Davino

Literally the same that Jung said. That's why Carl warned young individuals about deconstructing ego before having fully developed it. Such a multidecade trap, like dressing and undressing yourself at the same time. This is something I struggled a lot while Awakening in my teens and trying to build up a nice human life at the same time. So just a cautionary tale of how Awakening can negatively impact Growing up or maturity, particularly at premature ages. To the peak of the mountain

Like the difference between a kid that received a sweet And Willy Wonka

That can be the case with the Abrahamic tradition While it is common for scriptures to be compiled by followers posthumously (due to illiteracy), cases like those of Adi Shankaracharya, Guru Nanak, Hildegard of Bingen or Laozi show that many texts are actually writen by educated mystics who directly authored foundational texts.

Hopefully you realize how you betrayed yourself and how Tate exploited that in you. You cannot outsource responsibility for your own self-deception; all these bloodsuckers just take advantage of it: of your needs, of your insecurities, of your fears, of your ignorance, of your immaturity... Egocentrist don't sacrifice lions, they eat lambs. Don't be a sheep!

Regarding your points about new age and the unitive maturity stage. This is what I have to say: Having said this, I ask myself how developed can you be without stumbling into Awakening? In the same way, how developed can a society be without collectively recognising Trascendence and Infinity Consciousness?

@Carl-Richard I've been reflecting about your post, thanks for clarifying what you actually meant. In short, I think you are overemphasizing a reasonable limitation. In long, let me evaluate: This what I would say: I invite you to contemplate the intertwined nature of personal development and societal development. So much so that maybe you cannot separate one from the other. Quoting Susan: See, now the situation gets more nuanced. On the one hand we must understand the commonalities of human expression and development universally, and on the other we must understand and humble ourselves with the intrinsic dependency of culture and language. It is well known for example that the Hindu psyche is the most evolved one, with a reservoir of psychic unconscious tools engrained in the minds of the cultural descendants: The Hindu psyche predates the American psyche by thousands of years, contrasting millennia of cultural layering and introspective refinement versus the relatively nascent, pragmatic focus of the American cultural mind. This massive temporal gap highlights why the Hindu tradition possesses such mature psychic tools and frameworks for understanding existence. So it is clear that the individual egoic development is going to be immensely shaped by the cultural tradition one is born in. Therefore, it actually makes sense to do applied cultural ego developmental models as well as striving for universally applicable principle-based models.

As a sage once said: Being good is its own reward

Bhagavad Gita reflections by Alan Watts (case 3)

I'm still a monkey in many waysz don't misunderstand me But eagle I prefer to be

Cognitive Development Insights : -<Systems Thinking-> <->Holism<-> §TRANGE LOOPπ

Genocide Jewish the Historical Strange Loop

Information Terrorists That's what they are Truth Terrorist That's what I am Love is in All and All is Love Ever-Present-Awake Poetry twisting my tong eating eat self in All

Case 2

Well, that's not a point that is called the scope of a scientific study and it's always stated at the beginning of all papers. So your request is to have a study with broder scope, well maybe mine also, but when you study a model it has specific limits and constrictions which are properly stated. It's like you are surprised the food is western when you are going to a western restaurant, you expect an exotic indian dish or a buffet of all cuisines, well that requires another type of funding and research. Ken Wilber in Sex, Ecology, Spirituality: The Spirit of Evolution (Second Edition where he answers doubts as the ones you presented here). Moreover I ask myself, if you doubt that any model can be universal but then critice when models are specific for a certain type of psyche or area, what is your point? Really? I didn't get that vibe at all. I'll give it another check but I never cognised it remotely that way. Could you tell me where you have seen the bias in the study or something that really stood out so that I can avoid the mistake? Moreover, I still don't see the problem of being a western model if we are westerners. That's even better, the scope and specificity helps us in this case. This is what it says about samples: I don't understand your demand for universality and if you actually understand how unrealistic and time/money costly it is. Moreover, in the end it could even offer you less value than the current EDT specific approach, done in expertise to your psyche type, the western.

