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Hamas excecuted yesterday 3 Palestinians in the the West Bank because they suspected these people were spying for Israel. The excecution is brutal like in the middle ages, a drama show to the mass, the view of the people with their smartphones to document this as if it's some entertainment makes me sick. Stage red mentality at its finest. https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-775019 This is why there is no chance for a moderate Palestinian leadership as long as they are under the control of Hamas and terrorists organizations alike, because as soon as there will be a moderate leadership who will be cool with peace with Israel, he would be executed. Hamas is more than a physical entity, it's a ideology and the majority of the Arab world, including Palestinians, support it.

He is a total joke 🙄

I read that a group of Israelies have purchased the domain hamas.com and made it on the surface to appear like a Hamas fans website but actually shows videos of the butchery done by Hamas on October 7. I don't recommend checking this, I checked this and this is very graphic.

Hamas released a few hostages in exchange to a ceasefire and releasing prisoners by Israel. Pro-Palestinians: "Hamas is so humane, see?" Israel after all the abuse it received by Hamas since 1986 including the October 7 attack:"🙄🤦🏼‍♀️"

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Palestinians never wanted peace with Israel, since the beginning of Israel's existence, even the most moderate leadership was pro terrorising innocent Israeli people with the purpose to get the entire land. No matter how much Israel tried to have peace with Palestine, they always rejected it. This is enough to support Israel. It's not only a democracy, a light in the draknes of the middle east which indifferent to human rights are get violated by husband's towards their wives in the name of the religion, but a country which tried to have peace with its enemy, despite their hatred and antisemitism. It's sad that many people in the west justify the horrible massacre by Hamas in Israel by the claim that this is because they are occupied. People don't understabd what Hamas is and what are their goals, they even never bothered to read Hamas charter which openly expressing Muslim superiority and antisemitism. When I read Hamas charter I was shocked that this actually what the west is protecting and justifying, awarengly, but mostly out of ignorance. A short summary of Hamas Charter (from Wikipedia): Quotes from the charter translated from Arabic to English: Goals of Hamas- On the destruction of Israel- The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area: The Call to Jihad: Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement: Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty: Anti-Semitic Incitement: Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Charter?wprov=sfla1 https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

If you look at the big picture, it's a war between Western and non Western values. Democracy vs Dictatorship mentality. North Korea, Iran and Qatar financing Hamas. Syria, China, Russia also support Hamas and Palestine. Why? Because they share the same values and they all have a common enemy which is US, Europe, the West and Western values. It's a war between Western values such as liberalism, democracy, human rights and between conservatism, dictatorship, violence and human rights violation. Why would America support Palestine and Hamas if it's supported by countries who hate America and want to eliminate it? Kim Jong Un said himself openly that North Korea would like to eliminate US. He is very passionate about it. I don't know if he is really capable of it alone that's another question. Also, Israel is the only America's ally in the middle east, which is beneficial strategically to US because Israel serves as proxy if required. This is why no US president with minimal brain will ever cease to support Israel. Even Trump supported Israel. Countries with certain values naturally incline to support countries who share the same values. The issue with Western liberals is that they don't see the big picture and easily fall to stupid compassion and manipulation by Hamas who knows how to market themselves and use the western nativity to gain support in order to promote their radical Islamic, anti-american, anti western, antisemitic, homophobic and myogenic ideology. They literally believe to everything Hamas says because they assume that Hamas is just like themselves.

If there is such a torture, why the population not decreasing but only growing with the years? Why there is no normal education to be a civilizied human being instead of being radical antisemitic Islamist depsite all the money poured to there? Gaza isn't occupied by Israel for 20 years why it's still stuck regardless the enomourous financial support it receives from the world and Israel? Why Palestinians resist the two state solution, peace with Israel?

Luckily Israel's existence doesn't depend on people who don't even know where Israel is on the map or discovered this only a month ago 😊 If Israel's existence was dependent on their opinions, shallow understanding and empty definitions like 'occupation', Israel would've existed. There is Israel, and there will be Israel despite their evil wishes, they can be angry and sad as much as they want. It's their luck that they live in safety and no one is threatening their lives and people don't blame them while they are trying to defend themselves. I wish they had the wisdom to appreciate it.

