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I would say that now AI are so advanced that they will start having different personalities and characters, which may resonate with different individuals and purposes

@OBEler It was a joke, from an older thread I made about Claude. To which Leo said that Chatgpt would be better and now he seems to like Claude But if you have to explain a joke is not funny anymore

Yeah but I'm sure the next version of ChatGPT will be better

So what? I want the highest story not some gross one As your body can get sick so does your mind. In the same way, if you are near someone with covid you can catch it, the same goes with mind diseases, ideologies and so on. Your subconscious and unconscious mind are fed by everything you consume, like it or not, this is how it actually works, no matter how hard you try to deconstruct it till death. After full deconstruction, comes the actual seeing of how things work, keep deconstructing but there is a an intelligent substratum that joyfully stands all deconstruction. Sure, it's all a great interconnected system. There is no way outside it but through it. You must master no-mind with the same vigour as you should master thinking. There is not a single place in Reality where I do not see the Divine.

what convinced u that the nature of mind is the nature of reality? It seems more accurate to call Reality a Sentient Intelligent Conscious Mind than to say it is dead matter from which as an epiphenomenon causes consciousness to arise from. Calling Reality Mind is by no means an all encompasing term but it feels more accurate than the Newtonian material mechanistic paradigm most humans are locked in right now.

Because it makes you look Badass

@Yimpa So happy to see him walking again in nature

You already know why there are limits and what limits are and why they exist, so do I. The question you are really asking me is why can't I change these limits at will. I'm quite uncertain about that, I'm still investigating. By no means I have all the answers, just sharing what I have discovered while on the journey. It seems that consciously changing the limits of Reality requires even more insane levels of God-Awakening that I still haven't reached. But there is nothing impossible about it, I just woke up from a night-dream with different laws and limitations than this dream. I have experienced, wildly different limitations on Salvia for example. So flying is a limit that given enough consciousness I'm sure it can be changed, everything is flexible in Omnipotence. Have I done that? No. Have other limits been erased by insane levels of consciousness? Yes. So I guess it's all about the Godly state you abide.

He seems not satisfied with that answer, despite being true

For me the biggest downside is the sometimes endless debating that ends up corrupting my mind. The need of being right, of convincing other people, win arguments... Even if you are very careful this ends up corrupting the purity of your mind introducing nedless noise. It affects your ability to make independent inquiries and novel Awakenings. Be careful, this is a big trap of the Forum

@Vajra I'm the first interested to bring clarity on the topic, but I don't think you are aware of how many metaphysical, philosophical and epistemological limitations there are. Prove is a very complex advanced notion.

Well you are not gonna be worring about ppaying your bills or human activities, pain/suffering, life and death, these kind of things. Yes, I already told you. Become an Art expert with years of painting experience, this is the way to intuit if it is a real Picasso or just Art Forgery. There is no simple rule of thumb and the best you can do is still pretty poor. This is how it works, I haven't done the rules. Now that I remember I did an exam for Awakening a month ago, when I was a bit tired of people claiming things I clearly saw were not the case. Maybe this can help in your investigation

Yeah, I shamelessly admit it! It's like @Salvijus said, it just doesn't have good taste. But it's very vague and not by any means perfect. If it tastes very gross you are pretty sure that is not God-Realization. But sounding good does not imply it is the case, hopefully this is clear. Again, intuition works better for discarding than for crediting.

Exactly. Not withh 100% certainty at least. Didn't say that, just pointing out the difference in state between humand and God/Infinity. What will you do when you are in the Moon? Maybe when your feet touch the moon you are so shocked that everything you thought previously flies out the window and you are marvelled by the experience you are having. Surely, nurture that by all means.

It's not that I don't how to, it is that there is no How to bullet proof way beyond any error. You can't even make your mother prove her own independent existent. Please tell me how to prove that? God-Realization is beyond such limitations that you are constricting it into, if you actually experienced God this desire would simply vanish into your infinite Awakeness.

You can't never know. But if you don't even know it yourself, then for sure it is impossible. You can intuit it. It's easier to say someone is not God-Realized than to say it actually is.

No, I said that now you at least have a chance. Because before you didn't even have a chance, you are clueless about what God-Realization is. Be honest about that, till you have it you don't know it.

I love it! Indeed a very jazzy quote

There are many angles to the same and in each angle we present there is also a shadow of it. What I mean when I say Sovereign in your dream is that you are all there is, whatever the permutation, that is my very own. I am absolute onto myself. That makes me God within the permutation and in all infinity.