That is mentioned in his paper and in the first paragraph of the summary provided. If you care to read it, learn and leave your cynicism and closemindedness behind. The only theory which has proven to be universal is Erikson and is quite rudimentary. Sometimes you have a trade off between broadness and deepness in these models. In what ways you found the EDT to be limiting because of being a western model? Given that you are probably western isn't it useful to learn how your psyche will probably develop? Developmental psychology is quite a field of study, there's much to be learnt despite its limitations. I have found no better field of study for human understanding and satisfaction than this one. So I kindly invite you to reconsider and to devote yourself to the understanding of these models, as they can be benefitial beyond expectation. It's only 90 pages long the whole paper, so you can read it in a few weeks and report back.

@Hardkill When I was around 15 I took a decision that independently of the historical, political, societal, cultural, economical ecosystem I found myself in, I would comit to live my best life. I decided that I would make myself to thrive in any environment, if there is capitalism I'll crack the system of capitalism, if there is comunism or feudalism the same, civil war or WW3; whatever happens I'm integrated with living my best life and dying for it.

You've said many times you use music for contemplation. I wonder if we'll get a second part of Actualized.org's music. On the other hand, maybe you've heard me recommend brain.fm music and I really insist you to give it an honest try. I really think it can bring your music experience to the next level, it has done it with me. You can customize it and tweak it to your taste.

I loved the humming bird video, it made me cry of beauty. The Dragonfly was also fascinating. I'm thinking about making a fauna and flora challenge as well. The two objectives would be: Recognise the vegetable and animal life around my area. Learn about the coolest living organisms on earth

@mrroboto Funny enough some time ago I asked Claude to tell me something very important that even very intelligent people overlooked. He answered me about the role that randomness plays in our life, how seemengly aleatory events can shape our whole identity, pov, wife/husband, friends, job...

It allows me to undress all human constructs, it happens spontaneously in some profound trips. Also clothing can feel uncomfortable at super high doses.

The other day I had the following Awakening

The event was a clear sign of the incompetence of our politicians, which were unable to prevent the situation, nor to react properly and not even to assume responsability afterwards.

Certainly an eye-opening series, after watching make up your mind. It's interesting to see long-standing historical narratives being challenged and to explore how the past might have truly been.

I've been in the forum for some years and I have arrived to a point where I'm quite disillusioned by it. Given the immense quality of Leo's teachings: I hoped to find plenty of Mature Tier 2 Individuals, Highly Conscious God-Aware Mystics and Intelligent Wise Philosophers. I was in for a rude Awakening! I got plenty of value in the beginning time of my forum use but as I kept evolving, putting in hard work and actualizing Leo's content: I found myself too far ahead in the race and no one to talk with or receive proper guidance from. Now the situation is quite severe, I seldom receive value from this Forum. I enjoy giving value but it's also time demanding and consuming. Moreover, it is quite unnecessary, as an AI would give as good advice as me in most cases or arguable even better. In the same way, all conversations I have in the platform I can have them with AI, and it's proven to be so much more constructive, egoless and insightful. Probably spirituality is the sticking point with AI but as I have no trouble but blessings in that area, I therefore feel no shortages, and if I do, who is there to give advice and moreover, at those levels what advice can be given. Sharing my awakenings and mystical expertise in the spiritual subforum is most of the time useless because individuals are ignorantly stubborn, or experts in a few states of consciousness or highly realized and satisfied where they're at. Moving forward, I see a decrease in my forum use. Probably only checking the blog post and some of Leo's comments. AI will become my companion and I'll allocate my time in more fruitful activities. Which is my advice to everyone here: you gotta read books, you gotta do the hard emotional work of growing yourself, you gotta mature, you gotta have a stable fulfilling life, master all the basics and commit to perpetual evolution. This essence is contained in my signature. Just wanted to share how I feel and also thank for the immense value the Actualized.org Forum and community has provided me over the years. Lots of Love, Davino Atmabrahmananda