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Hamas in Gaza and the West Bank, Hezbollah in Lebanon, and the Houthis in Yemen are part of Iran's terror network in the Middle East. There is a cold war between Iran and Saudi Arabia over who would be the ruler of the Middle East. Saudi Arabia has full diplomatic relations with the US, which has always been intimidating for Iran, as it sees the US (and everything related to the US, like Israel) as its enemy. No wonder the Hamas attack happened when Israel and Saudi Arabia started to negotiate normalization with the US as a mediator. Iran knew that if Hamas, financially funded by Iran, attacked Israel, Israel would retaliate, affecting the normalization negotiation attempts between Israel and Saudi Arabia.

Hamas looks to Hitler for inspiration and motivation 🙄 https://www.jns.org/mein-kampf-found-in-kidss-room-used-as-hamas-terror-base/ https://www.foxnews.com/world/arabic-copy-hitlers-mein-kampf-found-childrens-room-used-hamas-israeli-officials

"Hamas is a nationalist movement" lol. Hamas is a Sunni Islamic terrorist organization affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine. They portray themselves as a nationalist resistance movement, but in reality, they are anti-nationalist Muslims. When Hamas commits atrocities under the guise of nationalism, it aims to make their actions more tolerable to the Western world. Because the western world can tolerate killing Israelies if it's under the definition of "nationalistic movement" rather than the anti-nationalist radical Muslims they actually are. Hamas never ceased to be antisemitic, only because they changed their initial highly antisemitic charter to something more tolerable for the western world, doesn't mean they actually changed. They never changed for good, only became more radical and religious over the years. AJ is considered a direct propaganda tool for Hamas, so relying solely on it for information about Hamas automatically leads you to misinformation and undereducation.

"What is striking to me is that even as, again, we hear many countries urging the end to this conflict, which we would all like to see, I hear virtually no one saying – demanding of Hamas that it stop hiding behind civilians, that it lay down its arms, that it surrender. This is over tomorrow if Hamas does that. This would have been over a month ago, six weeks ago, if Hamas had done that,” Blinken said during a press briefing at the State Department Wednesday. “How can it be that there are no demands made of the aggressor and only demands made of the victim,” Blinken went on to say. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/20/politics/blinken-israel-hamas-surrender/index.html

Jews in Israel should have been committed collective suicide or let Hitler or other Nazis to finish the work, ignore the Jewish ancient connection to Israel and allow Arabs to have Israel as the 22th Muslim state in the world. Only that would be considered fair to these people.

@Danioover9000 Could you share the messages that have been sent to you by the three users you tagged? I am certain that I have never sent any messages to you.

😂 That's totally unfair.

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There was the Oslo Agreement in which Israel provides water for the West Bank and Gaza. If they deliberately break the agreement, as they did on October 7, Israel would pause the water supply. If Gaza really suffers from a water shortage, despite the money poured into Gaza and the billions for leaders like Mashal, Haniya, and Abbas, they could buy water from Israel, as Jordan has been doing for years, instead of investing in weapons and real estate in Qatar and Turkey. Apparently, weapons are considered more important than water in their priorities. Gaza (Hamas and their supporters, those who were happy about dead Israelis) wants to harm innocent Israelis while expecting free water from them. They can't have both. Sorry, life doesn't work that way. It's not that I don't care about Palestinians lacking water, it's just that your information seems narrow and biased, not fully loyal to reality and lack in many important details.

I don't deny that Israel (as a state, government, army, and culture) has dark sides. The criticism is valid, and there is room to address it. However, the discussion here often becomes disproportionate, demonizing Israel while overlooking the flaws and mistakes of the other side in the conflict and their responsibility in this conflict. It's not obvious to everyone here that Hamas is a terror organization, apparently. Some users deny the severity of the massacre, ridicule it, compare Hamas to the IDF, dispute Hamas being a terror organization, reject the responsibility of Hamas and other terrorist groups for the poor and radicalized conditions of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank, justify the massacre, and spread misinformation about it.

There are people here who seem to simp for Hamas or, at the very least, not address Hamas' faults and legitimately criticize it.

No doubt that Niv is an intelligent guy who sees things both from a stage Yellow and the Israeli perspective and I glad that you value his opinion, it's a positive sign that there is a movement towards more high quality discussions. I understand that I might come as too self-biased, but I want to empathize that I don't completely deny mistreatment of Israelies, which are often radical settlers, towards Palestinians, I'm very aware to that and believe me or not, it always was in the realm of my concerns. There is a place for criticism and improvement. However, when you share data that is either too biased and ignore the complete picture, or simply share data that is incorrect, I wouldn't accept it and would point to you the other perspective to make you see the whole picture. By your posts, you are very biased towards Palestinians and validly concerned with the mistreatment of Israelies towards Palestinians but you deliberately choose to ignore, the actions Palestinians do which led to this response from Israel and insist of seeing Israel as someone who hurt Palestinians without any reason or for arbitrary reasons, which is not the case. If you really interested in the complete picture and not only information that suits your bias, you need to understand how Palestinians are raised, how they are groomed since a very young age by terrorist organizations with violent and antisemitic doctrine and be critical of it as well. You need to understand that Israeli people live in fear from terror attacks coming from the Palestinian territories, that they have killed Israeli people by committing surprising terror attacks, especially in occasions when we are the most vulnarble like holidays and internal conflicts within ourselves. It seems that you don't have compassion towards the Israeli perspective and you are fully dismissive of it.

This. It seems that there is more talk about going meta and finger-pointing than actually making attempts to do so.

This post summes the situation of Israel so well. It's a frustrating situation. This is so true, they are masters at marketing.

There is a significant bias here in favor of Palestine, with extensive demonization of Israel and misinformation. Why are you blind to that? Of course, if I see someone consuming and sharing incorrect data, I will correct them and explain the other perspective. Don't expect me to support incorrect and misinformed posts just to appear more unbiased for you.

It tells a lot.

For Israel's defense, because Israel is American proxy in the Middle East, an ally, a strategical tool for US. Relax, I'm not your enemy, I speak what I know. Take it or leave it.

This satire is spot on 😳

Criticism of 'Save the Children’s Misleading Report on Detention of Palestinians' https://www.ngo-monitor.org/reports/save-the-childrens-misleading-report-on-detention-of-palestinians/

The thing is that these organizations' data can't be trusted. Especially Save the Children, there is a lot of critisicm about the credibility of their data and about their true intentions in protecting and advocating for children. They claim to be not biased by they are biased as hell. This organization has been researched by NGO monitor which reaserch non-profit organizations such as STC. https://www.ngo-monitor.org/ngos/save_the_children_fund/ Some of their conclusions:

If there was an approved data that isn't made up by some biased organizations and social media accounts it was another story but here it's not the case. Just a talk with no ground in reality. Yes and it's crazy that some people buy so easily into this stage red manipulation. Especially westerns. They are probably the types who get easily scammed by criminals.

Israel has the right to defend itself. It's if Israel limits the access, there is a reason for that, it doesn't come out of no where. Please stop pretending that the people there are innocent victims who never had bad intentions and all they want is to have peace with Israel, it's not correct. Bruh, Israel was occupied by the Arabic empire a while ago, who is the occupier? I doubt that it was happened. No, it's because there are much worse problems in the world and that people understand that most of these claims about mistreatment of Palestinians are incorrect and made up.

You should look at the Palestinian government, who governs then? They are governed by terrorists. These people receive so much money frim all over the world, why don't they use it to improve the lives of the Palestinians? They radicalize their own people, first and foremost.