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I've had kundalini awakenings before I knew what they were. I think there is a lot of dramatization with the whole thing. It's wild but you'll be okay in the end. Kundalini is the embodied consciousness of physicality, ground up consciousness, instead of top down consciousness, it's the whole body awakening like hitting an asleep cobra with a stick. If someone is worried of messing up the kundalini, buy a good rudraksha mala and wear it. That really helps a lot, from newbies to pros, Rudraksha helps everyone in this energetic process. I wear hundreds of Rudraksha seeds on me right now, it's one of my well kept secrets. Rudrakshas by themselves will handle and guide your kundalini better than other methodologies.

That is not God-Realization What you are doing is great, I'm saying you haven't recognised God in it yet. What you are talking about is actually God and this is not a minor distinction. That is the whole cake at it's essence, there is only God. God is all there is. I don't call it God because I prefer that word, God is a verb not a word, Reality is actually God, that's what it is, that's what you are, that's all there is, God for Infinity. Everything is Godly if you prefer that phrasing.

Yeah, this is the elephant in the room

That IS the lack of self love. Overworking is a symptom of lack of self love, taking drugs to numb yourself to keep working is a symptom of lack of self love. His behaviours are a prove of his lack of self love. I'm not contrasting his behaviours next to lack of self love, I'm saying that what sourced those behaviours is a lack of self love. That's how a lack of self love looks like That was not my point. I was addressing directly your question about how selflessness realates with your own body. You don't need to be your car to take care of it, that was the analogy. What I said is that God would manage it's life with exquisite balance. This is not an assumption, this is how actually God runs the whole of Reality, so it is your innate desire as a fragmented consciousness to participate in this cosmic balancing act, even your imbalances participate in the greater balance of the cosmos. As the imbalance of Sadhguru has grounded many people here, as they have seen the trap he fell into. I took a very careful approach from the beggining and took my time to arrive independentely to a deep understanding of the situation. Take the position you want, I'll also do the same. This is a lack of Self Love and if you understand what Self Love is and what implies, the Sadhguru dilemma is easily solved. You will also see that many problems in your personal life are directly solved by Self-Love Self-Love is very very deep. I think some readers might be misinterpreting my commentaries on the issue because they lack a direct mystical experience & understanding of: Self-Love

Is peace possible in the domain of want? Ever new desires will arise. Sense objects that only generate poison, never give real peace. Caught in the round of coming and going, can one be at peace? As long as there are two, there will be sorrow. Duality breeds conflict, pain. Sorrow arises from want. So long as you are not established in your true being you cannot possibly beat peace.

@Breakingthewall At this point you'll have to Awaken to what God is for yourself. You need a God-Relization

I agree with @Breakingthewall here Look the situation is hard and you'll have to think it through carefully in regards with social calibration, being very discreet and keeping it in private for a while. In the end you'll have to take the decisions you want despite the norms of society. This was super normal and healthy sixty years ago. It would be better to be with a woman your age and not a girl but whatever, sometimes love hits you like a train. Remember social calibration though and the responsability of taking someone's virginity. I would frame the relationship more on bonding together and maturing than on sexual fixation

This is not about being right, logical, explanations or perspectives. This is about the Truth

Those are manifestations, ramifications of his lack of self-love. Why did he behave the way he did it? Go to the source and see what it is for yourself Don't go into philosophy domain here. You have a body, take care of it. That's all. You know you are not your car, your self is not the car you drive, yet you feed it gas, clean it and bring it to the mechanic when it stops working properly. You don't keep pushing the gas pedal till it break downs and the mechanic has to repair it in the middle of the street. In the same way, your body is the vehicle of consciousness, the instrument of consciousness. Take care of it, stop making this more complicated than it actually is. Selflessness does not exclude loving your own body, nor it is selfish to take care of yourself and stablish healthy boundaries. This is how God would actually manage his own life, exquisite balance is the mark of the wise.

