view.

No, it's just you the one who doesn't want to listen and stuck in your bias that IDF is some sadistic devil. If they were interested in hurting innocents they wouldn't request them to evacuate. You don't know how IDF operates, you don't know its values and agenda better than Israeli here who know the army's mentality because they share the same mentality and served there. And yes, it's rude to claim that you know better than someone who knows it closer than you.

Liberal influence in the media. Which is not bad, but can be too black and white and lack in nuance. It's automatically presents Palestine as the weak and good while Israel as the strong and bad. Which is not necessarily correct as the reality is more complex than that.

The world only cares about deaths when it's done by Israel. Other deaths are fine and can be ignored.

Israeli army protecting Gaza civilians from Hamas terrorists shooting Gaza civilians while they are moving to the South: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzYioE0N-kr/?igshid=MWk3c21jOTYydWw4eA== This: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czi99ULIoEE/?igshid=MnZ5dnJxNXFvcmFv This: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzjU5tmoBqC/?igshid=bW9yOTQ3MXF1Y2Rn They talked about the IDF, not Netanyahu. They know the army in their country, they served there and people here are still rude enough to dismissive their perspective. I'm sure that if their army was ruthless like the Russian army they would have blantly say that. The news you consume might be biased against Israel, bear it in your mind, they may not present the full picture. They would tell you "Israel bombed a building" but they very likely wouldn't mention Israel attempts to evacuate this building and the Hamas attempts of forcing civilians to stay in the building. They don't address Hamas abuse of Palestinians.

It's not ethnical cleaning, it's a war on territory. The Palestinians on the west bank attack soliders and settlers with the purpose to free Palestine, from the river to the sea, this is the ultimate goal. Two nations would like to have 100% of the land and this is how it looks.

No, and Israel is not targeting him. Israel targeting Hamas. Didn't your country, the great USA killed innocent civilians in its wars? How do you so sure they randomly bomb buildings? If Israel had intentions to ethnically cleanse Palestinians, it would have happened long before October 7. Over the years, the Palestinian population has only increased. Israel showed tolerance towards Hamas for an extended period, enduring its acts of terror. However, after October 7, Israel recognized the need to address the threat posed by Hamas and took steps to eliminate it, realizing the potential great danger to the country. This is your problem that you don't believe in Israel. There are Israelis in this forum who have shared their experiences, having grown up in Israel, served in the army, and understand the Israeli mentality and the Israeli army better than you and everyone who claims the IDF is untrustworthy.

Israeli soldiers help Gaza civilians to pass through the humanitarian passage way: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czi99ULIoEE/?igshid=MnZ5dnJxNXFvcmFv

This is very far from being the case, there is no genocide or ethnical cleaning done by Israel. War crimes? Yes, there are no wars without war crimes. There are also war crimes done by Hamas, more severe ones. Are you going to ignore that? What about the constant abuse Hamas do to Israel by suecidal bombers? Hamas who killed and tortured bodies of innocent Israeli people? What about the estimated 50% of Palestinians who support them and celebrated when they did the massacre? What about the Palestinian children who are being taught to hate Jews and to kill them instead of studying Math and English? What about Hamas who use Palestinians as human shields and throw gays from the rooftops, who's their wet dream is to ethnically cleanse Israel from Jews to build a Palestinian dictatorship instead?

From my pov, the Israeli army is pretty conscious for an army, not perfect (and it's understandable because what army is perfect?), but obviously way more conscious than any other army in the middle east. And yes I didn't know about the spokesman, thank you for sharing, I'm not surprised by he attitude and the kindness to his brother, this is what I imagine him to be like. I find it ridiculous how the world is so much focused on hating on IDF/Israel, without realizing how humane it in comparison to other armies. It's also ridiculous that it even being compared to Hamas. I heard that many footages of bombed civilians from the civilian war in Syria are spread across the internet as "Palestinians bombed by Israel". I find it sad how people who hate Israel and demonize it would find any excuse to hate it and justify the terror against it and if they not find something, they invent lies and false information. Israel deserves to exist, there is no question. I wish all the haters would leave it in peace and would finally accept Israel's existence. This conflict is due to the Muslim world not being able to accept a Jewish country in 'their middle eastern territory'. It was one thing if Jews were randomly settling in Israel without any historical context but the reality is that the connection of the Jews people to Israel is ancient. This is what I want to say to the world (replace 'britney' with 'Israel'😂):

The IDF military is unique in its consciousness level. It's a unicorn in the middle east and perhaps in the entire world.

The pro-palestinian students attacked pro-Israel and Jewish students and justified Hamas' terror attacks.

Just another hater.

If Ukraine was as strong/developed as south Korea, a cold war between Ukraine and Russia would have been a reasonable possibility. But from what it looks like, Putin doesn't look like he's going to give up until he gets the entire Ukraine. He doesn't consider Ukraine as something that deserves soverty or separate identification, in his mind it's part of Russia.

Famous Saudi blogger about Palestinians:

I can't 😂

Some humour 😂

Aren't you projecting?

The scope of this massacre is unknown, it's estimated to be between a few dozens to a few hundreds. Also, this was made by a small military division which most of them were former Jews terrorists who joined to the military, it didn't represent the agenda of the military and this massacre was criticized by the military. It's clear that the Nakba is considered a disaster by the Palestinians, something bad and terrible that happened to them by Jews. Perhaps there are attempts to compare it to the holocaust. However, from historical pov, there was a war between Arabs and Jews on territory that was British at that time and the Jews won.

Yes, it was carried out by a group of Jewish terrorists (as defined by the British Mandate) before the Arab-Israeli war on May 14, 1948. They were considered extremities (called "Haezel") who believed in claiming the land through acts of terror against Arabs and British people. However, this does not represent the way Jews fought against Arabs in 1948, which was simply a war of the Jews moderate military "Hahagna" (which evolved to IDF) and Arabs of Israel, including Arabs from Lebanon, Iraq, the Muslim Brotherhood organization, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, and Egypt.

"You will say that what Hitler did to you was a joke - come on, we are waiting for you" Palestinian political activist Ahed Tamimi said. That's when you are raised since birth to hate Jews instead love, co-existence and peace. This is what Israeli soliders are dealing with on the west bank every day, this exact kind of hate, violence and death threats and this is what they are responding to. https://m.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/article-771102

This ZAKA guy talked about bodies that look tortured, it can be done in various ways, it can be done by burning and it can be done by shooting the body many times until it unrecognizable. It was admitted by the arrested Hamas terrorists that they shotcivilians many times and burned homes, look at the longer version of the interviews I shared above.

You are naive for believing that Hamas are nice people. They themselves confessed about the horrible things they did on the 7th of October: Edit: This is the full version of the interviews:

What about "Pallywood"? People in Gaza actively faking death and injury? And what about the Al Madani hospital that was bombed by the Islamic Jihad but Hamas automatically blamed Israel? It makes me wonder about how many deaths in Gaza were blamed on Israel while it wasn't Israel's falut? I understand that people share propaganda from both sides but there are different types of propaganda, some of them are more rooted in reality than others while some of them are completely twisted from reality. And given the level of development of each side, for me, the propaganda of Hamas seems much less reliable than the one of the IDF.

Most people choose sides and most of the people who say they don't chose side, are either don't know much about the conflict, lie to appear more open, or not aware to that they have already chose side. I can see and understand both perspectives and empathize with people on the human level, yet, I choose to support one above the other, because it more represents my values and world view, especially when their value system has more integrity than of the other side.