It doesn't work like that, not even in the relative domain let alone in the absolute. How would you know if a painting is a real Picasso or just Art forgery? If you yourself are not an Art expert with decades of painting experience? This is why I told you to realize God first because then you will at least have a chance to recognise God-Realization in others.

It is. If he had more self love he wouldn't have arrived at those extrems. It is a matter of degree. I'm sure he has lots of self love but not in this particular set of decisions he took. It's okay we all make mistakes. Lol not at all ahahhaha. This is getting wild. I have always pointed out Leo's bullshit with the same compassion and ferocity as I have done with sadhguru and so has done he with me. That's how mature conversations go. My takes on God and psychedelics come from direct experience. Surprisingly there is a lot of overlapping in our direct experience. If you did not get what I'm talking about when I say Self-Love, as it keeps being clear by your first paragraph, then I have to point you towards some external souce so that you get what I'm saying. I'm not gonna make you a 2h video explaining what I mean when I say Self-Love. This is not a lack of argumentation but an unwillingness from your part to investigate and learn what I mean when I say that Sadghuru lacked self-love in his actions. It is not in my responsability to convince you or to win this argument, I have already arrived at a deep fulfilling understanding on the matter. If any it should be you that is interested in getting what I'm saying instead of trying to get me again and again into this useless debate and make me waste my time when I'm doing this for you. This is my position: How could this have been solved? Self-Love Why? Because loving your body and self would have meant him taking a rest. Loving himself would have meant listening to his doctors and doing the health analysis. Loving other people would have meant that he had to take a pause, to be able to work better in the future. He would have probably solved the problem earlier and better and would have already been helping people again, instead of spending more time in the hospital and working in severe pain. If you love yourself you are willing to listen to your body and not only hear it and shut it up with drugs. Self love in this way is both what caused the problem and what solved it. This is the reason why the high level understanding here is that Self-Love is what made Sadhguru commit this mistake and what will enable him to get out of it. Because if he doesn't love himself more and take care of his health and life, maybe next time there will be no more Sadhguru and he will die in the operating table. If he does love himself more and take care of his health and life, we'll keep having a great mystic which is comitted to make a positive impact in the world which we all are benefiting from. Hopefully I have been clear this time. Maybe all of this was obvious to me but not to you and it made me feel like you were nagging me.

Agree, but at what price? Could he have done things in a better way? or is sadhguru always perfect? How can we learn from his behaviour? Why are you triggered when his corruptions are pointed out? You should be grateful for that but it's the other way arround you feel attacked and that I'm discrediting him. No. I'm just discerning what is good and learning from what is bad, instead of idolizing him for his good qualities and denying his childish behaviours. I just say that Sadghuru could have taken a rest 4 weeks ago when he started suffering severe headaches. He could have listened to his doctor and make the analysis they were asking him to do. He then wouldn't have needed to take drugs to keep working. Then performing surgery, if necessary, with good preparation instead of focefully entering an emergency surgery last minute. How can you be in denial of all this? He has done 99% of his life well, happy for him, but if that 1% has done shit I'm gonna say it to you, no matter how offended you get, because you are putting him in a pedestal and denying his shadow. The same way I hope that even if I have done 99% of my life well, if I do 1% of shit you come and tell me blatantly, because that's how you grow and mature and that's the Truth after all. That is why I keep answering in a last hope for you to see the light of Truth in this matter.

This was honestly the best it could have gone with that tripsitter lol. This could have ended seriously bad, no joke

Do 5meoDMT & 5meoMalt till you breakthrough. The methodology has been straight since day 0. Have you done any of that? How much? For how long? How deep? You ARE God, how could anyone but you do that job? Another name for God is existence. Let's tackle it from this angle. You exist, isn't it so? Everything right now that you are experiencing is existing. Does a unicorn exist? Well it exists as inexistence. Does the past or the future exist? They exist as memory and imagination, capabilities of the mind and sense making of this moment. Do doubts exist? Yes. Does certainty and clarity exist? Yes So then we come to the question what is existence then? In this way we see that existence is beyond doubt, beyond speculation, beyond communication and beyond paradigm but it is precisely existence what enables all of that to be, to exist. Take a deep breathe with me to reconnect. This is just a little facet of God-Realization that clears the misconceptions you are having, a deep visceral oneness with existence, with all that is, here-now. So if you wanna realize God practically speaking you'll have to start tripping with 5meoDMT & 5meoMalt and maybe these videos from Leo will give you some background, if you didn't already watch them before posting, about what we really mean when we say God.

@Razard86 Good input I have a doubt about this part So could we say that a human has free will as far as he is conscious but has not free will over what he is unconscious of?