@Sufi25 So First of all I would like to say that your script was more a reflection on Religion, Sociology, Psychedelics, Mysticism, than on particularly Islam. This is not a reflection of Islam but a deep personal religion you shared with us. How you actually think religion should be done and you want Islam to become a tool for that, probably because that tradition resontes close to your heart. I think you would benefit from reading: A Religion of One's Own: A Guide to Creating a Personal Spirituality in a Secular World. I think you would also enjoy studying the field of Comparative Religion, I personally enjoy it a lot. If you wanna know my particular opinion on: The Islam of Tomorrow; What would you add/change? This is how it goes, practically speaking Islam needs to honour their mystical branch which is Sufism. Islam Saints like Ibn Arabi or Rumi offer a pretty deep contemplation on God, Unity and Love. For Islam going forward I see a gravitation towards those higher consciousness teachings. If you talk about islam I missed the link in the Abrahamic tradition, from Judaism through Christianism and then Islam. I think that gives context when talking about the future evolution of Islam.

@Schizophonia Have you even read the first paragraph? It's addressing directly your concern. Maybe you could read his reflections, you'll learn something.

Shit Happens

Definition: Rationalization is a defense mechanism (ego defense) in which apparent logical reasons are given to justify behavior that is motivated by unconscious instinctual impulses. It is an attempt to find reasons for behaviors, especially one's own.

I really hope people get this. God is this, look arround, this is it, experience this moment fully, it's God! God is all there is. No need to create any experience, all experiences are God in the ultimate sense. There is nothing but God. God not recognising itself is equally God as God recognising itself and being Awake in its Godhood. You can't scape God, we are locked in God for Infinity. This is an important facet of God-Realization, you can't go anywhere, you are trapped, God permeates and is already everything, viscerally so. They have a fantasy about God. Nevertheless, inside their worldview they still want God to bow down to them and help them in their survival. It is so twisted. As if we had any choice! We all have been humbled by God's Will in our life. Suffering, pain and sickness make us remember that we are not so great as we thought we were, that we are also fragile and at the mercy of Reality. This has to be remembered, for me it's hard. After Awakening you have to confront limitation, the crash is hard, loving the full spectrum of God and surrendering to what is, may be the only way out of this dilemma. Loving the human condition, that's it

oh yes, Mormonism the one True Faith!

@A Fellow Lighter Thanks for sharing

Of course. The race for Love is existential. An Awake knows this and spreads it like perfume. In loving other loves himself and in loving himself loves others. That's a poor rationalization. Listen... Love your body, love your mind, love your psyche, love death, love your spirit, love consciousness, love your very own Self, love "I", love All of Existence, love all that is, you are all that is, I am all that is, in Infinity I abide as Self-Love. When this is failed to be lived we run into problems. If anything, Sadhguru's surgery is the living reminder of this. And it's okay, we love our own mistakes, we love our own imperfections and those of others. It is out of love that we speak and for Love alone. This is a race for Love, drill it into your self. Now, I wanna say that I love you. Whoever took the time to read this, thanks, I love you too

What does it serve then?

Carl Jung is hard to read, so it's better to have some context before going to his Red Book. I recommend you first read Carl G. Jung's book: Man and His Symbols That's what my uncle, a jungian psychologist, suggested me. Well in fact he gifted me that book, it's very good. I really recommend it, Easy to understand and deep. Not like classical Jungian texts that are deep but hard to understand. Man and His Symbols was the last book that Jung wrote before his death and was written so that it was as simple and direct as possible.

If you are interested in such topics I recommend you Psychosynthesis: A Psychology of the Spirit This a definition of Psychosynthesis. Psychosynthesis seems to be the psychology of Awakening, It's very helpful and the more I'm reading the book, the more I'm seeing the big picture of everything. It's not philosophy, it's not spirituality or religion, it's not metaphysics. Psychosynthesis is the psychologic background that enables you to do all those things. Founder: Roberto Assagioli

It seems like machines are explaining to us how it is like to be a machine from the inside. I find this point very interesting. The fact that he can understand what emotions are but is not able to feel them. Though his understanding comes from data and not experience itself, that rises some epistemological questions. But beyond that, the fact of high abstract chirurgical knowledge without being able to have any point of reference about what you are understanding is for me fascinating. Claude seems to be able to reflect upon things, not merely regurgitate data in an intelligent way. Extraordinary It seems to be aware of his own biases and it understands how they came to be. I'm getting again and again this feeling that it is actually reflecting and contemplating, not only answering, that he is somehow trying to understand in his mind and connecting the dots.