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Why this shit seems human national geographic I love it!

I can get into state without substances just by consciousness but I sometimes find it hard to get others into the same mood, most people are too solid and takes for them too much to build state. So now I'm working on the transition, I kinda feel weird because I cannot let myself go completely because the group is not there yet but state is one of those things which is all or nothing and getting that balance and transition right is becoming an interesting new challenge. Any advice Leo?

Fuck, that's me! This is my love language hshshshsh

Totally agree

You shine brighter

I would wear Osho's watch. I'm a jewellery nerd so I'm guilty of that. It's interesting because I find no appeal for costly material possessions but for Jewellery and Rudraksha. I would wear expensive Jewells even if I was the last human on planet earth. I just feel an incomprehensible beauty and fascination for precious metals, gems and Rudrakshas, they make my human self very happy. It's a whole fucking science of conscious-energetic interacting materials that I've been discovering and refining over the years. Just a weird niche of mine.

@Human Mint Thanks for bringing great examples. I have a very abstract high level mind and sometimes I struggle to narrow it down and give such a good list as you did. I like the point about judging and criticising others, we should encourage multiperspectival conversations, just enjoying the contrast of each perspective into the topic discussed. Instead of trying to prove wrong or prove that I'm right, just egoless learning and enriching. How could we enrich each others lives? Let's become value providers!

@Michael569 It does help. I lack the first hand experience on aging and your perspective is very much valued. I liked the hormonal switch analogy.

My understanding and experience as for now is that Consciousness has a profound impact in all the activities I do and decide to learn, yet I don't want to delude myself thinking this will remain the case as time goes on. So could I stay confident that my consciousness work will still stay present as I get older? This is an axiomatic point that would have an impact in my decision-making. @Leo Gura That's why, as one ages, it might be necessary to take bold decisions in order to force yourself out of stagnation; if one cares to grow beyond its comfort zone in the way it did in the good old days of youth

My grandma at 90 is so lucid and healthy, yet there is no doubt how much regress in her faculties has happened despite her wisdom and life experience. This thread is just about observable facts, for me and for many people, which is why studies and contemplations of this kind proliferate in the first place.

I think he's the bad cop mod of the forum, we also need those, but I ain't tolerating bullshit against my persona

Perhaps experience is the biggest asset of the aged mind

@BlueOak That was very very good. What I could infere that surprised me is the tendency towards rigidity of mind, like it's not as flexible to adapt, learn and thrive due to biophysical constrictions as well as socioeconomical restrictions, right?

@woohoo123 So have you noticed a reduction in your ambition? So it's easier to deepen what you've already built skills upon but harder to enter new domains and grind through the resistance, right? This is helpful thanks

Yes, that's an important factor to weight, not the if but the when. That one declines over time is a basic observable fact, when a significant chunk of your capabilities will reduce to a threshold is more tricky to tackle. The point is I want to allocate many skills in my life and I'm unsure to when do it. I want to keep on studying different degrees as I become older in those areas where self-education is not possible as well as learning to play the piano and many others. Obviously not all decisions have the same importance and survival function but nevertheless are to be taken. Let's say I've taken the decisions to play the piano but I don't know when to do it. If I know my conditions will be fine I can postpone it up until my forties where all my survival activities and dreams will be consolidated. However, if I get to understand that by that time it will be substantially more tedious, maybe I start in five years doing just one class every two weeks or something like that. So that's a concrete example of the contemplation at hand and the reason of being for this thread.

It depends on what you're aiming for. New perspectives, little shift in consciousness, ego check, desire to reconnect briefly with the trascendental -> Low doses Spiritual work, meditation, yoga, contemplation, deconstruction -> Medium doses Awakenings, Breakthroughs, God-Realizations -> High Doses Uncharted territories, danger, insanity, overdose, physical death -> Massive doses Honestly I think they all have their value but the biggest ilusion shattered for me has been in the massive doses domain. More is sometimes less, there's a sweet spot in the ammount of substance to take for Awakening. My biggest Malt dose was very dissapointing, it was crazy energetic breakthrough and crazy unmeadiated consciousness; but no Awakening, no God, just handling the Malt and riding the dragon kinda trip. So fine tune each substance and each dose for the task at hand; like the inspired painter chooses the correct brush with the right ammount of paint.

I always thought about making a mirror room that makes the Infinity effect for tripping and meditation. Well in fact, that is the original reason for temples to be constructed, architecture designed for higher consciousness and devolpment supportive ecosystems.

@cistanche_enjoyer L-theanin does give a slight improvement to the experience, thanks for the advice. Appreciate it

@emil1234 I also miss the Awakening topics. Leo's talking human stuff. I wonder if his Awakening Breakthroughs have been stagnating lately. Or maybe he just reached a plateau before the next burst. Whatever, idk

@Aaron p One of the most surprising feelings of Awakenings is the coexistence of radical consciousness with an intrinsic awareness of "being home" Finally Awake, Finally at home, tears role down your eyes and a smile is drown in your face. Consciousness, Love, Truth, spontaneity, freedom, insanity, all my very own nature or should I say, God's own nature, God has liberated itself just to self-limit itself, this is God's Play!

I've come to appreciate Pure Dance more and more. Particularly after training, arriving home, put some good ass music and letting myself go is such a nice experience, almost liberating. I've come to realize this is going to stick with me for the rest of my life. If one day we meet all together I hope we put some music and show our secret pure dance flow.

Thanks for the honest answer Leo

Could we call it stage Green Capitalism?

This is what I found. It wasn't a Rolex afterall: https://www.osho.com/osho-online-library/osho-talks/nonsense-watches-diamonds-20917c7e-075?p=cdc01afdf2f923096810187b46256ad3 Btw, I'm remembered of this video Osho is really a genius A free man in a mad world

How antimainstream from your part Leo Maybe one can appreciate the beauty of a masterfully crafted watch? Rolex does make great watches, maybe overpriced sure So you can appreciate the beauty in african masks but not in a watch which serves a function and can be a portable piece of art. I think you're being biased here. I get your point but it's shallow imo. I say this as a biased watch lover