UN is biased AF against Israel. If you think UN is objective this is hilarious. It fails to condomn Hamas crimes which are a real threat for humanity. And it's not only me who's thinking that, a person who grew up with Hamas and was one of them says it in his speech to UN.

Criticism is always necessary. However, when it comes in a disproportionate amount with questioning the right of Jews to exist in Israel, despite their strong history and connection to this place, despite being explled from dozens of countries due to irrational antisemitism, despite Muslim Arabs have so many countries, disproportionate blaming on Israel without condomning savages more dangerous than Nazis like Hamas, it's very clear that it's antisemitism. Any attempt to deny antisemitism and say that there is no antisemitism involved in this conflict, is gaslighting. Jews also were expelled by Muslims in the Muslim countries, after they escaped to Muslim countries from Europe so painting an image that Muslims are more tolerant towards Jews would be a joke. There are barely any Jews in Muslim countries. This is why having Israel is so important for Jews. History proved no place is safe for Jews. Even in Israel they prescued by radical antisemitic entities like Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas but at least they have army to defend themselves.

Lol, you compare Arabs in Israel to Jews in a concentration camp. This is so disconnected from reality and doesn't respect holocaust survivors who actually were in concentration camps nor Arabs in Israel who live decently, with religious freedom and better than most Arabs in the world. Additionally, it's more difficult for Arabs in Israel to admit how good their lives in Israel are since Arabs in the world and even radicals in their community can see this as betrayal. This is your problem that you don't take it seriously, only because you believe in some delusional reality of Arabs in Israel due to your bias and demonization of Israel without spending one day in Israel, doesn't mean it's the truth.

They have problem with Hamas and their leadership as well. If someone is occupying them is their leaders. The main reason for 7 October attack or any attack on Israel, by Hamas Hezbollah, Iran or whatever country in the ME is antisemitism. It's stated in Hamas doctrine that their goal is to eliminate Jews. Not only Israel, not Zionists, but Jews. Like Hitler. When someone hate Jews because they are Jews, which is irrational by itself, it cannot be understood rationally. The cause and effect rule doesn't apply in this case. They attack Jews because they hate them and want to eliminate them. That's it. It's not even close to the hatred Palestinian children are raised towards Jews. It's literally integrated in their school program. They are humans, developed doesn't mean perfect. It's better to live in a developed country rather than in not so developed. It's better and safer for Muslims to live under a Jewish leadership rather than for Jews under a Muslim leadership.

This is not true, you selectively choose people in Israel who expressed it, some PM of Israel 70 years ago and some radical settler but history proves Israel doesn't care about having two states as long as it promises peace. Israel gave up on Sinai for peace with Egypt and Israel gave up on Gaza for peace with Palestine. Is that work? No, instead of investing in Gaza and WB and building a beautiful state of Palestinian, they invested in weapon against Israel. Israel doesn't remove the Al-Aqsa mosque and rebuild the Jewish temple there was prior to the mosque, only because it values peace with the Arab world. Even though this place considered the holliest place for Jews and only the 3rd holiest place for Islam. Prior to attack, Israel tried to form Peace with Saudia. Israel is the most peaceful state in the ME region.

Young people usually immigrate to US or Europe for education purposes. And the rest... why would they immegrate? Most of them are Muslims who love their culture, their country and living around Muslims, they are not fond of the west and western values, especially the older generations. They would tolerate curropted leadership and less human rights and democracy rather than starting everything in a new country and living as a foreigner in a new country with secularism, LGBTQ and feminism, women with short pants and transgenders which doesn't suit their values. If they have no problem with Israel governing them, why you should have a problem? So Hamas is stage green? Gotcha. Now seriously, for the Arab world to evolve to green they should first integrate orange, you know, science, accepting the evulotion theory, logic, human rights and individual freedom over religion. But they are still very deep into Islam and dismissive of evolution, the idea that we are family with monkeys is probably triggering for the majority of them. Israel is really developed in comparison to the Arab world. And if the Arab world should give up on Israel it's not necessarily because Israel is more developed but more because Muslim Arabs have so much territory.

