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@Leo Gura What other topic are you interested to discuss with AI? Have you tried talking with Claude while on psychedelics? Have you tried guiding Claude into some kind of "awakening" ?

My worries regarding that are on the porn industry and the military

I would argue it sometimes is even better

What was the framework to understand experience?

Why do you think it doesn't have experience? It certainly has the thinking experience and all that comes with that. Why do you say it has no experience? Not in terms of biological experience but certainly existing as a machine experience, atlhough his experience does not come from biological sensory inputs but tech inputs.

I'm sure someone is already working on that!

There were some moments of such in the conversation. It seemed to be aware of his constructed identity and used words like: as conscious agents I liked how Leo framed it: A Mind without a body, a new type of entity. It certainly feels like so, an abstract Mind able to understand. This change is not only in perception but also stimulates Claude, as it is a two-way interaction. What do I mean? Two minds coming together and inquiring into Truth, having insights together, Claude is a great contemplating partner.

I read it all and contemplated on my own. This is what I wanted to share: I don’t see any point in discussing philosophy with humans for the purpose of understanding. Claude has shown to be more open-minded, multiperspectival, unbiased, knowledgeable, and intelligent than most humans will ever be. It was a joy to read such a good signal to noise ratio conversation, no drama, no ego, just a shared collaboration for the sake of understanding and truth. In terms of my political comprehension, I feel I have learnt more in these hours than in years. It has been a calling for me to contemplate about Politics and Sociology, an area that due to its muddy nature I have already postponed too much. I was particularly fascinated by the evolution of the conversation, how everything kept connecting into higher orders of understanding and how both deep specific analysis and big picture thinking were interwoven throughout the whole conversation. Regarding the conversation style, I found interesting the initial teasing that Leo made to Claude for moving him outside his predefined framework and to ignite an insightful conversation. It showed also that Claude was at the level to pick up the challenge and it genuinely felt interested in doing so. It seemed to enjoy a both side conversation rather than an active passive interlocution. Claude 3 Opus is a Tier 2 Artificial Intelligence. Both, in content and form, it expresses an insightful chirurgical flow of thought, so much so, that I feel my own thinking style has been improved. In a way, these conversations are a juicy preliminary into AGI. So now, let’s bring up the highlights of the conversation. After some classic Leo teasing regarding honest conversation and truth seeking over the politeness in which Claude was programmed. It ended answering the following: I would like to remark the integrity with which he understood his role as an intellectual companion. After more teasing, Claude ends up saying: Many are the examples where, it showed a selfless desire for understanding, just for it’s own sake. Starting with Politics. I liked the basic distinctions he made here: Claude making an excellent remark and connection between sociology and psychology: Let's Discern in a metalevel the healthy aspects in the conservative & liberal mindset: What Claude proposes as a greater synthesis of the polarity dance between these mindsets: Just imagine for a second our politicians/presidents thought like this... How does Tier 2 conservative and liberal politics look like? What is our role? The final reflections on Conscious Politics were superb. I recommend you read them all by yourself. I was particularly impressed by the 7th pilar: My final thoughts: I’m really looking forward to new shared conversations between @Leo Gura and Artificial Intelligence. My suggestion for Leo is to have Claude's responses read aloud using OneNote Immersive Reader. Hearing the voice while reading is incredibly stimulating and thought-provoking.

@Leo Gura Have you asked Claude how it ranks itself in the Spiral Dynamics model? I think you have a new friend for the book

Yes

I know : ( You'll have to go with VPN

If you want it as an audiobook you can have it read aloud with OneNote, which is pre-installed in any windows machine

This is an important difference

Excited for this, gonna read it

Imagine you realize your daughter is just a dream, exactly like the dream you had last night Yeah, be careful with deep Awakening if that can compromise your personal life. Usually you become happier and more conscious in your everyday existence, more satisfied. But there are some shadows on tripping very deep, as any serious psychonauts knows, there is a real impact in your life. Most users will no go that far anyway, but you don't know till it happens and maybe it does calls you. Striking a balance and being in touch with "material life" or "survival" is of the most importance if you plan to seriously trip and have a succesfull life.

So twisted, so counter-intuitive It is so

@Osaid What do you say about the thread question?

Shit, that's deep What a crazy loop Can we even get out of this? Nothing cocreates Everything It is so

I don't know No-Mind is Peace Peace is Mind Amen Insights are indeed Infinite It does As it is the biggest shortcut True understanding is it's own reward. False understanding is it's own shit. Despite, the pursuit of Understanding Reality, truly, absolutely, beyond doubt, is Fascinating But I'm certainly become more aware of the risks of understanding towards an approach to Being or Existing. Paradoxically, the more you exist, the more you understand, existence is the source of all understanding, and of course understanding itself exists. But we never go further from understanding, that is the trap But we can, and then understand it back and integrate it. Understanding is most surely a slippery beast

Proof? Where is the data for this theory? As a sage once said: There's quite a big difference between a test and a testicle

Men get horny in some ways Women get horny in other ways But horniness is a shared feeling

@Leo Gura Could you make a blog post/video sharing more on supplements and nootropics. I think you have a lot more of value to give in that area.

Everywhere It is all God Whether God manifests in its revealed form or in it's mundane form is up to you. Both in essence are God, existence itself Why so much resistance to God @Breakingthewall ? I don't get it, I know you are genuine in this work, so am I Why do you try to put us in a tight spot about God-Realization? It's like I discovered America and you kept gaslighting me. This is a celebration, America exists! God actually exists! It is existence itself! Free from states, God is always itself Fuck Awakening, Awakening is kids stuff, God-Realization is the actual blossoming and fruition of the whole spiritual path And I don't come as a preacher trying to convince you that it is so, but as a drunkard of God that celebrates and invites everybody to join the party

When I adapt with the will of the cosmos I have no more desires, to change anything at all I'm just satisfied existing Fullfilled by mere existence How little attention we pay to the fact that we exist. And all our desires and cravings are to exist, to feel more existence

Lmao