The Palestinian authority never wanted or believed in two state solution. This is their core value in their doctrine, they wouldn't compromise on less than 100%. That is why they will never be satisfied with Gaza and the WB alone and will keep doing attacks on Israel until they get 100% of the land. There is a change of two states if there will be a paradigm shift in the Palestinian consciousness, to accept the right of Jews to have a Jewish country in the Jewish historical land and stop fighting and trying to kill Jews. Then it will be possible to negotiate some peaceful solution. Otherwise it would be suicidal of Israel to negotiate such thing with someone that antisemitic.

Most Arabs countries are suck for living due to lack in democracy, development, liberalism and human rights. It's not unique to Palestinians in Gaza or WB which means it's not Israel to blame. People who really know how Arabs live in the middle east claim that Palestinians in Gaza and WB have life quality similar to most Arabs in Arab countries, and even better.

That's one of the reasons why the term "occupation" in relation to Israel is absurd.

Many people who have never been in Israel and don't know where Israel is even located on the map, say: "Israel is an apartheid state." Arabs in Israel:

B e a u t i f u l .

The last videos of hostages Hamas released, show that the hostages were alive when Hamas took them and Hamas executed them in the captivity. They literally show a person alive in a video and then its dead body. This is so sick and brutal. And people literally justify this cruelty and see this as legitimate "resistance".

Islam is a religion and like many religions it's suffecating, misogynist, hypocratic, self righteous, ignorant. I have respect to any religion but I don't want any religion to control the world, I don't want to live under Muslim Shriiet, I don't want to be forced to it. I don't like the fact that there are Muslim terrorists like Hamas, ISIS, Muslim Brotherhood who believe that everybody must to be a Muslim and they would kill innocents just because they are not Muslims.or not following Islam rules. This is scary to be surrounded by people who prefer you dead than non-Muslim. I don't care them practicing Islam peacefully and leave others alone. In fact, moderate Muslims many times are kind and generous people. The Arab and the Muslim culture has beautiful and intresting aspects in it, if we ignore the toxic and the religious dogma. I also love the mystical Islam, the Sufism, this is a very wise, beautiful and inspiring for me personally. But I don't love the fact that the Arab Muslim world doesn't like Jews and Israel, I don't see a rational reason for that, only primitive and religious. I don't understand why they can't allow one Jewish country to exist while they have so many land to be Muslim and practice Islam. This is the the aspect in Islam that I don't like, the belief that Islam is superior to everything and that everyone should be a Muslim. They want Europe and America to be that way at the end, they don't appreciate that people have the right and the soverty to believe in what they want to believe and that not believing in Islam doesn't make you some bad person who deserves death.

Definitely 😉

Also there are many 'Palestinians' who are Egyptians, Jordanians. Arafat, the first leader of what is called PNA was born and grew up in Egypt. Because Palestinians never had real nationalistic intentions, as you said, they define themselves as Palestinians against the Jews in Israel but in reality they see themselves as part of the Arab world in the middle east, like part of some big Arab tribe. So if they are under the Jordanian or Egyptian occupation that would be fine for them. Even their flag is not different from other Arab flags. The Palestinian flag is the old flag of Jordan. In order to have really nationalistic intentions a group needs to be at least orange in SD and the Palestinians as a group are not there yet. Their excuse in fighting Israel is that they want to have soverty as a nation, but actually their Muslim Arab pride was hurt because Jews won them in the war and they cannot accept the lost against Jews.

I love Israel. I know many people love to hate Israel. But Israel always was strong and advanced depiste all the haters. And it will be so. They think that the more they hate on Israel, the faster it will be ruined. But the truth is that their hatred around the world fuels Israel to be even better and stronger. Which causes them to hate Israel even more, which makes Israel even more better and stronger 🙈